[mattduke]

Do you get it yet?

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[drew]

If you've done nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry about......




Drew

[Denny]

When it comes to motor vehicles, I don't see why you have civil liberties. Driving is a privilege, not a right.

[drew]

What's scary is the fact that you can no longer travel any distance at all without being monitored. If tptb start IDing bus and train passengers they will have complete knowledge of one's travels outside of local areas.

Drew

[eastbay]

Sounds like a very effective law enforcement tool.

At least for now....

[jasonraymondson]

lol Most of you people are running around with cell phones... and you are worried about them knowing if you are on a greyhound.

Please, stop embarrassing yourselves already.

[pedalling_faster]

If you've done nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry about......

this would be true - if the police never made mistakes.

[Keith_McClary]

If you've done nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry about...

Yah, we can be sure our guardians at Homeland Security will keep info about our travels secret from our business competitors and our spouses. Even if they get a phone call from an old army buddy who is now a Private I, seeking info. That only happens in the movies. Relax.

[eucalyptus]

If you've done nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry about...

That is plain dumb.

Funny, I know 8 million Jews who would contradict what you say.

Also, here are a few others who "DID NOTHING WRONG"

Dude, when they finally make the world move for one world dead, you are dead if you don't join, especially if you did nothing.

After conquering western Anatolia in 88 BC, Mithridates VI reportedly ordered the killing of all Romans living there. The massacre of Roman men, women and children is known as the Asiatic Vespers.[34]
Julius Caesar's campaign against the Helvetii, the Celtic inhabitants of modern Switzerland: approximately 60% of the tribe was killed, and another 20% was taken into slavery. The remainder of the Helvetii were driven back into their old lands.
During the war against tribes in northern Spain trying to resist the Romans, led by emperor Augustus, the latter is acknowledged for pursuing an extermination policy[citation needed] which included cleansing of the entire adult male population of Cantabria and Asturias and all of its culture were forcibly shattered and replaced by Roman or pro-Roman settlers.
The ethnic cleansing and massacres of Roman population of Roman Britain by Celtic Britons during the Boudica's revolt, in 60-61 AD.[35]
The Germanic Vandals were enslaved and deported from North Africa after the Vandal kingdom in North Africa was defeated by a Byzantine army during a Vandalic War in 533 and 534.[36]
The apartheid-like system existed in early Anglo-Saxon England, which prevented the native British genes getting into the Anglo-Saxon population by restricting intermarriage and wiped out a majority of original British genes in favour of Germanic ones, according to a new study. According to research led by University College London, Anglo-Saxon settlers enjoyed a substantial social and economic advantage over the native Celtic Britons[37] who lived in what is now England, for more than 300 years from the middle of the 5th century.[38][39][40]
St. Brice's Day massacre of 1002. The Anglo-Saxon King Ethelred the Unready ordered the death of all the Danes living in the Kingdom of England.[41][42]
The Pechenegs, nomadic Turkic people from the steppe, were nearly annihilated at the Battle of Levounion by a combined Byzantine and Cuman army in 1091. Attacked again in 1094 by the Cumans, many Pechenegs were slain or absorbed.
Jews were frequently massacred and exiled from various European countries. The persecution hit its first peak during the Crusades. In the First Crusade (1096) flourishing communities on the Rhine and the Danube were utterly destroyed; see German Crusade, 1096. In the Second Crusade (1147) the Jews in France were subject to frequent massacres. The Crusades were followed by expulsions, including in, 1290, the banishing of all English Jews; in 1396, 100,000 Jews were expelled from France.
Jews and Christians expelled from Morocco and Islamic Spain during the reign of Berber dynasty of Almohads in the 12th century. Almohads gave a choice of either death or conversion to Islam, or exile. Some, such the family of Maimonides, fled east to the more tolerant Muslim lands, while others went northward to settle in the growing Christian kingdoms.[43][44]
At the beginning of the 13th century the eastern part of the Islamic world experienced the terrifying holocaust of the Mongol invasion, which turned northern and eastern Iran into a desert. Over much of Central Asia speakers of Iranian languages were replaced by speakers of Turkic languages.[45]
The conquest of Prussia was accomplished with much bloodshed over more than 50 years, during which native Prussians who remained unbaptised were subjugated, killed, or exiled. To replace the partially exterminated native population, the Teutonic Order encouraged the immigration of German colonists.
In 1270, the Jews of Tunisia were required either to leave or to embrace Islam.
The ethnic cleansing of the French from Sicily during the Sicilian Vespers in 1282.
The Crow Creek Massacre in 1325 was part of the ethnic cleansing of the Initial Coalescent people by the Middle Missouri villagers.[46]
Northern Iraq remained predominantly Assyrian Christian until the destructions of Tamerlane, a Turco-Mongol conqueror, at the end of the 14th century.[47]
Between the 11th and 18th centuries, the Vietnamese expanded southward in a process known as nam tiến (southward expansion). In 1471 the kingdom of Champa suffered a massive defeat by the Vietnamese, in which 120,000 Cham people were either captured or killed, and the kingdom was reduced to a small enclave near Nha Trang.[48][49]
Spain's large Muslim and Jewish minorities, inherited from that country's former Islamic kingdoms, were expelled following a Alhambra decree in 1492, while converts to Catholicism, called Moriscos or Marranos, were expelled between 1609 and 1614.[50]
The deportations of the Armenians by Persian Safavids, which begun in the 1530s under Tahmasp I. Between 1604 and 1605 Shah Abbas relocated some 150,000 Armenians to an area of Isfahan called New Julfa.
In 1622, the tribal chief of the Powhatan Confederacy of what is now Virginia in the United States planned the destruction of the English settlers. During the Jamestown Massacre, the Powhatans killed 347 English settlers throughout the Virginia colony, almost one-third of the English population of first permanent English colony in the New World.[51] However, according to international law this would not be ethnic cleansing but a legitimate attack on illegal settlers, since all civilians on occupied land are legitimate military targets, unless there was a treaty in place.
Hundreds of thousands of Poles and Jews had been wiped out or driven from the lands of present-day Ukraine by Zaporozhian Cossacks during the Khmelnytsky Uprising (1648-1654).[52] As a result of events during The Deluge, population of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth dropped by one-third.
After the Cromwellian conquest of Ireland and Act of Settlement in 1652, Irish Catholics had most of their lands confiscated and were banned from living in towns for a short period. As many as 100,000 Irish men, women and children were forcibly taken to the colonies in the West Indies and North America as indentured servants or slaves.[53] The contemporary commentator Prendergast reported that four fifths of Ireland's population was removed or killed and that whole counties were empty. The remaining native Irish were confined to Connacht only and were immediately killed if found east of the River Shannon. Several thousand Irish soldiers were sold to the King of Spain, the Dutch and a Polish Privateer. The death toll could have been over 1 million.
On August 10, 1680, the Pueblo Indians rose in revolt against Spanish rule. By the time the Pueblo Revolt succeeded, the Pueblo warriors killed 380 Spanish settlers and drove the surviving Europeans from New Mexico. By 1690s, certain Pueblo groups wanted the Spanish to come back to protect them against Apache and Navajo raiders.[54]
Kosovo was taken temporarily by the Austrian forces during the Great Turkish War with help of Serbian soldiers who lived in the Krajina within the Monarchy. After the Austrians retreated in 1690, hundreds of thousands of Serbs from Kosovo had to flee to Bosnia and Vojvodina to evade Ottoman reprisals.

