TreeFarmer wrote:The beginnings of the big federal government can be traced back to a president from Illinois, will the beginning of the end of big federal government be timed to a president from Illinois?
I am not saying that Obama is for a smaller federal government, just that circumstances might force the role of the federal government to begin a substantial decline during his administration.
It would be ironic for big federal government to begin and end with a president from Illinois.
TF
AAA wrote:It is clear Obama wants to destroy the US which will also destroy the US govt.
Jotapay wrote:AAA wrote:It is clear Obama wants to destroy the US which will also destroy the US govt.
Clinton and Bush-2 did plenty themselves before Obama came on the scene.
AAA wrote:Increasing taxes for those making more money..
Ludi wrote:AAA wrote:Increasing taxes for those making more money..
Taxes on the wealthy will still be quite low compared to top rates in the past.
http://www.truthandpolitics.org/top-rates.php
AAA wrote:
Obama is taking money away from the ones who will actually use the money to help our economy recover.
Ludi wrote:Don't worry so much about the rich, they will be fine.
AAA wrote:Obama is taking money away from the ones who will actually use the money to help our economy recover.
Pops wrote:AAA wrote:Obama is taking money away from the ones who will actually use the money to help our economy recover.
My take is they would take the money to feather their own nest.
Pops wrote:Tell me how they have helped expand the economy (the bottom 80-90%) in a positive way over the last few years.
Tell me how that bottom 80% have fared better.
Pops wrote:Tell me how the top few percent have invested those tax breaks and how much better off we all are than 10 years ago...
Pops wrote:And to your most recent post, if a person can't afford the neighborhood they should find another and rethink their Plan.
AAA wrote:In the major metro areas, a family that earns $250,000 is basically middle class if not lower middle class.
AAA wrote:Ever hear of small business owners? .
Ludi wrote:Don't worry so much about the rich, they will be fine.
Ludi wrote:If a small business owner can't endure a 3% increase in taxes on his personal income I'm afraid I can't cry for him very much. The tax increase is not on his business but on his personal income. If he can't scrape by on $250,000 a year personal income I'm afraid there's no help for him.
AAA wrote:Ludi wrote:Don't worry so much about the rich, they will be fine.
I am not worried about the rich. I am worried about the middle class who earns over $250,000
In the major metro areas, a family that earns $250,000 is basically middle class if not lower middle class.
When a 1,400 sqft house in a decent neighborhood costs $600,000 a couple earning $250,000 definitely isn't rich or even upper middle class. They are working their tails off just to keep their kids in a safe neighborhood and in a so-so school system. Whether we like it or not that is reality for many of our cities.
I encourage many of my friends to move out of the city. It just doesn't make sense for 99% of people.
ubercrap wrote:AAA wrote:Ludi wrote:Don't worry so much about the rich, they will be fine.
I am not worried about the rich. I am worried about the middle class who earns over $250,000
In the major metro areas, a family that earns $250,000 is basically middle class if not lower middle class.
When a 1,400 sqft house in a decent neighborhood costs $600,000 a couple earning $250,000 definitely isn't rich or even upper middle class. They are working their tails off just to keep their kids in a safe neighborhood and in a so-so school system. Whether we like it or not that is reality for many of our cities.
I encourage many of my friends to move out of the city. It just doesn't
make sense for 99% of people.
JJ wrote:Funniest thing is how miserable people are in these rich countries.
While most of the world is envious of the west's wealth; they are not envious of the attitude that goes with it.
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