deMolay wrote:What will be the worldwide effects of the USA ending it's role as the World's policeman. Due to the economic collapse. The same thing happened to Great Britain. Let's suppose that the economic collapse is so great that the USA no longer can afford a 7 Seas Navy and pulls back to true national defense only. What will that mean worldwide? What will happen to globalism? What will it mean at the local level?
Fishman wrote:EU
You contradict yourself
"It will mean freedom of nations from unwarranted intrusion.
Darker side include increased frequency of local/regional wars"
You are saying unwarranted intrusion will just take another form. I think it will probably be far more brutal.
Blacksmith wrote:One thing is for certain, the United Nations will be helpless.
We may see nations protecting thier own interests, similar to their reaction to Somali pirates.
Then again I don't see why the US taxpayer should have to pay to police the world without deriving any economic benifit.
mos6507 wrote:The european welfare state will suffer when the EU has to spend more of its resources on its own military protection.
Japan will have to be allowed to have an unfettered military.
The house of Saud may fall to extremism. Pakistan as well.
Snowrunner wrote:mos6507 wrote:The european welfare state will suffer when the EU has to spend more of its resources on its own military protection.
From whom? Russia? They want trade. Africa? Possible, but the refugees are more of a problem than military invasion.
Europe isn't in such a bad position. Russia will have much more problems with the Chinese right at the underbelly of the Russian Empire.Japan will have to be allowed to have an unfettered military.
Again, why? They are a nation of Islands with no real strategic or resource benefit. China couldn't care less really, they will have their hands full.The house of Saud may fall to extremism. Pakistan as well.
Yes, I agree with that assessment. Both are already on the verge and are only kept in power because of US intervention.
mos6507 wrote:Helloooo. Peakoil.com. You know, catton, overpopulation, climate refugees, resource wars? Don't assume the EU or Japan will never face a military threat.
deMolay wrote:What will be the worldwide effects of the USA ending it's role as the World's policeman. Due to the economic collapse. The same thing happened to Great Britain. Let's suppose that the economic collapse is so great that the USA no longer can afford a 7 Seas Navy and pulls back to true national defense only. What will that mean worldwide? What will happen to globalism? What will it mean at the local level?
dorlomin wrote:
The UK has subsequently gone on to be vastly wealthier than it was during it imperial heyday.
dorlomin wrote:let the Iranians get on with being Iranian, but sell us the oil instead of threatening to 'liberate' them all the time.
ReverseEngineer wrote:dorlomin wrote:
The UK has subsequently gone on to be vastly wealthier than it was during it imperial heyday.
By what measure? Last time I checked, the UK was about broke and the Pound Sterling was making the Dollar look like a strong currency. How does being massively in debt make you wealthy?
Reverse Engineer
mos6507 wrote:dorlomin wrote:let the Iranians get on with being Iranian, but sell us the oil instead of threatening to 'liberate' them all the time.
Do you have a problem with that? You believe in absolute isolationism? The oil doesn't do Iran any good until it's sold to somebody.
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