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Unread postby Roccland » Wed 01 Oct 2008, 21:21:22

TARP Passes Senate 74-25 Got bunker?
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Re: TARP Passes Senate 74-25

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Wed 01 Oct 2008, 21:23:13

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Re: TARP Passes Senate 74-25

Unread postby joeltrout » Wed 01 Oct 2008, 21:24:10

I think you jumped the gun. Aren't they voting right now.

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Re: TARP Passes Senate 74-25

Unread postby Roccland » Wed 01 Oct 2008, 21:24:10

Voted no:
Allard, Wayne
Brownback, Sam
Bunning, Jim
Cantwell, Maria
Cochran, Thad
Crapo, Mike
DeMint, Jim
Dole, Elizabeth
Dorgan, Byron
Enzi, Mike
Feingold, Russ
Inhofe, Jim
Johnson, Tim
Landrieu, Mary
Nelson, Bill
Roberts, Pat
Sanders, Bernie
Sessions, Jeff
Shelby, Richard
Stabenow, Debbie
Tester, Jon
Vitter, David
Wicker, Roger
Wyden, Ron


Voted yes:
Akaka, Daniel
Alexander, Lamar
Barrasso, John
Baucus, Max
Bayh, Evan
Bennett, Robert
Biden, Joe
Bingaman, Jeff
Bond, Kit
Boxer, Barbara
Brown, Sherrod
Burr, Richard
Byrd, Robert
Cardin, Ben
Carper, Tom
Casey, Bob, Jr.
Chambliss, Saxby
Clinton, Hillary Rodham
Coburn, Tom
Coleman, Norm
Collins, Susan
Conrad, Kent
Corker, Bob
Cornyn, John
Craig, Larry
Dodd, Chris
Domenici, Pete
Durbin, Dick
Ensign, John
Feinstein, Dianne
Graham, Lindsey
Harkin, Tom
Hatch, Orrin
Hutchison, Kay Bailey
Inouye, Daniel
Isakson, Johnny
Kerry, John
Klobuchar, Amy
Kohl, Herb
Kyl, Jon
Lautenberg, Frank
Leahy, Patrick
Levin, Carl
Lieberman, Joe
Lincoln, Blanche
Lugar, Dick
Martinez, Mel
McCain, John
McCaskill, Claire
McConnell, Mitch
Menendez, Bob
Mikulski, Barbara
Murkowski, Lisa
Murray, Patty
Nelson, Ben
Obama, Barack
Pryor, Mark
Reed, Jack
Reid, Harry
Rockefeller, Jay
Salazar, Ken
Schumer, Chuck
Smith, Gordon
Snowe, Olympia
Specter, Arlen
Stevens, Ted
Sununu, John E.
Thune, John
Voinovich, George
Warner, John
Webb, Jim
Whitehouse, Sheldon
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Re: TARP Passes Senate 74-25

Unread postby jbrovont » Wed 01 Oct 2008, 21:27:07

linky?
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Re: TARP Passes Senate 74-25

Unread postby Roccland » Wed 01 Oct 2008, 21:27:30

jbrovont wrote:linky?


I was there.
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Re: TARP Passes Senate 74-25

Unread postby RdSnt » Wed 01 Oct 2008, 21:27:52

It's on C-span
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Re: TARP Passes Senate 74-25

Unread postby Prince » Wed 01 Oct 2008, 21:28:43

I read that some of the confidence was put in play to Joe American due to the FDIC increase from $100k to $250k.

Are people really this f-ing stupid? How many average Americans have $100k, much less $250k in the bank? I'm going to guess damn near nobody. The increase only helps the corrupt bastards that started this mess.
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Re: TARP Passes Senate 74-25

Unread postby ohcomeon » Wed 01 Oct 2008, 21:29:23

Roccland wrote:Voted no:
Allard, Wayne
Brownback, Sam
Bunning, Jim
Cantwell, Maria
Cochran, Thad
Crapo, Mike
DeMint, Jim
Dole, Elizabeth
Dorgan, Byron
Enzi, Mike
Feingold, Russ
Inhofe, Jim
Johnson, Tim
Landrieu, Mary
Nelson, Bill
Roberts, Pat
Sanders, Bernie
Sessions, Jeff
Shelby, Richard
Stabenow, Debbie
Tester, Jon
Vitter, David
Wicker, Roger
Wyden, Ron


Voted yes:
Akaka, Daniel
Alexander, Lamar
Barrasso, John
Baucus, Max
Bayh, Evan
Bennett, Robert
Biden, Joe
Bingaman, Jeff
Bond, Kit
Boxer, Barbara
Brown, Sherrod
Burr, Richard
Byrd, Robert
Cardin, Ben
Carper, Tom
Casey, Bob, Jr.
Chambliss, Saxby
Clinton, Hillary Rodham
Coburn, Tom
Coleman, Norm
Collins, Susan
Conrad, Kent
Corker, Bob
Cornyn, John
Craig, Larry
Dodd, Chris
Domenici, Pete
Durbin, Dick
Ensign, John
Feinstein, Dianne
Graham, Lindsey
Harkin, Tom
Hatch, Orrin
Hutchison, Kay Bailey
Inouye, Daniel
Isakson, Johnny
Kerry, John
Klobuchar, Amy
Kohl, Herb
Kyl, Jon
Lautenberg, Frank
Leahy, Patrick
Levin, Carl
Lieberman, Joe
Lincoln, Blanche
Lugar, Dick
Martinez, Mel
McCain, John
McCaskill, Claire
McConnell, Mitch
Menendez, Bob
Mikulski, Barbara
Murkowski, Lisa
Murray, Patty
Nelson, Ben
Obama, Barack
Pryor, Mark
Reed, Jack
Reid, Harry
Rockefeller, Jay
Salazar, Ken
Schumer, Chuck
Smith, Gordon
Snowe, Olympia
Specter, Arlen
Stevens, Ted
Sununu, John E.
Thune, John
Voinovich, George
Warner, John
Webb, Jim
Whitehouse, Sheldon


Thanks, Rocc.

