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Credit crunch impacts on production

Unread postby TheDude » Fri 24 Oct 2008, 08:44:50

Any and all stories on supply being impacted by tightening credit. Starting off with a doozy:
Brazilian Offshore Oil Projects May Be Delayed, Khelil Says
By Joao Lima and Grant Smith
Oct. 23 (Bloomberg) -- The development of deepwater oil fields off the coast of Brazil may be delayed as the credit crisis makes it harder to finance projects, OPEC President Chakib Khelil said.

Developing Brazil's offshore fields may involve investing $100 billion, for which financing from foreign banks is needed, Khelil, who is also Algeria's oil minister, told reporters in Vienna today. Petroleo Brasileiro SA Chief Executive Officer Jose Sergio Gabrielli on Oct. 20 said some of the company's projects may be delayed because of the international credit crunch.

"Lots of companies are not going to get any financing for developing fields,'' Khelil said. Crude oil prices have more than halved since rising to a record $147.27 on July 11 and that drop may also affect some projects. Canadian oil-sands projects require prices of $90 a barrel and ultra-deepwater drilling needs oil at $70 a barrel to be viable, according to Khelil.

Petrobras plans to have 11 oil platforms operating in the so-called pre-salt cluster near its Tupi field by 2017, Jose Formigli Filho, head of exploration and production at Petrobras, said Sept. 16.

From the Associated Press:
Petrobras chief: Pace of investments to slow
Associated Press 10.22.08, 3:50 PM ET

RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil - The president of Brazil's state-run oil company says the financial crisis means investment plans for new oil finds will be delayed.

Sergio Gabrielli says some investments for the massive pre-salt oil finds slated to take place between 2009 and 2013 are likely to be extended to 2020.
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Re: Credit crunch impacts on production

Unread postby Leanan » Fri 24 Oct 2008, 08:49:02

[url=http://news.nasdaq.com/aspxcontent/newsstory.aspx?selected=9999&selecteddisplaysymbol=9999&cpath=20081023\ACQDJON200810231202DOWJONESDJONLINE000834.htm]OPEC President: Many Oil Projects Hit By Banks Crisis[/url]

Canada oil sands projects revamped as crude slides

Africa's Potential to Sate World's Oil Demand Dims

ANALYSIS - Falling oil could challenge Saudi development plans
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Re: Credit crunch impacts on production

Unread postby ROCKMAN » Fri 24 Oct 2008, 08:53:40

Dude,

Along a similar line I heard an interesting story Wednesday I've yet been able to confirm. The current credit crisis and the bad PR from the CEO's margin call lead Chesapeake to make a $1.2 billion draw on its credit line. The presumption was that it's better to pay some interest now to assure they would have sufficient op cap to keep their drilling program going. As we discussed before they have to keep the UNG development going to stay ahead of those high decline rates.

If much of the credit out there yesterday disappears today with a real market meltdown that draw may be the only thing that keeps their doors open for a while.
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Re: Credit crunch impacts on production

Unread postby Gerben » Fri 24 Oct 2008, 09:03:19

October 16 I heared of a gas company terminating an anounced takeover agreement. "Both parties apparently agreed to the termination in accordance with the terms of the original purchase agreement."
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Re: Credit crunch impacts on production

Unread postby ROCKMAN » Fri 24 Oct 2008, 09:35:07

Along that line a week or two ago Denberry cancelled a $300 million production acquisition and paid a $30 million penalty to do so. No word on why they dropped the deal but lack of financing is a good bet. They would have not agreed to the penalty if they did not beleive in the value of the properties or weren't sure they had the finance in place.
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Unread postby TheDude » Sun 26 Oct 2008, 00:47:06

Zapata George says on the latest Financial Sensethat almost all contracts for drillships and rigs are going to end with current projects!

"So, you have people who have drilling rigs, who are getting, a year ago you couldn't find a drilling rig that didn't have a contract on it. Now there are people who are saying to the rig companies, 'Yo, boys, when this contract expires you're getting this expensive little piece of equipment back!'" About 48 mins into the 1st hour.

