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Ronald Reagan: Worst President Ever?

Unread postby Carlhole » Wed 03 Jun 2009, 10:04:38

Ronald Reagan: Worst President Ever?

Granted, the very idea of rating Reagan as one of the worst presidents ever will infuriate his many right-wing acolytes and offend Washington insiders who have made a cottage industry out of buying some protection from Republicans by lauding the 40th President.

But there’s a growing realization that the starting point for many of the catastrophes confronting the United States today can be traced to Reagan’s presidency. There’s also a grudging reassessment that the “failed” presidents of the 1970s – Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter – may deserve more credit for trying to grapple with the problems that now beset the country.

Nixon, Ford and Carter won scant praise for addressing the systemic challenges of America’s oil dependence, environmental degradation, the arms race, and nuclear proliferation – all issues that Reagan essentially ignored and that now threaten America’s future.


What would Reagan do if he were president today and NOT ignoring the importance of peak oil, global warming, environmental degradation, terrorism and a GWOT, a housing crisis, hundreds of billions of toxic asset purchases, a global financial calamity, crumbling infrastructure, high unemployment, volatile energy prices, etc?

Seems like we have reached some sort of debt apex, the culmination of a trend begun under Reagan.
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Re: Ronald Reagan: Worst President Ever?

Unread postby efarmer » Wed 03 Jun 2009, 11:07:04

Reagan, like Obama, presented an understandable, coherent,
and reliable source of concisely communicated objectives to
the public, who weighing them in an almost complete lack of
cogent alternatives, accepted both of them with a grain of salt,
knowing that it was still far better than the usual offering that
burps out of the corporate churned, ideological compost bin
of Washington, D.C.

Like I believe we are witnessing here in part, when you delight
in showing how experienced or intelligent you are by pointing
out what is wrong with everyone else but yourself, and by
brilliantly elucidating that all roads lead to deadlock at best,
and ruin and chaos in all probability, people begin to drift
away and leave you to argue the fine details amongst your
own kind.

You can get tired, contentious, damaging, time wasting,
ceaseless drivel for free just about anywhere. To contrast
and win against this, a large part of the recipe is just not
serving the same old cynical and obviously failed slime,
whilst billing it as a brand new flavor of Jello.

Congress is full of these people in both parties,
and I am really hoping an awakened and humbled American
people are ready to clean out that stinky fridge next.
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Re: Ronald Reagan: Worst President Ever?

Unread postby mos6507 » Wed 03 Jun 2009, 11:23:58

Never forget that Carter also capitulated in the end. He is not the peak oil prophet that people often make him out to be.
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Re: Ronald Reagan: Worst President Ever?

Unread postby TWilliam » Wed 03 Jun 2009, 11:34:34

The funny thing about Reagan was that he was probably just about the most perfect personification of a modern president to occupy the White House, i.e. an actor pretending to be something he isn't.
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Re: Ronald Reagan: Worst President Ever?

Unread postby Daniel_Plainview » Wed 03 Jun 2009, 11:38:37

George W. Bush virtually destroyed America, and on that basis alone, he merits the trademark as "Worst President EVER"
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Re: Ronald Reagan: Worst President Ever?

Unread postby dunewalker » Wed 03 Jun 2009, 11:54:56

DoomWarrior wrote:George W. Bush virtually destroyed America, and on that basis alone, he merits the trademark as "Worst President EVER"


G.W. Bush was merely the puppet's puppet. Reagan's handlers set the chaos in motion, only to complete the process as the handlers of 43. Remember, Cheney, Rumsfield, et al were the behind-the-scenes men during Reagan's years.
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Re: Ronald Reagan: Worst President Ever?

Unread postby vision-master » Wed 03 Jun 2009, 12:01:17

cbxer55 wrote:Wait until obama's first and only term is up! :roll:


President Pawlenty :P

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Re: Ronald Reagan: Worst President Ever?

Unread postby Plantagenet » Wed 03 Jun 2009, 12:13:37

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IMHO, Obama already is the worst president ever.

