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Global downturn cushioned peak oil impact/ Aus Gov Adv.

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Global downturn cushioned peak oil impact/ Aus Gov Adv.

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Tue 27 Apr 2010, 12:39:53

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010 ... ion=justin

Global downturn cushioned peak oil impact
By Jeff Waters

Professor Newman blames oil for causing the global recession in the first place. (AFP: Paul J Richards)

Audio: Infrastructure adviser warns of peak oil (PM) Related Story: Oil scarcity has 'snuck up on us', expert says One of the Federal Government's top infrastructure advisers is warning of an oil crunch that could send the global economy spiralling back toward recession.

Curtin University Professor Peter Newman sits on the Government's Infrastructure Australia Council and says peak oil - when demand outstrips dwindling supply - has already hit but that the global downturn has kept prices low.

Professor Newman even blames oil for causing the global recession in the first place, and he is not alone.

It is an issue being taken seriously by some local councils which have drawn up peak oil contingencies.

Proponents of the scenario said the cost of oil and therefore petrol would rise exponentially in the first decade of this century when increasing demand outstripped finite supply.

With oil now hovering at about $US85 a barrel it does not seem to have happened - at least in the original timeframe.

But Professor Newman says the world reached peak oil in 2008 when it spiked at about $140 a barrel and sent petrol prices soaring.

"Peak oil did happen I believe in 2008 and it didn't happen because some oil exporting country had a revolution or something. It just happened because we couldn't produce enough to meet the demand," he said.

Professor Newman largely blames the global financial crisis on oil prices.

"Subprime mortgages were mostly out on the urban fringes miles away from work. People had to drive and when the price of fuel tripled in American cities they couldn't pay their mortgages," he said.

As the global economy has strengthened in recent months so has the oil price, and Professor Newman says it does not bode well for recovery.

"As the demand increases again the supply crunch will happen and the price will go up," he said.


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Professor Kjell Aleklett, the Swedish-based president of the Association for the Study of Peak Oil and Gas, is in agreement with his Australian counterpart.

"The fact is that we are producing less oil now than we did in 2008, so just now we have 2008 as the peak year for peak oil," he said.

Professor Aleklett says he thinks the world will find a way around the problem simply because it will grind to a halt if it does not.

"I'm one of those people that believes that it's not very possible to have a high price of oil because that would mean the end of globalisation," he said.

"The fact is that a price of $200 a barrel... there will not exist an airline industry any longer and we will see problems with airlines in the future."

On the other side of the debate are academics like Dr Vlado Vivoda from the University of South Australia.

"What peak oil theorists miss out on is the fact that with the changes and improvements in our technologies and improvements in a drop in oil production costs, what is considered oil is changing as well," Dr Vivoda said.

"I see the definition of what is exploitable oil changes with the changes in the levels of technological efficiency and with changes in the cost of exploration and production of oil."

The question is whether we will adopt new technologies fast enough.

Some Australian municipal councils have already drawn up peak oil strategies and Professor Newman welcomes big recent federal spending on public transport, but he says he would like to see a full national plan.

"We really do need a national peak oil strategy that can take us through the next two decades of change in our infrastructure requirements," he said.


Sorry Mos.... :mrgreen:
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Re: Global downturn cushioned peak oil impact/ Aus Gov Adv.

Unread postby mos6507 » Tue 27 Apr 2010, 18:51:25

SeaGypsy wrote:Sorry Mos.... :mrgreen:


"Subprime mortgages were mostly out on the urban fringes miles away from work. People had to drive and when the price of fuel tripled in American cities they couldn't pay their mortgages," he said.


This guy is a chemistry professor and a peak oil/sustainability wonk. He is not an economist.

He doesn't know what he's talking about.

THIS is why they couldn't pay their mortgages.

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He's doing what all the other peakers (Rubin being the most notorious) do, which is piggyback peak oil into the debate in order to keep it relevant in the public eye, since everybody only cares about the recession right now.

It's the Church-Lady syndrome.

Could it beeee PEAK OIL?
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No, it couldn't. Maybe next time.
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Re: Global downturn cushioned peak oil impact/ Aus Gov Adv.

Unread postby shortonsense » Tue 27 Apr 2010, 19:03:37

mos6507 wrote:
No, it couldn't. Maybe next time.


next time? NEXT TIME!? NEXT PEAK OIL!!

THANK YOU JESUS....FOR ALLOWING THEM TO SEE!!!!
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