Drillers to feel pain of oil patch downturn

In the report's "doomsday case" scenario, gas will fall to US$6/Mcfe, oil to US$50/barrel, and the credit situation will worsen. The result? Spending will slide 25% in 2009, and the rig count would drop to 344.

In the best-case scenario, the utilization rate would be 46%, based on expectation of 8.1 days per well, while the doomsday estimate would see that figure fall to 40%, "in line with industry troughs observed in 2002 and 2007."


In contrast: Drillers say offshore outlook is positive

Diamond Offshore’s Dickerson said he has not seen any deterioration in rental rates for either shallow-water or deep -water drilling rigs.

“Even in the face of declining product prices, we see strength,” he said.

Reinforcing the point, the company announced Thursday a two-year, $452 million contract with France’s Total for Diamond’s semisubmersible Ocean Valiant rig.

The company’s board also increased its special cash dividend to $1.88 per share, from $1.25, and declared a regular quarterly dividend of nearly 13 cents per share.


Note this as well:

Today, 83 rigs are capable of operating in more than 5,000 feet of water, but more than 120 have been ordered for delivery by 2012, according to ODS-Petrodata.

“We expect some of those will not be built,” said Tom Kellock, head of consulting and research at the firm’s Houston office.

He cited a recent analyst report by another firm, predicting 32 of the rigs under construction and on order are at risk of being significantly delayed or not delivered.

Offshore driller executives said some of those rigs are already being shopped around by companies that can no longer afford to build them. But they suggested the prices are too high at the moment.

“So far, I don’t think they’re as hungry as they should be,” Noble’s Williams said, noting that Noble can build a deep-water rig for $150 million less than the $740 million he has heard quoted.


Plummeting oil price pushes Scots explorers to the brink
The industry is awash with rumours that certain Scottish oil explorers are finding that the facilities they thought were secure are vulnerable.

In recent weeks, this has already hit Canadian North Sea explorer Oilexco, which lost almost a fifth of its share value after having to hastily find alternative creditors to supply $300 million (£185m) funding, and London-based Sterling Energy, which was forced into a rights issue to cover impending debt repayments.

Almost every oil explorer's share price has hit rock-bottom levels.

Peter Nicol, an oil analyst at Tristone Capital, said that the falling oil price was exacerbating banks' unwillingness to extend credit, especially because RBS and HBOS are two of the main lenders to the sector.

He said: "The banks are starting to look at the value of projects and saying that it is not looking like a good deal, and in some cases they can review existing credit. That's what happened with Sterling Energy."
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Re: Credit crunch impacts on production

Unread postby copious.abundance » Sun 26 Oct 2008, 01:56:32

Glad to see you guys are finally realizing there's a glut of oil on the market and prices are crashing to the point that projects will be delayed.
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Re: Credit crunch impacts on production

Unread postby Quinny » Sun 26 Oct 2008, 04:51:19

Short term thinking like that lead Thatcher to destroy the UK mining industry. Future extraction of coal in the UK will have massive cost implications and cause massive environmental problems.

OilFinder2 wrote:Glad to see you guys are finally realizing there's a glut of oil on the market and prices are crashing to the point that projects will be delayed.
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Re: Credit crunch impacts on production

Unread postby mididoctors » Sun 26 Oct 2008, 06:15:54

a recession keeps more oil in the ground..

the problem is and always was that the price signal disappears and your still depleting the base and the capital for a alternative energy structure is absent...

are we really going to repeat the early 80's

is Brasil going to produce its deep water oil and sell it cheaply like the UK did with North sea oil?

I'm glad to see Brazil is shelving those projects for now (hopefully)

we are better off depleting the base and making do with less..

this is powering down...

it will also create price pressure in time (how long i don't know)

whats important is if it correctly diagnosed as such by the market
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Re: Credit crunch impacts on production

Unread postby Twilight » Sun 26 Oct 2008, 09:13:49

mididoctors wrote:a recession keeps more oil in the ground..

the problem is and always was that the price signal disappears and your still depleting the base and the capital for a alternative energy structure is absent...