[Arsenal]

lol Most of you people are running around with cell phones... and you are worried about them knowing if you are on a greyhound. Please, stop embarrassing yourselves already.

At least with a cell phone you have a choice. I can choose not to buy one. I guess you can choose not to own a car and ride a bus but then what. Pay cash for the ticket but then there are cameras on the bus/subway and terminals. Staying below the radar is getting increasingly harder.

You always have a choice but at what point to you stop being a functional member of society? No cell phone, car, bus, job, credit cards, address, etc....

We should not have to submit to these invasions of privacy just to live in today's society. Innocent until proven guilty no longer means anything.

[eucalyptus]

Only book you'll eve need

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ISBN-10: 0954359666

[mos6507]

Listen, do you know how cheap a camera is? Practically everyone in the civilized world now carries a camera capable of both stills and low quality movies (a cell phone). They are like an extension of our eyes now. When Led Zeppelin played their O2 show, a swarm of clips from hundreds of cell phone perspectives massed on Youtube. If you put them all together you could probably recreate a 3D panorama. And what about Google earth and street view? The omniscience, it's like being a GOD. The amount of data that is being generated is staggering. The genie is out of the bottle. There is no turning back even if you wanted to.

[vision-master]

Listen, do you know how cheap a camera is? Practically everyone in the civilized world now carries a camera capable of both stills and low quality movies (a cell phone). They are like an extension of our eyes now. When Led Zeppelin played their O2 show, a swarm of clips from hundreds of cell phone perspectives massed on Youtube. If you put them all together you could probably recreate a 3D panorama. And what about Google earth and street view? The omniscience, it's like being a GOD. The amount of data that is being generated is staggering. The genie is out of the bottle. There is no turning back even if you wanted to.

LZ - Here tis....

[mattduke]

When it comes to motor vehicles, I don't see why you have civil liberties. Driving is a privilege, not a right.

Disgusting.

[drew]

If you've done nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry about...

That is plain dumb.
Funny, I know 8 million Jews who would contradict what you say.
Also, here are a few others who "DID NOTHING WRONG." Dude, when they finally make the world move for one world dead, you are dead if you don't join, especially if you did nothing.

Did you perhaps see my second post in this thread????

Drew