--He's created more debt in 100 days then Bush managed in 8 years
--The debt is going for porkulus.
--He's spending $1,500,000 per job to keep his cronies in the UAW employed building obsolescent cars when peak oil is hitting.
--He destroyed contract law and ripped off pension funds to benefit the UAW, so no investor in his right mind will ever lend to a company with strong unions again.
--He's stopped ICE enforcement
--He's continued Bush policies on terror
--He can't talk without a teleprompter

and

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BO is a crummy dancer.
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Re: Ronald Reagan: Worst President Ever?

Unread postby TWilliam » Wed 03 Jun 2009, 12:35:43

Plantagenet wrote:Image
IMHO, Obama already is the worst president ever.

--He's created more debt in 100 days then Bush managed in 8 years
--The debt is going for porkulus.
--He's spending $1,500,000 per job to keep his cronies in the UAW employed building obsolescent cars when peak oil is hitting.
--He destroyed contract law and ripped off pension funds to benefit the UAW, so no investor in his right mind will ever lend to a company with strong unions again.
--He's stopped ICE enforcement
--He's continued Bush policies on terror

Yep, as usual the Pigs 'Pubs have left the restaurant and the Dems are stuck with the check (note that they all eat together however). You'd think by now people would know to never sit down at the table with the flag-pin crowd...
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Re: Ronald Reagan: Worst President Ever?

Unread postby Plantagenet » Wed 03 Jun 2009, 12:38:26

TWilliam wrote:... the flag-pin crowd...


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Re: Ronald Reagan: Worst President Ever?

Unread postby TWilliam » Wed 03 Jun 2009, 12:44:42

Plantagenet wrote:
TWilliam wrote:... the flag-pin crowd...


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:lol: :lol:

Funny, but a piss-poor photoshop job. I could do better... 8)
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Re: Ronald Reagan: Worst President Ever?

Unread postby 3aidlillahi » Wed 03 Jun 2009, 13:05:39

Why do people debate with PA still? I just put him on ignore and go on with my life (quite contently in fact).
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Re: Ronald Reagan: Worst President Ever?

Unread postby mos6507 » Wed 03 Jun 2009, 13:36:21

3aidlillahi wrote:Why do people debate with PA still? I just put him on ignore and go on with my life (quite contently in fact).


I'd rather they have banned Planty than ReverseEngineer. At least RE is capable of writing about something other than Obama.
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Re: Ronald Reagan: Worst President Ever?

Unread postby rangerone314 » Wed 03 Jun 2009, 13:36:35

Plantagenet wrote:Image
IMHO, Obama already is the worst president ever.

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BO is a crummy dancer.


I thought that last shot was kind of a cheap shot, but it does prove that he is white, because white people can't dance! :twisted:
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Re: Ronald Reagan: Worst President Ever?

Unread postby efarmer » Wed 03 Jun 2009, 13:38:44

What's an ideological and culture clash vampire to do when
the trend runs against divide and conquer and tips toward
unite and collaborate?

Where does a frightened chickenhawk with bat wings
and the loud mouth of a crow go and still be considered
a raptor with leadership traits?

I think back to the familiar confines of his culture clash cartoon
world, where he can be the zero summation of a zero sum
pursuit of lucrative conflict as a way of life.

They would like to say it is liberal v. conservative, or party v. party,
or right v. wrong, but I think it is the end of a bull run for a pack
of human scavengers, and they are having a hard time putting a
noble tinge on their legacy.
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Re: Ronald Reagan: Worst President Ever?

Unread postby mos6507 » Wed 03 Jun 2009, 14:05:09

I really think people who wallow in the blame game are going to be a drag on preps/mitigation going forward. Get the blame out of your system and move forward already. Planty and his ilk are political junkies. Their role in life is to act as an irritant to bludgeon people to their way of thinking. Kind of a low-level Rush Limbaugh. You know, if one political cartoon won't work, maybe 10,000 will eventually wear down your resolve. This just isn't going to make a lick of difference in helping deal with doom. Hey Planty, with a nickname like that, have you ever actually planted a seed in your life? You better get cracking because you can't eat Obama caricatures (except this one).

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Re: Ronald Reagan: Worst President Ever?

Unread postby 3aidlillahi » Wed 03 Jun 2009, 14:07:15

PA used to be one of the hard-core Cornies (as PlantedAgent).


But that has nothing to do with him now which is almost 100% trashing Obama. He makes some decent points with non-Obama related topics but he rarely ventures into those topics anyway. And even then, he often finds a way to blame Obama.
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