Just imagine dropping oil demand causing production to drop to 20 GB/y through the 2020s. We deplete maybe 250 GB, far less than we would have otherwise. That could be a "powerdown plateau", or we could have idiots believing all the way to 2030 that a return to 2007 levels is possible and investing accordingly. Because obviously the peak oil lobby cried wolf in the 2000s just like it did in the 80s, 1973, etc. Peak due to above ground factors, not geological. I would bet on the poor planning decisions of the 80s being repeated.
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Re: Credit crunch impacts on production

Unread postby ROCKMAN » Sun 26 Oct 2008, 11:36:20

I agree with you Twilight on a couple of key points. For a while I've been soft peddling my thoughts regarding the relative unimportance geological aspect of PO at least in the short term. Above ground factors, such as speculators possibly, demand destruction for certain and the credit crisis, will have a much greater impact on pricing and supply. But another significant above ground factor may be OPEC's ability to perhaps start functioning as a true cartel. There's no point in arguing this point any further: within a couple of months we'll see if they now have the self-discipline to pull it off. If they are not completely successful it's only a matter of time (and the further depletion of their reserve base) before they can directly control the price,a nd more importantly, the availability of oil.

But at that point an even more difficult scenario to predict may loom large: the political/military reaction to the exporters to exert true control over the supple of crude on the market. PO will always be there in the background but, IMO, will often be overshadowed by the prevalent economic and political/military environment.
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Re: Credit crunch impacts on production

Unread postby Twilight » Sun 26 Oct 2008, 19:29:06

We shall certainly see. Another problem is ageing infrastructure. Not a new story, but it has to be said another oil bust could wreck maintenance in all sorts of places at the worst possible moment. US refineries, pipeline networks, offshore. I doubt sub-$50 oil will do North Sea decline rates any favours for one thing (and we have no choice about pumping flat out), and ancient refineries in the US will still be blowing up trying to process sludge without the money for improvements. Who knows, maybe the new ones in the ME Gulf and Asia can pick up some of the slack if local demand growth does not pan out as expected.
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Re: Credit crunch impacts on production

Unread postby Novus » Mon 27 Oct 2008, 02:24:26

OilFinder2 wrote:Glad to see you guys are finally realizing there's a glut of oil on the market and prices are crashing to the point that projects will be delayed.


This is not a "Good" oil glut.

Oil is in free fall right now. If oil prices don't turn around many new projects will turn out to be major money losers. Alternatives will go bankrupt too unable to compete with the new "Cheep" oil.

The price supports that ushered in the astounding era of 87 MBPD have had the rug pulled out from under them.

What we tried to tell you before about the madness of some of these projects is that the are complete unsustainable. You cannot meet the 21st century energy needs on oil drilled 3 miles under the Ocean. In the end people can only pay as much as they can afford. Even $30 oil is expensive if you have no money and that is where we are headed.
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Re: Credit crunch impacts on production

Unread postby sjn » Mon 27 Oct 2008, 07:32:46

Novus wrote:
OilFinder2 wrote:Glad to see you guys are finally realizing there's a glut of oil on the market and prices are crashing to the point that projects will be delayed.


This is not a "Good" oil glut.

Oil is in free fall right now. If oil prices don't turn around many new projects will turn out to be major money losers. Alternatives will go bankrupt too unable to compete with the new "Cheep" oil.

The price supports that ushered in the astounding era of 87 MBPD have had the rug pulled out from under them.

What we tried to tell you before about the madness of some of these projects is that the are complete unsustainable. You cannot meet the 21st century energy needs on oil drilled 3 miles under the Ocean. In the end people can only pay as much as they can afford. Even $30 oil is expensive if you have no money and that is where we are headed.
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Re: Credit crunch impacts on production

Unread postby TheDude » Mon 27 Oct 2008, 13:06:15

Loews Will Inject $1.25 Billion Into CNA After Insurer's Loss

Oct. 27 (Bloomberg) -- Loews Corp., the holding company run by New York's Tisch family, will inject $1.25 billion into CNA Financial Corp. after the insurance unit posted a third-quarter loss on investment declines and hurricane claims. Loews fell 12 percent in New York trading and CNA dropped 15 percent.


