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US Army Prepares for SHTF in the States

Unread postby seahorse » Wed 17 Sep 2008, 19:43:54

Many may remember that after 9-11, the United States started a new military command call "Northcom" which means a military command dedicated to military operations in North America. Of course, many have argued that such a command would be violative of laws prohibiting the use of active duty forces as a police force on US soil, but the Military Commissions Act and Patriot Act probably did away with those arguments.

Many have argued that the creation of Northcom and the passages of the Military Commissions Act, the Patriot Act and other laws, like wiretapping etc., were preludes to martial law.

Where am I going with this? The Army Times is reporting the Army is dedicating a "BCT" Brigage Combat Team is dedicated now to Northcom's mission for North American operations.
Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1. 3rd Infantry’s 1st BCT trains for a new dwell-time mission. Helping ‘people at home’ may become a permanent part of the active Army By Gina Cavallaro - Staff writer Monday Sep 8, 2008 6:15:06 EDT:
The 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team has spent 35 of the last 60 months in Iraq patrolling in full battle rattle, helping restore essential services and escorting supply convoys. Now they’re training for the same mission — with a twist — at home.

Beginning Oct. 1 for 12 months, the 1st BCT will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command, as an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks.

It is not the first time an active-duty unit has been tapped to help at home. In August 2005, for example, when Hurricane Katrina unleashed hell in Mississippi and Louisiana, several active-duty units were pulled from various posts and mobilized to those areas.

But this new mission marks the first time an active unit has been given a dedicated assignment to NorthCom, a joint command established in 2002 to provide command and control for federal homeland defense efforts and coordinate defense support of civil authorities.

After 1st BCT finishes its dwell-time mission, expectations are that another, as yet unnamed, active-duty brigade will take over and that the mission will be a permanent one.

“Right now, the response force requirement will be an enduring mission. How the [Defense Department] chooses to source that and whether or not they continue to assign them to NorthCom, that could change in the future,” said Army Col. Louis Vogler, chief of NorthCom future operations. “Now, the plan is to assign a force every year.”

The command is at Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado Springs, Colo., but the soldiers with 1st BCT, who returned in April after 15 months in Iraq, will operate out of their home post at Fort Stewart, Ga., where they’ll be able to go to school, spend time with their families and train for their new homeland mission as well as the counterinsurgency mission in the war zones.

Stop-loss will not be in effect, so soldiers will be able to leave the Army or move to new assignments during the mission, and the operational tempo will be variable.

Don’t look for any extra time off, though. The at-home mission does not take the place of scheduled combat-zone deployments and will take place during the so-called dwell time a unit gets to reset and regenerate after a deployment.

The 1st of the 3rd is still scheduled to deploy to either Iraq or Afghanistan in early 2010, which means the soldiers will have been home a minimum of 20 months by the time they ship out. In the meantime, they’ll learn new skills, use some of the ones they acquired in the war zone and more than likely will not be shot at while doing any of it.

They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack.

Training for homeland scenarios has already begun at Fort Stewart and includes specialty tasks such as knowing how to use the “jaws of life” to extract a person from a mangled vehicle; extra medical training for a CBRNE incident; and working with U.S. Forestry Service experts on how to go in with chainsaws and cut and clear trees to clear a road or area.

The 1st BCT’s soldiers also will learn how to use “the first ever nonlethal package that the Army has fielded,” 1st BCT commander Col. Roger Cloutier said, referring to crowd and traffic control equipment and nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them.

“It’s a new modular package of nonlethal capabilities that they’re fielding. They’ve been using pieces of it in Iraq, but this is the first time that these modules were consolidated and this package fielded, and because of this mission we’re undertaking we were the first to get it.”

The package includes equipment to stand up a hasty road block; spike strips for slowing, stopping or controlling traffic; shields and batons; and, beanbag bullets.

