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How the global oil watchdog failed its mission

Unread postby Arthur75 » Wed 19 May 2010, 06:04:01

Post by Lionel Badal on Mathieu Auzanneau blog :

http://petrole.blog.lemonde.fr/2010/05/ ... S-32280322


Note : M Auzanneau is the person that published the interview/mail exchange with Glenn Sweetnam :

http://petrole.blog.lemonde.fr/2010/03/ ... S-32280322

Interview often refered to as "published by Le Monde" although it is not the case (published on his blog hosted by le monde, anybody can get one), and Le Monde not really eager to officialy publish something on this story)

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How the global oil watchdog failed its mission (1/3)

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By Lionel Badal





Part 1 – AN INCONVENIENT REALITY

12 years ago, the International Energy Agency (IEA) discovered that Peak Oil would threaten the prosperity and stability of our societies. Yes, they knew it. While some IEA officials tried to inform the world about this game-changing event, it appears that others had different priorities…

In 1998, the IEA team working on the influential World Energy Outlook (WEO) made a detailed and authoritative assessment about the future of oil production. The team was composed of the world’s finest energy experts, amongst whom Jean-Marie Bourdaire, coordinator of the study, Ken Wigley, Keith Miller and the man who would later become Chief-Economist of the IEA, Dr. Fatih Birol.

By using confidential databases and sophisticated expertise, they reached a dramatic conclusion: Peak Oil, the moment when global oil production starts its irreversible decline, would happen well before 2020, around 2014.

Although the IEA publicly claims to be free of any external meddling, the team was under intense pressure and scrutiny. As recalled by the veteran geologist Dr. Colin Campbell, who advised the IEA on the 1998 WEO, at one point, Bourdaire had to stop calling him from his IEA office as the issue apparently became “so sensitive” that he couldn’t be seen in contact with him.

Formed in the aftermaths of the 1973 oil shock by wealthy countries of the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), the IEA, a self-proclaimed “global oil watchdog”, and its flagship report, the WEO, are considered to be the most authoritative source of information in the energy sector. To put it in the words of the Agency :

“Governments and industry around the world have come to rely on the WEO to provide a consistent basis on which they can formulate policies and design business plans.”

Nevertheless, in 1998, the most influential member of the Agency, the USA, didn’t like at all what was coming from their study. A structural problem with oil as identified by the IEA team would undeniably question the sustainability of the current economic model. During the study, the IEA team realised the extent to which economic growth was correlated to the availability of abundant and cheap energy. Hence, once oil production would stop to grow and tensions appear, economic growth would become far more difficult to sustain, if not impossible. The IEA team was effectively walking on eggshells.

In order to soften the striking message, the IEA added that a “balancing item” called “Unidentified Unconventional Oil” would suddenly appear and rise from nothing in 2010 to 19.1 mb/d in 2020 (conveniently about enough to cancel the shortages…)

The only problem was that unconventional oil resources were well known. This “balancing item” was in reality a code for: shortages. The “balancing item” never existed and never will. A former member of the IEA team in charge of the 1998 WEO confirmed that to me in December 2009 during an interview under Chatham House Rule.

[Interestingly, the Energy Information Administration (EIA), the statistical branch of the US Department of Energy (DOE), will use a similar subterfuge in 2009, when it will talk of “unidentified projects” filling the gap of declining production.]

Fortunately, the story did not end there. Campbell had been in contact with a British environmental expert, Dr. David Fleming, who was by chance a regular contributor to the magazine Prospect. As such, when the 1998 World Energy Outlook was published, Campbell who was fully aware of the message it contained, explained this to Fleming. On the 20th of April 1999, Fleming wrote a prophetic article entitled, “The next oil shock?”. The article effectively said what the IEA team could not write in its report:

“The latest issue of the International Energy Agency’s annual publication, World Energy Outlook, is a case in point. It has a story to tell which will profoundly affect the future of every man and woman on earth…The prospect of a one-way oil price shock early in the next decade changes the present economic and political agenda profoundly. Assumptions of sustained economic growth and low unemployment will be blown out of the water… So why is the IEA not shouting about this ? As the most influential policy body in the oil business, it is in a delicate position. It cannot just blurt it out. It cannot say: ‘We are looking at a big, permanent oil deficit, for which we can offer no solutions’… The IEA has revealed the situation in coded form.”