I see the NC senators split a yes and a no. I contacted both... I can't believe this just happened. Now on to start on the representatives again...

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Re: TARP Passes Senate 74-25

Unread postby Roccland » Wed 01 Oct 2008, 21:30:00

Here's the kicker...

Tax relief for solar/wind projects was also approved.

So what's it gonna be boyz?
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Re: TARP Passes Senate 74-25

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Wed 01 Oct 2008, 21:34:28

Roccland wrote:So what's it gonna be boyz?

"The course of action I'd suggest is a course of action I can't suggest."

Why do we allow ourselves to be ruled by this collection of walking toilet bowl scum?
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Re: TARP Passes Senate 74-25

Unread postby MarkL » Wed 01 Oct 2008, 21:36:37

My senators were split also. Dole is up for re-election. I'm sure it's the only reason she voted for it.

I've had very good luck phoning my congresscritters. I generally get through after a couple of rings and stay on hold for no more than a couple of minutes. I even got through on Obama's phone...

Kill the bill. Call your reps.
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Re: TARP Passes Senate 74-25

Unread postby joeltrout » Wed 01 Oct 2008, 21:36:44

Roccland wrote:Here's the kicker...

Tax relief for solar/wind projects was also approved.

So what's it gonna be boyz?


Are po members going to flip flop now?

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Re: TARP Passes Senate 74-25

Unread postby Roccland » Wed 01 Oct 2008, 21:37:23

smallpoxgirl wrote:
Roccland wrote:So what's it gonna be boyz?

"The course of action I'd suggest is a course of action I can't suggest."

Why do we allow ourselves to be ruled by this collection of walking toilet bowl scum?


Futs are down...

Bad sushi...

Wonder if they can have another vote to save the economy?
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Re: TARP Passes Senate 74-25

Unread postby RedStateGreen » Wed 01 Oct 2008, 21:40:11

This is the new version of the bailout bill? Does anyone have a link to the new text?
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Re: TARP Passes Senate 74-25

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Wed 01 Oct 2008, 21:42:12

RedStateGreen wrote:This is the new version of the bailout bill? Does anyone have a link to the new text?

http://www.cspan.org/pdf/hr1424_100108.pdf
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Re: TARP Passes Senate 74-25

Unread postby hope_full » Wed 01 Oct 2008, 21:47:45

I spent a not-insignificant amount of time today, calling and emailing the Senators (Webb and Warner) and posting things on internet boards and blogs and begging people to contact their senators.

I think this is pretty damn sneaky to try it in the house and then move it into the senate. TBS (toilet bowl scum) is a good description.

How *dare* they add $700 billion of debt to my taxes. I'm outraged beyond all words. I'm just too disgusted to even express my outrage. Un-frickin'-believable.

As to the FDIC limits, I agree that 99.5% of Americans have less than $100,000 cash in the bank. If these idiot senators really think that Americans care that the FDIC limits were raised, then they really are completely out of touch with the world.

I think this is a dark day for America. We've been sold into serfdom. We're bearing witness to one of the greatest wealth distribution schemes in the history of the world. They've robbed from the poor (and middle class) to give to the wealthy.

Shameful. Just shameful.
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Re: TARP Passes Senate 74-25

Unread postby ohcomeon » Wed 01 Oct 2008, 21:49:24

MarkL wrote:My senators were split also. Dole is up for re-election. I'm sure it's the only reason she voted for it.

I've had very good luck phoning my congresscritters. I generally get through after a couple of rings and stay on hold for no more than a couple of minutes. I even got through on Obama's phone...

Kill the bill. Call your reps.


Dole voted no... Burr voted yes...
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Re: TARP Passes Senate 74-25

Unread postby nobodypanic » Wed 01 Oct 2008, 21:54:09

hope_full wrote:I spent a not-insignificant amount of time today, calling and emailing the Senators (Webb and Warner) and posting things on internet boards and blogs and begging people to contact their senators.

I think this is pretty damn sneaky to try it in the house and then move it into the senate. TBS (toilet bowl scum) is a good description.

How *dare* they add $700 billion of debt to my taxes. I'm outraged beyond all words. I'm just too disgusted to even express my outrage. Un-frickin'-believable.

As to the FDIC limits, I agree that 99.5% of Americans have less than $100,000 cash in the bank. If these idiot senators really think that Americans care that the FDIC limits were raised, then they really are completely out of touch with the world.

I think this is a dark day for America. We've been sold into serfdom. We're bearing witness to one of the greatest wealth distribution schemes in the history of the world. They've robbed from the poor (and middle class) to give to the wealthy.

Shameful. Just shameful.

what are you worried about? you'll never pay for much of this at all; heck, you might never pay one red cent. it's impossible to collect taxes from the homeless, unemployed, and the indigent, and in a few months, that's what most of us will be anyway. :P
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Re: TARP Passes Senate 74-25

Unread postby MarkL » Wed 01 Oct 2008, 21:58:29

ohcomeon wrote:
MarkL wrote:My senators were split also. Dole is up for re-election. I'm sure it's the only reason she voted for it.

I've had very good luck phoning my congresscritters. I generally get through after a couple of rings and stay on hold for no more than a couple of minutes. I even got through on Obama's phone...

Kill the bill. Call your reps.


Dole voted no... Burr voted yes...


Oops :oops: I knew that. She voted for defeating it :)
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