[Cloud9]

This little clip shows us who the chief bankster is.

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/10092009/watch.html

[highlander]

is it "pitchforks and torches" time?

[Jotapay]

If you have 30 minutes and can just listen to the audio, this is an excellent video. It explains how the biggest banks control our country and are stealing money from taxpayers and literally ruining the lives of millions of citizens. They control our country; we do not.

This guy, Bill Moyers, was the speaker at my commencement ceremony at the University of Texas in 2000. He is a UT alumnus too. His speech was excellent.

[gnm]

I second you JP... Definitely a must hear/watch/save transcript and pass around....

-G

[gollum]

What in the hell is it going to take to get the vast majority of the people of this country to demand some accountability from the banksters?

[Jotapay]

He was White House Press Secretary for Johnson etc.

The person who introduced Bill Moyers at my commencement told a short anecdote about him. At a White House dinner, President Johnson asked Bill to say grace. The president couldn't hear grace because Bill wasn't talking very loudly. Johnson barked, "Speak up, Moyers!" Bill replied, "I wasn't talking to you, sir."

[efarmer]

It is pretty obvious that the people who bought our government are going
to use it for themselves and not us, and it is also fairly obvious that the
politicians pretty much thrive in a pimp rich environment and don't seem
to suffer the travails that burden lesser prostitutes.

J6P has got a problem, he needs a big load of government that he
can count on and afford, and he needs it right away.

I can only think of one solution that is timely and to scale:

We need to get Wal Mart to sell Chinese Government at half the
price of American Government and let the free market take care of
this thing...

Even when you find the government to be broken, it will be cheap enough
to where you can just throw it away and buy some fresh, new, stuff.

[Novus]

It is easy to blame these various banks for the crisis and the foreclosures but the real blame is on the Fed Reserve which is a private bank that has stolen the power of the printing press from we the people. Until we take that power back we are nothing but their slaves.

[JohnDenver]

is it "pitchforks and torches" time?

No. Not until people are literally out on the streets and hungry. But I think the Masters will be smarter this time. We (well, not me but everybody else ) will be warehoused in abandoned shopping mall barracks and fed their "three square"--porridge at breakfast, mush for lunch, and a big hearty helping of gruel (with plenty of Textured Vegetable Protein, Hydrogenated Vegetable Oils, and High Fructose Corn Syrup) for dinner!

I can't believe you forgot Quorn(TM).



One calculation suggests that the protein requirements of 1 billion people could be satisfied by a vat protein facility covering only 4 square kilometers of land. (Source: How Many People Can the Earth Support?, Joel E. Cohen, P. 327)

[efarmer]

From the Quorn website:

"A delicious and creative dish to be enjoyed as an appetizer or as one of many tapas nibblies to share with friends and family."

Well it's fungus grown on a high protein media of some sort,
and I have had grilled tempeh and found it OK.

Meh...

And so I guess we won't have Charlton Heston blurting out:

"Tapas Nibblies is people!"

I am OK with Quorn based on this limited rationalization JD,
and I guess you can float your tapas nibblies in miso if you
wish in Japan. I still don't like eating stuff that starts with a Q
but I guess I will get over it.

[hironegro]

banksters? More like the baby boomers.

[Cloud9]

There is a room full of criminals that caused this collapse. They are identifiable. You can indict a generation if you like but by diverting the blame you allow the banksters to escape justice.

[mos6507]

You can indict a generation if you like but by diverting the blame you allow the banksters to escape justice.

Justice won't put humpty dumpty (the economy) back together again. At some point everybody's got to roll up their damn sleeves and get back to work, not just run around with fricken pitchforks looking for someone to crucify.

[Ludi]

Until we take that power back we are nothing but their slaves.

How do you suggest people do that?

[Homesteader]

Until we take that power back we are nothing but their slaves.

How do you suggest people do that?

promise them "change" they can believe in. It's worked before.

Just look how many people are starting to believe that their futures are changeing for the worse.

[mos6507]

Just look how many people are starting to believe that their futures are changeing for the worse.

A little pessimism about the future and a little less irrational exuberance would do people good. I mean, geez, we're only surfing our way through a mass extinction event.

[Pops]

Until we take that power back we are nothing but their slaves.

How do you suggest people do that?

I'd say quit playing their game, drop out of their economy.

But that won't happen because their game is the only one where a person can get all the goodies and no one is willing to do that are they?

P.S. Moyers is my hero.

[hardtootell-2]

Here's a similar discussion on Bank Fraud on Democracy Now!

http://www.democracynow.org/2009/10/15/black

Man there is alot of corruption out there!