From its Paris HQ, the IEA had raised a powerful, and yet unwelcomed alarm. A backlash was about to fall on the authors of the 1998 WEO…

Coming next : “How the global oil watchdog failed its mission (2/3) - Part II – THE SHADOW OF THE US”

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Re: How the global oil watchdog failed its mission

Unread postby GoghGoner » Wed 19 May 2010, 08:51:21

I submit the IEA failed because of outside influence.

Top companies by revenues:

1 Royal Dutch Shell Oil and gas
2 ExxonMobil Oil and gas
4 BP plc Oil and gas
5 Total S.A. Oil and gas
7 Chevron Corp. Oil and gas
8 Petrobras Oil and gas
13 Sinopec Oil and gas
16 ConocoPhillips Oil and gas
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Re: How the global oil watchdog failed its mission

Unread postby Arthur75 » Wed 19 May 2010, 09:27:39

GoghGoner wrote:I submit the IEA failed because of outside influence.

Top companies by revenues:

1 Royal Dutch Shell Oil and gas
2 ExxonMobil Oil and gas
4 BP plc Oil and gas
5 Total S.A. Oil and gas
7 Chevron Corp. Oil and gas
8 Petrobras Oil and gas
13 Sinopec Oil and gas
16 ConocoPhillips Oil and gas


Yes, but in a way I wonder if it isn't even more political than that, by that I mean that whether peak oil or not (and the fact that with the IEA the level of the dialog is still "do you believe in peak oil ?" is truly a scandal), so whether peak oil is communicated to the mass or not, oil is still highly valuable, and not sure why the petro companies would feel truly threatened by that, it's more the problem of the whole game sounding sour for the governments to talk about it (without of course forgetting about the foreign policies aspects)
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Re: How the global oil watchdog failed its mission

Unread postby shortonsense » Wed 19 May 2010, 09:41:26

The IEA has the following 4 items listed as to what they stand for:

Energy Security
Environmental Protection
Economic Growth
Engagement Worldwide

Certainly no evidence of "failure" has been presented because they didn't buy into peak oil mythology.
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Re: How the global oil watchdog failed its mission

Unread postby Arthur75 » Wed 19 May 2010, 09:47:05

shortonsense wrote: Its like accusing them of failure because they aren't born again Christians...just because someone buys into a particular belief system doesn't make the OTHER guy wrong when they refuse to go along.


Yeah, to tell the truth I wouldn't call primary school math level basic facts a belief system though, not you ?

However, yes I would call not communicating the reality of known figures for an agency responsible to provide them to governments a major failure, if not a crime.
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Re: How the global oil watchdog failed its mission

Unread postby shortonsense » Wed 19 May 2010, 19:44:03

Arthur75 wrote:However, yes I would call not communicating the reality of known figures for an agency responsible to provide them to governments a major failure, if not a crime.


What reality of known figures? Certainly when the answer involves a belief system rather than the facts involved, it has not much to do with "known figures" any more.

And of course predicting the future incorrectly is more common than not, and certainly does not constitute a crime in any case. Its hardly as though the peak oilers have predicted peak oil correctly, no reason to call their poor predictions a "crime" any more than a government agency which does marginally better...or worse....or simply doesn't care because they don't have the same belief system.
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Re: How the global oil watchdog failed its mission

Unread postby GoghGoner » Wed 19 May 2010, 22:25:51

Arthur,

I think the oil industry is threatened by peak oil. If everybody accepts that oil supplies are going to start declining relatively soon then demand falls rather quickly. How many people would put off buying cars? How many people would invest in airline stocks? How many governments would support light rail? Etc... Demand is rather elastic over a decade or so --> as a wag, twenty percent of the oil consumption could be cut in ten years. I don't know how folks in the auto or airline industry would find jobs, though.
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Re: How the global oil watchdog failed its mission

Unread postby Arthur75 » Thu 20 May 2010, 02:31:25

Gogh,
Yes in fact I think you are right, but as you describe it is much more than the oil industry which is at risk, and in the end quite sad that so many years have been wasted ...

