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Lights out 2009 - new study

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Lights out 2009 - new study

Unread postby Roccland » Fri 03 Oct 2008, 22:08:37

For the record I called this one in the five ring too... PDF warning! 30 pages

I also called that the National Environmental Policy Act would be gutted under 40CFR1506.11...to get energy projects built. This report is a precursor to that happening.

...hey we just spent 700 billion of your money...why not kick the birds and bunnies out of their nest too.
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Re: Lights out 2009 - new study

Unread postby JustaGirl » Sat 04 Oct 2008, 02:26:19

Woo, that was a long read. So environmentalist are the problem & renewables will never work. Got it.
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Re: Lights out 2009 - new study

Unread postby Sys1 » Sat 04 Oct 2008, 17:05:50

We are heading back again to caverns. This article should be put in Olduvai thread.
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Re: Lights out 2009 - new study

Unread postby DaleFromCalgary » Sun 05 Oct 2008, 15:06:02

"In the West, activist groups are pressuring government regulators to limit access to the region’s high voltage transmission grid to large
baseload technologies such as coal. They propose favoring non-baseload, intermittent power facilities such as wind and solar, which will decrease the stability and reliability of the entire Western grid."

This is something which seems to be sneaking under the radar in Alberta, not the actual energy source, but the transmission thereof. Oil pipelines are actually relatively easy to put through, but the the real NIMBY problems are with our powerlines, especially along the Highway 2 corridor (Alberta's main north-south route). Wind energy is developing rapidly in southwestern Alberta, and that energy will need to flow somewhere as well. It can't go along the Rocky Mountain foothills because of objections from the petro-executives who own acreages, ranchers, and environmentalists. And that's just for the private land; most of the mountains are parks or Crown land wilderness. So that leaves Highway 2.
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