Loews owns 90 percent of CNA and 50 percent of Diamond Offshore Drilling Inc., the world's second-largest deepwater oil driller. CNA suspended its dividend for common shares today after a loss of $331 million in the period ended Sept. 30. The new preferred shares sold to Loews will pay a 10 percent dividend for the first five years.


Profit at Diamond rose 52 percent to $310.7 million, driven by oil futures that topped $147 a barrel in July and traded 57 percent higher than in last year's third quarter.

Pipeline Investment

Loews agreed to buy as much as $1 billion of securities from its majority-owned Boardwalk Pipeline Partners LP to help fund pipeline expansion. Loews said it will provide the capital if Boardwalk isn't able to find funds from an outside source ``on acceptable terms.'' Boardwalk shares fell 4.3 percent to $20.16.


OPEC Will Cut Crude Output More If Needed, according to the Iran Governor anyway.

Motley Fool, from the 24th: Is Offshore Drilling Washed Up?

Well, no. 2009 is actually when a lot of great things start happening, including three newbuild deepwater vessels beginning new multiyear contracts. Chevron (NYSE: CVX) gets the ENSCO 7500 down in Australia. Then the ENSCO 8500, the first of seven in a new line of a spiffy semisubmersibles, heads to the Gulf of Mexico for Anadarko (NYSE: APC) and Eni (NYSE: E). Finally, the ENSCO 8501 starts drilling for Nexen and Noble Energy in the third quarter next year. As we learned from National Oilwell Varco (NYSE: NOV), the top shipyards are cash-rich, and I just don't see these major offshore projects running up on the rocks.

For 2009 and beyond, 85% of customers are either investment-grade companies or national oil companies. These people won't pack up and leave at $50 to $75 oil. If we go lower, things will get hairy, but so far, there's just no sign of the offshore implosion that today's share prices seem to signal.
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Re: Credit crunch impacts on production

Unread postby TheDude » Mon 27 Oct 2008, 20:03:01

Petrobras : Dead In The Water - Seeking Alpha

Brazil's oil giant Petrobras (PBR) on Friday postponed the disclosure of its new business plan so that it could evaluate the impact of the global financial crisis.

The global credit crunch has smashed the deepwater building program at Petrobras. Whether it can pay for current orders is questionable. The Brazilian state investment council voted to shore up PBR in the short term. That suggests Petrobras has cash flow problems now -- without the presalt development cost expected to total $500 billion over the next decade.

We noted previously that Petrobras was borrowing to pay dividends, but the precipitous drop in oil price hit its business plan hard. Suddenly, a $20 billion bond issue is impossible.

PBR's published capex budget covered construction of huge new petrochemical and oil refineries, thermal energy network, maintenance and overhaul of P-17 and P-23 platforms, drillship and FPSO charters, and construction of the new Rio Grande shipyard. It has contractual commitments in Africa and deepwater GOM. Zero $ capex was budgeted for production of Tupi-Carioca.

Funding the presalt play was supposed to be easy. Modec is building three FPSOs for Tupi pilot production, which Petrobras agreed to pay $400,000 per day for 5 years with deferred option to buy at $1 billion each. $5 billion total, no cash upfront. Jurong Shipyard in Singapore is funding another FPSO for Roncador field, $1.6 billion plus operating cost. Eight more FPSOs are supposed to be magically assembled on a crash schedule at Rio Grande when it's completed and if they somehow pull together a trained local workforce and 3000 new homes on government subsidies.


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Floating production, storage and offloading unit (FPSO): A moored tanker-type vessel used to develop an offshore oil field. Oil is stored within the FPSO until offloaded to a tanker for transportation to a terminal or refinery.
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Northern Offshore Announces Termination of Agreements to Acquire Two North Sea Semisubmersible Drilling Rigs

Posted 28 October 2008 @ 07:30 am EST

HOUSTON, Oct. 28 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Northern Offshore, Ltd.(Oslo Bors: NOF.OL) today announced that it had advised Transocean, Inc.(NYSE: RIG) that two wholly owned subsidiaries of Northern Offshore areterminating their previously announced agreements to acquire two North Seasemisubmersible drilling rigs from affiliates of Transocean, Inc. Theacquisition of these rigs by Northern Offshore affiliates is contingent uponits ability to obtain Northern Offshore's lender consents to the acquisitionand related financing. Northern Offshore has been unable to obtain the consentof its lenders on terms acceptable to Northern Offshore and has advisedTransocean of this development.