@short
Don't feel like going into one of these long winded discussions, but to me you always mix two things:
1) The concept of peak oil : the basic fact that the the extraction rate of a non renewable finite resource has to go through a maximum.
If you question this no need to continue, if you don't then it is just a matter of time and :
2) Getting data as good as we can about current reserves, current running extraction projects, future projects, etc
And the job of the IEA is about 2) (even if for a long time their predictions were just based on extanding production rates more based on foreseen growth needs). Not releasing the reality of their data doesn't need a belief system, it is just that, not releasing in an explicit way the best data they could gather.
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Re: How the global oil watchdog failed its mission

Unread postby MD » Thu 20 May 2010, 05:17:15

shortonsense wrote:The IEA has the following 4 items listed as to what they stand for:

Energy Security
Environmental Protection
Economic Growth
Engagement Worldwide

Certainly no evidence of "failure" has been presented because they didn't buy into peak oil mythology. Its like accusing them of failure because they aren't born again Christians...just because someone buys into a particular belief system doesn't make the OTHER guy wrong when they refuse to go along.


So many fallacies...so many. Your post has zero value. Please delete it and try again as it's beyond salvage.
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Re: How the global oil watchdog failed its mission

Unread postby shortonsense » Thu 20 May 2010, 09:03:27

Arthur75 wrote:@short
Don't feel like going into one of these long winded discussions, but to me you always mix two things:
1) The concept of peak oil : the basic fact that the the extraction rate of a non renewable finite resource has to go through a maximum.
If you question this no need to continue, if you don't then it is just a matter of time and :


No problems with the basic premise at all. But between the basic premise and some of the more interesting scenarios attached to it is a chasm which does not lend itself to such common agreement.

Arthur75 wrote:2) Getting data as good as we can about current reserves, current running extraction projects, future projects, etc
And the job of the IEA is about 2) (even if for a long time their predictions were just based on extanding production rates more based on foreseen growth needs). Not releasing the reality of their data doesn't need a belief system, it is just that, not releasing in an explicit way the best data they could gather.


Here is the IEA website where they try and explain what they are and what they do.

http://www.iea.org/about/docs/iea2008.pdf

Under subsection "Oil Markets" (because they do quite a bit more than just watch oil) is the following:

"The IEA constantly analyses and monitors short- and medium-term developments on the international oil market to help member governments anticipate and respond promptly and effectively to changes in market conditions. The IEA prepares current oil market assessments from information submitted by IEA member governments, international oil companies and others. Issues covered include: oil exploration and production developments; supply, demand, price and refining trends; OECD stocks; and international trade in crude and products."

I don't see anything related to data collection, other than they get their information from host countries.

Here is a list of member countries.

http://www.iea.org/country/index.asp

Notice that the IEA doesn't provide their service for ALL countries? And the countries it doesn't include happen to be like the entire Middle East and Russia? While their NAME might include the word "International", they certainly don't look all that international when it comes to where the actual oil is. Certainly Canada is the only real country to matter, based on reserves and such. Without Iraq, Iran, Saudi, Russia and Venezuela on that list, its obvious that the member countries really don't have all that much oil.
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Re: How the global oil watchdog failed its mission

Unread postby Arthur75 » Thu 20 May 2010, 12:25:44

shortonsense wrote:I don't see anything related to data collection, other than they get their information from host countries.

Here is a list of member countries.

http://www.iea.org/country/index.asp

Notice that the IEA doesn't provide their service for ALL countries? And the countries it doesn't include happen to be like the entire Middle East and Russia? While their NAME might include the word "International", they certainly don't look all that international when it comes to where the actual oil is. Certainly Canada is the only real country to matter, based on reserves and such. Without Iraq, Iran, Saudi, Russia and Venezuela on that list, its obvious that the member countries really don't have all that much oil.


lol, ok :)
Somehow, I see "The IEA prepares current oil market assessments from information submitted by IEA member governments, international oil companies and others. etc " exactly as a gathering data mission, and not only about the member countries of course, besides the fact that producing assessments on the oil market without taking into account the biggest producers doesn't mean much.

The member countries are the requesters of the reports, the ones that agreed further to the 73 oil shock, to set up and fund the agency in order to gather forces on energy market assessments, and help them in defining their policies, but of course the members countries do not define the perimeter which the agency (and the reports) are studying.

