[vision-master]

Glad I don't live there.

We are armed here in the US.

Under the regulations, bailiffs for private firms would for the first time be given permission to restrain or pin down householders. They would also be able to force their way into homes to seize property to pay off debts, such as unpaid credit card bills and loans.

It is claimed these powers are already abused. In one case, an 89-year-old grandmother returned home to find a bailiff sitting in her chair having drawn up a list of her possessions. He was pursuing a parking fine owed by her son, who did not even live at the address.

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[Gorm]

Yes, americans have a lot of guns. Dont really know what good they will do you. It is not like they will protect you from the authorities in any usefull way.

[smallpoxgirl]

In the US that job is done by the county sheriff? Is it all done privately in the UK?

[Gorm]

I Sweden there is a special gouverment organisation "kronofogden" that have the rigth to sease property. They are however unarmed but if need arise they can be assisted by the police. Some yeras ago two of them were shot to death by someone who decied that he wanted to keep the things they were there to collcet. So, he was armed, they were not, but in the end he was no better of nor was anyone else.

[Quinny]

I was heavily involved with bailiffs (by that I mean against) when the anti - poll tax protests were in full flow. They've always acted heavy with people, but when the community acted collectively against them they struggled to collect. Guidelines made them act a bit more responsibly, but it looks like the govt is intending to let them off the leash. With increasing debt, it could get interesting in British working class areas, especially as many of the people they will be trying to collect from could well be amongst the few people in the UK who are armed in any way.

[Schmuto]

We're here.

[Gorm]

Yes, americans have a lot of guns. Dont really know what good they will do you.

Of course you don't. How the hell could you? You were born and raised in the bosom of ass-wiping socialism. As far as you know, you can't fart without the government's permission.

The concept of owning a gun to protect yourself is as foreign to you as is a 70 degree January day - you have no concept.

So sit there is the middle of nowhere, where there is nothing that anybody wants and wall to wall mirror image white people, pay your 70% taxes in the faux prosperity that peak oil has allowed you, and marvel at your inability to comprehend why it is that the majority of Americans prefer to be armed.

You're like a bleating little eurosheep tethered inside a corral. You look at Americans, who are free to roam, and you can't imagine what all the fuss is about - you have your warm barn, your plain feed, and a farmer who cares about you.

Well, gee.. hmm you did not get that many points on that one. My point is that you owning guns do not protect you from the goverment. About the other things you wrote, well I guess you havent been to sweden far to often I can tell.

[gandolf]

Yes, americans have a lot of guns. Dont really know what good they will do you.

Of course you don't. How the hell could you? You were born and raised in the bosom of ass-wiping socialism. As far as you know, you can't fart without the government's permission.

The concept of owning a gun to protect yourself is as foreign to you as is a 70 degree January day - you have no concept.

So sit there is the middle of nowhere, where there is nothing that anybody wants and wall to wall mirror image white people, pay your 70% taxes in the faux prosperity that peak oil has allowed you, and marvel at your inability to comprehend why it is that the majority of Americans prefer to be armed.

You're like a bleating little eurosheep tethered inside a corral. You look at Americans, who are free to roam, and you can't imagine what all the fuss is about - you have your warm barn, your plain feed, and a farmer who cares about you.

Hmm sounds like somebody got out on the wrong side of the bed this morning.

Also a little bit deluded if you think that you are free in the good old USA

[Quinny]

And you were lucky to be born in the land of the free, where you can't even take your shirt off walking down the street. Can't have a beer on the beach. Can't even cross the road where you want. Oh but sorry I forgot you can carry guns - gee whiz !

Yes, americans have a lot of guns. Dont really know what good they will do you.

Of course you don't. How the hell could you? You were born and raised in the bosom of ass-wiping socialism. As far as you know, you can't fart without the government's permission.

The concept of owning a gun to protect yourself is as foreign to you as is a 70 degree January day - you have no concept.

So sit there is the middle of nowhere, where there is nothing that anybody wants and wall to wall mirror image white people, pay your 70% taxes in the faux prosperity that peak oil has allowed you, and marvel at your inability to comprehend why it is that the majority of Americans prefer to be armed.

You're like a bleating little eurosheep tethered inside a corral. You look at Americans, who are free to roam, and you can't imagine what all the fuss is about - you have your warm barn, your plain feed, and a farmer who cares about you.

[Gorm]

And by the way, there is a lot of leagle wepons in sweden. Hunting is big here, and there is a lot of big game to hunt. If you leave the cities and get out on the contryside riefls are preatty common.

[gollum]

"Yes, americans have a lot of guns. Dont really know what good they will do you. It is not like they will protect you from the authorities in any usefull way."

According to wiki answers there are 52 million households in America with guns, I would say it is a very tall order for our government to ever attempt to subdue 52 million gun owners with a 2.5 million man army. I'd say when push comes to shove we are pretty well protected from the authorities here.

[Quinny]

so you are all going to band together to protect yourself when the bailifs/backed by sheriffs/ soldiers come to colect your back taxes/gold. you really believe that !

from what I see / hear on here, you'll to be too busy shooting each other!

[Dreamtwister]

According to wiki answers there are 52 million households in America with guns, I would say it is a very tall order for our government to ever attempt to subdue 52 million gun owners with a 2.5 million man army. I'd say when push comes to shove we are pretty well protected from the authorities here.

And of course, they will defend eachother from the authorities, right? They will of course all band together "when it's time", right?

Well, it's been "time" for several years now, and still there is no revolution.

[perdition79]

And of course, they will defend eachother from the authorities, right? They will of course all band together "when it's time", right?

Well, it's been "time" for several years now, and still there is no revolution.

In order for any American revolution to result in future benefit to Americans, we need to suffer under tyranny for a decade or so, to get the blood boiling. We've had it too good for too long. The people are as broken as the government, and would install the wrong type of rule if the revolution happened right now.

[Cloud9]

Bravado aside, I had a legal machine gun when the sheriff came to take my property. I did not shoot him. I knew the deputy. He was a man doing his job. I simply handed him the business card of my bankruptcy attorney and stopped the whole mess. The world has got to become a far stranger place before I will kill a man over some used furniture and clothing.

[neocone]

Yes, americans have a lot of guns. Dont really know what good they will do you. It is not like they will protect you from the authorities in any usefull way.

Dude!!! Most urban fighting involves the PISTOL. And maybe light rifles like ARs, AK47s or M-16...

Check IRAK. What good do tank and heavy artillery or bombs do when you fight in an urban setting??? PRETTY MUCH NONE.

When are those anti-gun idiots realize a CONCEALED PISTOL is like 1000 tanks when you approach and stop the right person?

[Gorm]

Freedom is a state of mind and one can be free or not free regardless of any and all posseisons of weapons. And if you think the us goverment regards your weapons as a threat well, big LOL at that one :D

Good luck with your conceald gun strategy to by the way :D

[vision-master]

Freedom is a state of mind and one can be free or not free regardless of any and all posseisons of weapons. And if you think the us goverment regards your weapons as a threat well, big LOL at that one :D

Good luck with your conceald gun strategy to by the way :D

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[Gorm]

well.. that picture does not have mutch to do with this discussion, but, it proves my point.

[Cloud9]

As I recall, that was a Saigon police officer killing the fellow who had been part of the team that had killed the police officer's family. I believe that was Tet 1968.