“I was the first guy in the brigade to get Tasered,” said Cloutier, describing the experience as “your worst muscle cramp ever — times 10 throughout your whole body. “I’m not a small guy, I weigh 230 pounds ... it put me on my knees in seconds.”

The brigade will not change its name, but the force will be known for the next year as a CBRNE Consequence Management Response Force, or CCMRF (pronounced “sea-smurf”).

“I can’t think of a more noble mission than this,” said Cloutier, who took command in July. “We’ve been all over the world during this time of conflict, but now our mission is to take care of citizens at home ... and depending on where an event occurred, you’re going home to take care of your home town, your loved ones.”

While soldiers’ combat training is applicable, he said, some nuances don’t apply. “If we go in, we’re going in to help American citizens on American soil, to save lives, provide critical life support, help clear debris, restore normalcy and support whatever local agencies need us to do, so it’s kind of a different role,” said Cloutier, who, as the division operations officer on the last rotation, learned of the homeland mission a few months ago while they were still in Iraq.

Some brigade elements will be on call around the clock, during which time they’ll do their regular marksmanship, gunnery and other deployment training. That’s because the unit will continue to train and reset for the next deployment, even as it serves in its CCMRF mission.

Should personnel be needed at an earthquake in California, for example, all or part of the brigade could be scrambled there, depending on the extent of the need and the specialties involved.

Other branches included:
The active Army’s new dwell-time mission is part of a NorthCom and DOD response package.

Active-duty soldiers will be part of a force that includes elements from other military branches and dedicated National Guard Weapons of Mass Destruction-Civil Support Teams.

A final mission rehearsal exercise is scheduled for mid-September at Fort Stewart and will be run by Joint Task Force Civil Support, a unit based out of Fort Monroe, Va., that will coordinate and evaluate the interservice event.

In addition to 1st BCT, other Army units will take part in the two-week training exercise, including elements of the 1st Medical Brigade out of Fort Hood, Texas, and the 82nd Combat Aviation Brigade from Fort Bragg, N.C.

There also will be Air Force engineer and medical units, the Marine Corps Chemical, Biological Initial Reaction Force, a Navy weather team and members of the Defense Logistics Agency and the Defense Threat Reduction Agency.

One of the things Vogler said they’ll be looking at is communications capabilities between the services. “It is a concern, and we’re trying to check that and one of the ways we do that is by having these sorts of exercises. Leading up to this, we are going to rehearse and set up some of the communications systems to make sure we have interoperability,” he said.

“I don’t know what America’s overall plan is — I just know that 24 hours a day, seven days a week, there are soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines that are standing by to come and help if they’re called,” Cloutier said. “It makes me feel good as an American to know that my country has dedicated a force to come in and help the people at home.”
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Re: US Army Prepares for SHTF in the States

Unread postby Dreamtwister » Wed 17 Sep 2008, 19:58:46

I hope the implications of putting combat-hardened troops on home soil is not lost on anyone.
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Re: US Army Prepares for SHTF in the States

Unread postby Cloud9 » Wed 17 Sep 2008, 20:02:45

Caesar has crossed the Rubicon.
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Re: US Army Prepares for SHTF in the States

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Wed 17 Sep 2008, 20:10:33

The 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team has spent 35 of the last 60 months in Iraq patrolling in full battle rattle. Now they’re training for the same mission — with a twist — at home.

Kinda says it all. Welcome to Iraq. Your papers please.
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Re: US Army Prepares for SHTF in the States

Unread postby messageinabottle » Wed 17 Sep 2008, 20:18:57

smallpoxgirl wrote:
The 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team has spent 35 of the last 60 months in Iraq patrolling in full battle rattle. Now they’re training for the same mission — with a twist — at home.
Kinda says it all. Welcome to Iraq. Your papers please.