And in fact you can see the IEA as an "OECD club" in front of the OPEC club and Russia, as a "response" to the 73 shock started by OPEC.
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Re: How the global oil watchdog failed its mission

Unread postby shortonsense » Thu 20 May 2010, 14:11:28

Arthur75 wrote:Somehow, I see "The IEA prepares current oil market assessments from information submitted by IEA member governments, international oil companies and others. etc " exactly as a gathering data mission, and not only about the member countries of course, besides the fact that producing assessments on the oil market without taking into account the biggest producers doesn't mean much.


Sure...the IEA runs around, asks its member countries for information, reads the BP review just like all of us do, and then does it shuck and jive based on whatever its most recent assumptions are. I can ask you for a million dollars just like they can ask ARAMCO about Ghawar....wanna bet the answer is the same?

I think they are "assessment writers", not data gathers. Did you find any reference anywhere that they even buy the IHS information, often referred to as the best available?

Arthur75 wrote:The member countries are the requesters of the reports, the ones that agreed further to the 73 oil shock, to set up and fund the agency in order to gather forces on energy market assessments, and help them in defining their policies, but of course the members countries do not define the perimeter which the agency (and the reports) are studying.

And in fact you can see the IEA as an "OECD club" in front of the OPEC club and Russia, as a "response" to the 73 shock started by OPEC.


Sure. Doesn't mean they have any corner on the data market though. Those of us who were around for that peak oil remember them being created, the EIA came into existence around then for the same reasons. Want to bet that the IEA asks them for data just like us Peakers do? And they get the same stuff?
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Re: How the global oil watchdog failed its mission

Unread postby Arthur75 » Thu 20 May 2010, 14:38:57

I don't know what a peaker is, sos, sorry
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Re: How the global oil watchdog failed its mission

Unread postby shortonsense » Thu 20 May 2010, 22:03:27

Arthur75 wrote:I don't know what a peaker is, sos, sorry


Well, a peaker isn't a Doomer certainly. I would describe peakers as those who, understanding the basics of Hubberts theory, test his idea against all sorts of production rates, stuff like coal and natural gas and oil and such.
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Re: How the global oil watchdog failed its mission

Unread postby shortonsense » Thu 20 May 2010, 23:29:53

Arthur75 wrote:Part 2 has been posted :

http://petrole.blog.lemonde.fr/2010/05/ ... mission-23


Interesting. But you must realize, one of the giveaways for people with an agenda is to blame the USGS for being the same sort of conspiratorial, lying, politically motivated organization as....oh.... the US Senate. Of course, they never reference any other global study which provided the same sort of information, done to that level of detail and transparency. Not one. They simply say, "the optimistic USGS" without a comparison to any other organization doing the same thing.
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Re: How the global oil watchdog failed its mission

Unread postby Arthur75 » Fri 21 May 2010, 00:09:57

Who are you refering to with "people with an agenda" ?
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Re: How the global oil watchdog failed its mission

Unread postby shortonsense » Fri 21 May 2010, 23:03:21

Arthur75 wrote:Who are you refering to with "people with an agenda" ?


Anyone with an agenda of course.

They are quite common in this debate, from all sorts of angles. Political, economic and social, doom agenda's, climate, anti people and anti immigrants, anti consumer, anti American, anti government, anti IRS, sales and subscription agenda's (peak profiteers just make me want to grind my teeth). The topic is a veritable cesspool of ulterior motives.
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Re: How the global oil watchdog failed its mission

Unread postby Homesteader » Sat 22 May 2010, 01:07:52

pstarr wrote:
shortonsense wrote:
Arthur75 wrote:Who are you refering to with "people with an agenda" ?


Anyone with an agenda of course.

They are quite common in this debate, from all sorts of angles. Political, (Shorty--centrist BAU BS) economic and social (Shorty--petite bourgeois class traitor ), doom agenda's(Shorty--idiot denialist), climate(Shorty--AGW denier), anti people and anti immigrants(Shorty--enlightenment backtracker), anti consumer(Shorty--earth-raping #sswipe), anti American(Shorty--clueless apologist for a violent empire), anti government, anti IRS(Shorty--right for once), sales and subscription agenda's (peak profiteers just make me want to grind my teeth)(Shorty--commie). The topic is a veritable cesspool of ulterior motives.(Shorty--pointless masochistic debunker )


LOL! pstarr, that is the post of the month!
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