[AlexdeLarge]

The impact of this bill will be immediate. It does not even have to go through the senate and become law.

American business, big and small (Even if they were thinking of expanding payrolls in the Obama economic "recovery", ROTFLMAO) will now freeze all hiring and accelerate layoffs. 10.2 % unemployed? Hahahahahahahahha. I think this will soon look like the good ole days!

And the unemployed who won't buy health insurance may face 1 year in jail ! Sweet!!!

Note: This does not apply to you illegal aliens......you still get yours for free!

HopeNchange suckas...........you lost a little more of your freedom on this day of 7 November, 2009.

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
Thomas Jefferson

Sorry Tom. Americans want their MTV and checks for free..................

[timmac]

I beleave in a much better health plan and cheaper cost but our current government can not run it properly and it will cost jobs, jail time for not paying is stupid, it will only work right thru higher tax's and that in it self is not good, however the current way of health cost now is also wrong.

I guess time will tell how this will work but I do beleave the jail time for not paying will stop and mandatory higher tax's will happen.. [ not enough jail spaces and cost will be to high to keep non payers in jail ]

[eastbay]

Hooray!!! About time.

[Ludi]

The impact of this bill will be immediate. It does not even have to go through the senate and become law.

American business, big and small (Even if they were thinking of expanding payrolls in the Obama economic "recovery", ROTFLMAO) will now freeze all hiring and accelerate layoffs.

Is that a Bold Prediction?

[Revi]

I hope we don't turn into one of those horrible places like Sweden or Canada where people don't go bankrupt from medical bills. That would be devastating for the economy.

[kpeavey]

The government has a new set of boots

[Daphne64]

This will have so many unforeseen consequences there is no way to know how it will affect events.

As a guess though, I think it will accelerate the destruction of the dollar (as more dollars will be created to pay for this). That will accelerate the overall crash of the world economy and the beginning of dieoff. I can only view THAT as good, since the sooner dieoff begins, the fewer people will die.

Admittedly, the difference between 4.5 billion people dying off and 4.7 billion isn't going to look that big from a distance. It will make a difference for those people who have one less kid that dies.

That my view from doomer land, anyway.

[smallpoxgirl]

The government has a new set of boots

+1

[Revi]

Really, why so dramatic? The captain of the Titanic has just announced that everyone still on deck gets to have healthcare.

I think it's a great idea.

I wonder if it covers hypothermia?

[mattduke]

1.3 trillion? What happened to 800 billion?

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/10/07/ ... index.html

[timmac]

The health care bill is a good idea, totally at the wrong time, it should have been done 25 years ago during the Ronald Reagan administration when we had a better government and leader..

[Ludi]

The health care bill is a good idea

What about this bill do you think is a good idea, specifically?

[timmac]

Let me rephrase my post, most parts are good, lower cost and health care for all is great, most other stuff is wrong.

However as I said above its totally at the wrong time and it will fail and end up costing this government billions more and tax's will increase to keep billions flowing to the pharmaceutical & medical company executives..

[Denny]

The health care bill is a good idea, totally at the wrong time, it should have been done 25 years ago during the Ronald Reagan administration when we had a better government and leader..

Well, you can't go back and change history. Maybe its like the old saying about retirement savings. For one who is forty years old, wiht no savings it would have been best that they started saving while they were twenty-five, But, given what has been done, the time to start is now.

The over-riding sense of pessimism that looms over this board is at times amazing to behold. Why can't Americans implement something that most of its peers have effected long ago? No good reasons. The tax fear is on a lot of respects jst a shuffle of the economic deck, what you would have paid in direct fees or insurance premiums end up being paid as taxes.

Especially given the current economic state of high unemployment. The fact that those out of work are now not just without a salary but face the specter of total bankruptcy in the event of a severe illness should indicate that the present health funding scheme is a poor one.

[Tyler_JC]

Affordable, high quality, and universal access. Generally you get to pick two if you're lucky, one if you're not.

This bill is expensive and the true cost of the plan is likely to be much higher than is currently projected.

Moreover, there is little guarantee that health care quality will improve for anyone.

To make matters worse, this bill doesn't provide true universal access. Even if all goes according to plan, tens of millions of people will still lack insurance.

Congress attempted to have it all and now we are left with nothing.

[Jotapay]

I lived in Europe for 11 years where there was socialized medicine. It worked very well, IMO. I have nothing against health care reform in this country, we need it. My issue with this legislation is that "reform" only served to take money from citizens and pay it towards doctors in the form of obligatory taxes. It does nothing to reduce out-of-control health care costs, which is what we really need.

This bill has done nothing to reform the system. It only serves to further steal from citizens to prop up a broken system and guarantee that a small segment of society is enriched.

[Rabbit]

So if you don't have insurance they can put you in jail. Well at least you will have health care while you are in jail.

[eastbay]

I don't care what the bill says. And I'm not reading the 2000,00000,00000000 pages of it either. But let me unequivocally state no one is going to jail for failure to pay for medical insurance. That ain't gonna happen. Not in America. No way.

[mattduke]

I don't care what the bill says. And I'm not reading the 2000,00000,00000000 pages of it either. But let me unequivocally state no one is going to jail for failure to pay for medical insurance. That ain't gonna happen. Not in America. No way.

Tasered perhaps?

[rangerone314]

I don't care what the bill says. And I'm not reading the 2000,00000,00000000 pages of it either. But let me unequivocally state no one is going to jail for failure to pay for medical insurance. That ain't gonna happen. Not in America. No way.

If you get in a car accident and are hit by an uninsured driver, who foots the bill for your hospital costs, or are you willing to sacrifice your own life for your ideals and die without treatment?