Wow... This really is the end. I bet Google will be the brains of the whole electronic control operation new world order. GJail
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Re: US Army Prepares for SHTF in the States

Unread postby Armageddon » Wed 17 Sep 2008, 20:55:40

Yet people will deny the NWO exists. What is happening has been planned for many years. The Central Banking Cartel are the ones behind this. You are their slave. Global governance is almost here: link
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Re: US Army Prepares for SHTF in the States

Unread postby gollum » Wed 17 Sep 2008, 20:59:53

Might be nice to have some 2 legged critters to shoot at?
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Re: US Army Prepares for SHTF in the States

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Re: US Army Prepares for SHTF in the States

Unread postby Dreamtwister » Wed 17 Sep 2008, 21:10:12

I'm wondering how long it will be before someone comes to this thread and attempts to convince people this is somehow NOT a declaration of permanent martial law.
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Re: US Army Prepares for SHTF in the States

Unread postby roccman » Wed 17 Sep 2008, 21:58:23

Again... A tale of a 47 story building makes all of this very crystal clar.
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Re: US Army Prepares for SHTF in the States

Unread postby kpeavey » Wed 17 Sep 2008, 21:59:55

Are you certain the article reads BRIGADE and not BRIGAND?
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Re: US Army Prepares for SHTF in the States

Unread postby SILENTTODD » Wed 17 Sep 2008, 22:05:14

We don't have an Army BIG enough at this moment to begin to occupy this country under force of arms, let alone Iraq right now.

Last I read the active Army is less than 500,000. The Air Force was bigger than that 32 years ago when I was in it. The Army during the 1970's was about a 1 1/2 million at that time after Vietnam. You would have to abandon all other postings around the world at this moment to even make a start at this.
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Re: US Army Prepares for SHTF in the States

Unread postby seahorse » Wed 17 Sep 2008, 22:27:15

JD, Tinfoil? This is reported in the Army Times which also states the move is unprecedented. If you don't understand the unit activated or the context, then, you can't possibly understand the significance of this unprecedented move.

My observations are based on my previous experience as an S1 officer in the Oklahoma's 45th Infantry Brigade. I can only say that experience and understanding of how the guard brigades interface with the active component tells me this is a significant move, not taken lightly by Pentagon planners.

Here's what's interesting to me:
(1) The mission was assigned to an active BCT, not a guard BCT. This is an unprecedented assignment of an active brigade to missions relegated to US soil. "Civil service" missions have been the historic mission of the national guards, so why the unexplained change? In fact, most are probably unaware that all guards have two simultaneous missions, civil support missions in answer to their states and simultaneous assignments in support of an active duty unit under the Pentagon's force structure. For example, when I was in the Arkansas 39th Brigade, we were assigned to the 24th Infantry Division in Georgia. When I was assigned to Oklahoma's 45th Brigade, we were assigned to the 7th Infantry Division in Colorado.

(2) For the Pentagon to assign this mission to an active unit as opposed to a guard unit, it indicates a hightened level of priority to the mission. In the last 4 years, the Army has struggled meeting the high tempo requirements of rotating units to assignments in Iraq and Afghanistan. They have struggled with keeping units in readiness and filling the rotational requirements. In fact, the tempo has been so high the active component has supplemented their needs with guard units since the war began. So, taking an active BCT out of that two war rotation is significant.

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Re: US Army Prepares for SHTF in the States

Unread postby Ferretlover » Wed 17 Sep 2008, 23:04:36

A few threads that may be of interest regarding this topic:

“Canada can send troops into US in case of civil emergency”

San Fran Chronicle Acknowledges ENDGAME By Homeland Security

Presidential Signing Statements/Executive Orders

NWO Secret Meeting Exposed Martial Law Plan Leaked 2008 #1

The Martial Law Thread (merged)

Of special interest is the Executive Order where Bush can declare martial law in the case of national financial crisis.

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Re: US Army Prepares for SHTF in the States

Unread postby dinopello » Wed 17 Sep 2008, 23:40:32

Ferretlover wrote:Of special interest is the Executive Order where Bush can declare martial law in the case of national financial crisis.