While Northern Offshore and Transocean continue to discuss alternativestructures which could result in Northern Offshore's acquisition of one orboth of these rigs, there is no assurance that these discussions will lead toan agreement which will permit Northern Offshore to acquire these rigs onacceptable terms.


Drilling rigs likely to decline in Barnett Shale

The anticipated drilling slowdown in the Barnett Shale is likely to be repeated nationwide, said Richard Mason, publisher of Land Rig Newsletter in Lubbock. He said most estimates call for a 10 to 20 percent decline in the national rig count, which on Oct. 24 stood at 1,964, according to Baker Hughes, a big Houston oil-field services firm.

That would translate into 200 to 400 rigs being idled. That high number comes from James Crandell of Barclays Capital; Chesapeake Chairman Aubrey McClendon last month also speculated that 200 to 400 rigs could be without work by year’s end.


Rigzone: Oil's Big Players Have an Edge

"Until two months ago, money wasn't a differentiator in this business," says Robin West, chairman of PFC Energy, a consultancy. "Now it is."

The relative performances of Chesapeake Energy and Exxon Mobil this year illustrate the point perfectly. Until early July, Chesapeake was on a tear, with its stock up almost 80%. Exxon's had fallen 7%.

Chesapeake, however, was dependent on liquid capital markets and strong energy prices to make its bet work on unconventional gas resources. Since then, its stock has dropped 63%, the company has slashed spending plans and it now looks vulnerable to a takeover.

Exxon, in contrast, is only down 24% from that point. It benefits from net cash of $30 billion, twinned with a rare triple-A credit rating.

In addition, lower oil prices hurt Exxon less than they do the small-capitalization names that have outperformed in the past few years. Exxon's portfolio is more diversified and lower cost. Crucially, investors never gave it the full benefit of the doubt on commodity prices anyway.
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Re: Credit crunch impacts on production

Unread postby threadbear » Tue 28 Oct 2008, 14:19:46

Oh henny penny henny penny. The sky is falling down! Within a year, the American dollar is going to get slammed, and the price of all commodities, particularly oil, will strengthen. It's not going to go to 150.00 again, but it could easily hit 100.00, so rest easy.
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Unread postby Arsenal » Tue 28 Oct 2008, 14:21:15

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My thoughts exactly threadbear.
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Unread postby TheDude » Wed 29 Oct 2008, 12:17:25

Credit Crunch May Block 20% of Deep Oil Rigs , Slow Petrobras

Oct. 28 (Bloomberg) -- As many as 20 of the 100 deepwater oil rigs on order worldwide may be delayed or canceled as loan availability erodes, possibly slowing developments including the biggest petroleum discovery in the Americas in three decades.

About half of the 20 rigs in question are rented for when they're completed in two to three years -- no longer enough to ensure financing for units that can cost $800 million to build, said Brian Uhlmer, an analyst at Pritchard Capital Partners in Houston. The drillers building those rigs are mostly fledgling contractors and may lack enough cash to satisfy lenders amid a global credit crunch, he said.

Norway's Sevan Marine ASA has lost 70 percent of its value this month amid concern it won't get financing for two drilling units. Houston-based Atwood Oceanics Inc. said Oct. 16 that it won't exercise an option to build a deepwater rig at Jurong Shipyard Pte. Ltd. in Singapore. New rigs were being ordered to ease a shortage of deepwater gear needed to exploit offshore prospects like Brazil's Tupi, announced in November by Petroleo Brasileiro SA, or Petrobras.

``Petrobras would probably be the dominant oil and gas company that gets hit by this,'' Uhlmer said.


Boldface for you, threaddie. Smaller outfits and service companies are dependent on line of credit which is largely independent of the current crude price, while your XOMs of the world fund operations from revenue sales and don't need exterior funding.
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