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Does US print her way out of trouble now?

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Tue 09 Dec 2008, 05:13:02

I have recently noted that US national debt clock is showing contraction of debt (I observe about $50 billion contraction within last 2 weeks or so).
So how that is done?
Is that done by a mere printing of money?
Anyone can help?
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Re: Does US print her way out of trouble now?

Unread postby TreeFarmer » Tue 09 Dec 2008, 09:37:19

I don't know about the debt clock but it is very hard to "print" yourself out of anything, in fact about all you can do is "print" yourself into trouble. Every dollar that is printed turns into at least 9 more dollars once it hits the banking system and thus would lead to wholesale inflation.

Have you watched "Money as Debt"? That would answer your question.

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Re: Does US print her way out of trouble now?

Unread postby sjn » Tue 09 Dec 2008, 09:47:43

TreeFarmer wrote:I don't know about the debt clock but it is very hard to "print" yourself out of anything, in fact about all you can do is "print" yourself into trouble. Every dollar that is printed turns into at least 9 more dollars once it hits the banking system and thus would lead to wholesale inflation.

Have you watched "Money as Debt"? That would answer your question.

TF

Actually, it won't. What EU is asking, is whether the non-debt backed printing (which has now begun) will result in a reduction of the US national debt as shown on the debt clock. One would have to assume it would, but the rate of "printing" would need to be very high. Money *was* debt when the fractional reserve banking system somewhat functioned, now it's simply becoming worthless.
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Re: Does US print her way out of trouble now?

Unread postby GreyFox » Tue 09 Dec 2008, 10:09:56

The U.S. Treasury Dept. will attempt to sell as many TBills, Notes, and Bonds as the markets can absorb. However, with all the bailouts and deficits much of the future debt will be required to be monitized (printed) with no sterlization of the funds. Over the longer term this will cause additional inflation (an increase in money supply and/or credit). The Markets, Real Estate, and most any asset tied to credit are deflating currently. Presently deflation is winning the battle but eventually inflation will overcome the delfation resulting in higher prices for basic goods (food, clothing, energy). Longer term the "dollar is toast".
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Re: Does US print her way out of trouble now?

Unread postby nobodypanic » Tue 09 Dec 2008, 12:57:08

all this fuss over paper.

the 'answer' is as plain as the nose on our faces... jettison the entire concept of money. :lol:
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Re: Does US print her way out of trouble now?

Unread postby Arsenal » Tue 09 Dec 2008, 13:40:47

nobodypanic wrote:all this fuss over paper.

the 'answer' is as plain as the nose on our faces... jettison the entire concept of money. :lol:


But, but, but... that would mean all those "rich" people would have to actually work for their food or have the skills to grow it. :roll:
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