But, what's the chance of that happening :roll: 8O
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Re: US Army Prepares for SHTF in the States

Unread postby FreedomSlave » Wed 17 Sep 2008, 23:50:20

See, we have evidence of the intended deployment in an area of operations, but not of the scale or purpose of the intended "operation".

Why assume national scope for the deployment of an obviously insufficient number of troops to do that kind of job? Wouldn't it make more sense that a more localized deployment may be anticipated? Say, as in after a large scale "terrorist" event in one or two of our cities? It would be mighty convenient to have set up just such a command, sort of like the "Tripod" and numerous "Vigilant" exercises that occurred on the same day as another such "event"...

I don't know what the intention is, but I know it cannot be good considering our overextended positions/deployments/troop depletions in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Re: US Army Prepares for SHTF in the States

Unread postby threadbear » Wed 17 Sep 2008, 23:58:55

messageinabottle wrote:Wow... This really is the end. I bet Google will be the brains of the whole electronic control operation new world order. GJail

GJail! :lol: :lol:
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Re: US Army Prepares for SHTF in the States

Unread postby Roy » Thu 18 Sep 2008, 09:58:13

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Re: US Army Prepares for SHTF in the States

Unread postby vision-master » Thu 18 Sep 2008, 10:26:32

Welcome to 28th of July 1932. :razz: Nothing new here.
Bonus Army The self-named Bonus Expeditionary Force was an assemblage of some 43,000 marchers — 17,000 World War I veterans, their families, and affiliated groups, who protested in Washington, D.C., in spring and summer of 1932. Called the Bonus March by the news media, the Bonus Marchers were more popularly known as the Bonus Army. The war veterans sought immediate, cash payment of Service Certificates granted them eight years earlier via the Adjusted Service Certificate Law of 1924. Each Service Certificate, issued to a qualified veteran soldier, bore a face value equal to the soldier's promised payment, plus compound interest. The problem was that the certificates (like bonds), matured twenty years from the date of original issuance, thus, under extant law, the Service Certificates were un-redeemable until 1945.

The U.S. Army intervenes On the 28th of July 1932, Attorney General Mitchell ordered the police evacuation of the Bonus Army veterans, who resisted; the police shot at them, and killed two. When told of the killings, President Hoover ordered the U.S. Army to effect the evacuation of the Bonus Army from Washington, D.C.

At 4:45 p.m., commanded by Gen. Douglas MacArthur, the 12th Infantry Regiment, Fort Howard, Maryland, and the 3rd Cavalry Regiment, supported with six battle tanks commanded by Maj. George S. Patton, Fort Myer, Virginia, formed in Pennsylvania Avenue while thousands of Civil Service employees left work to line the street and watch the U.S. Army attack its own veterans. The Bonus Marchers, believing the display was in their honour, cheered the troops until Maj. Patton charged the cavalry against them — to which action the Civil Service employee spectators yelled: "Shame! Shame!" against the charging cavalry.

After the cavalry charge, infantry, with fixed bayonets and adamsite gas, entered the Bonus Army camps, evicting veterans, families, and camp followers. The veterans fled across the Anacostia River, to their largest camp; President Hoover ordered the Army assault stopped, however, Gen. MacArthur—feeling this free-speech exercise was a Communist attempt at overthrowing the U.S. Government—ignored the President and re-attacked. Hundreds of veterans were injured, several were killed — including William Hushka and Eric Carlson; a veteran's wife miscarried; and many other veterans were hurt. The sight of armed U.S. Army soldiers attacking poor American veterans of the recent Great War later prompted formal veteran relief funds, and, eventually, establishment of the Veterans Administration. As member of Gen. MacArthur's staff, Maj. Dwight D. Eisenhower had strong reservations about routing the anti-Bonus Army.

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Re: US Army Prepares for SHTF in the States

Unread postby Ferretlover » Thu 18 Sep 2008, 10:46:23

JohnDenver, you'd better hang on to that aluminum foil-you are going to need it when you go to work in the camp kitchen! :lol:
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