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New Gubmint Policy Strict Standards On Yard Sales

Unread postby deMolay » Wed 23 Sep 2009, 18:43:51

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Re: New Gubmint Policy Strict Standards On Yard Sales

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Wed 23 Sep 2009, 19:33:41

Yeah. I'm still waiting to have my house raided by the FBI looking for copied video tapes and untagged mattresses. I wouldn't hold your breath for them to raid your yardsale.
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Re: New Gubmint Policy Strict Standards On Yard Sales

Unread postby the48thronin » Wed 23 Sep 2009, 20:08:37

smallpoxgirl wrote:Yeah. I'm still waiting to have my house raided by the FBI looking for copied video tapes and untagged mattresses. I wouldn't hold your breath for them to raid your yardsale.


What they are looking for are the people who bought recalled items ( lead paint toys melamine tainted dof food etc) and plan to sell them.

Not individuals, but lots of recalled goods from the distributers who had to take them back on the recall. They were not disposed of by incineration, rather by resale to other distributers.
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Re: New Gubmint Policy Strict Standards On Yard Sales

Unread postby deMolay » Thu 24 Sep 2009, 08:41:13

What I took from the article. Is that they are laying groundwork. The regulation does affect your yardsale legally. It definately does not exempt it. Reminds me of stories of how Stalins Comrades swept out the grain from the granaries in the Ukrainian Famine.
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Re: New Gubmint Policy Strict Standards On Yard Sales

Unread postby TreeFarmer » Thu 24 Sep 2009, 09:06:32

From the article:

Conclusion: One waits in vain for enough citizens to shout "stop." We have a feeling that the swelling support for US Congressman Ron Paul (R-Tex) will eventually manifest itself in just this sort of statement. But it will not happen quickly nor easily. In the meantime, the federal government will grind on, loading regulation after regulation onto the fragile shoulders of working people who cannot afford them and have no way of following them to begin with. Thus, from a thousand cuts, Western civilization dies and authoritarianism rises.
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Re: New Gubmint Policy Strict Standards On Yard Sales

Unread postby rangerone314 » Thu 24 Sep 2009, 09:27:50

TreeFarmer wrote:From the article:

Conclusion: One waits in vain for enough citizens to shout "stop." We have a feeling that the swelling support for US Congressman Ron Paul (R-Tex) will eventually manifest itself in just this sort of statement. But it will not happen quickly nor easily. In the meantime, the federal government will grind on, loading regulation after regulation onto the fragile shoulders of working people who cannot afford them and have no way of following them to begin with. Thus, from a thousand cuts, Western civilization dies and authoritarianism rises.


The irony in all this may be is that we might end up with a charismatic leader like Hitler who tells the American people that the current system is toxic and not reformable. Then all the lobbyists, politicians, and banksters may find themselves on a cattle train car to a death camp. No doubt both sides would recruit a lot of people to fight for them.

The smart money would be on people who stay out of that fight and try to avoid being collateral damage until there is a clear victor, just like in a big barfight between two huge rednecks.
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Re: New Gubmint Policy Strict Standards On Yard Sales

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Thu 24 Sep 2009, 12:51:17

deMolay wrote:What I took from the article. Is that they are laying groundwork. The regulation does affect your yardsale legally. It definately does not exempt it. Reminds me of stories of how Stalins Comrades swept out the grain from the granaries in the Ukrainian Famine.


Think about it for a second. The feds can't be bothered going after pot dealers unless they can get them with like a thousand pounds. That's despite the fact that marijuana possession is a federal felony. Do you really think they've got the manpower to go out and scour yard sales for toys with lead in them?
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Re: New Gubmint Policy Strict Standards On Yard Sales

Unread postby Jotapay » Thu 24 Sep 2009, 13:21:33

It's the principle of the matter. The law is overbearing. There are 15,000 recalled items. I'm supposed to know what those are before I sell something? I could be fined millions of dollars fine if prosecuted.

Complacency because it doesn't happen to you is how the Nazis took over. If the Founding Fathers had been complacent, we wouldn't be the only country in the entire world with a Bill of Rights.
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Re: New Gubmint Policy Strict Standards On Yard Sales

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Thu 24 Sep 2009, 13:29:38

Jotapay wrote:Complacency because it doesn't happen to you is how the Nazis took over. If the Founding Fathers had been complacent, we wouldn't be the only country in the entire world with a Bill of Rights.


I can see it now! Crystalnacht II. Angry mobs drag all the yardsalers from their homes in the middle of the night. They're sent off to concentration camps where they're forced to wear arm bands with "Pb" on them. 8O
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Re: New Gubmint Policy Strict Standards On Yard Sales

Unread postby Jotapay » Thu 24 Sep 2009, 13:36:44

I'll repeat it again, just because it doesn't happen to you, doesn't mean it isn't wrong, of course. It's the principle of the matter.

Take for instance, the copyright laws on media. All of us have copied media in our possession. But this woman (link below) was fined $1.9 million for downloading 24 songs. It didn't happen to me. But the law is still draconian and wrong. It is very self-serving and socially selfish to downplay obvious tyranny that can and does happen to people, but not to you.

http://cnnwire.blogs.cnn.com/2009/06/18 ... downloads/
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Re: New Gubmint Policy Strict Standards On Yard Sales

Unread postby Maddog78 » Thu 24 Sep 2009, 13:59:16

Agree. How many people think it's no big deal to smoke a joint now and then?
Ask the thousands who are sitting in jail for it the same thing.
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Re: New Gubmint Policy Strict Standards On Yard Sales

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Thu 24 Sep 2009, 16:03:29

Jotapay wrote:Take for instance, the copyright laws on media. All of us have copied media in our possession. But this woman (link below) was fined $1.9 million for downloading 24 songs. It didn't happen to me. But the law is still draconian and wrong. It is very self-serving and socially selfish to downplay obvious tyranny that can and does happen to people, but not to you.


Yeah. Fair enough. RIAA is evil incarnate. Still, the lead thing doesn't look like it's aimed at yard sellers. Could be a disaster in the making for places like Goodwill though.
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Re: New Gubmint Policy Strict Standards On Yard Sales

Unread postby green_achers » Thu 24 Sep 2009, 17:04:16

OK, there's a law against selling certain unsafe consumer products. Now a regulatory agency says it is just as illegal if the product is used as it is if they are new. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that being used doesn't likely make the product any less unsafe. (Hah! Follow that string of negatives.)

"Resale stores [emphasis added] should make safety their business and check for recalled products and hazards to child."


You're right, brother. Requiring responsibility on the part of retailers. We must stop this socialism.
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