Maybe we should start a UFO thread
We already have a number of alien contributors, of both in insecta, and reptilian varieties.
Maybe we should start a UFO thread
I have been interested in last years admission by the US government that there exists a body of credible UFO sightings that appear to transcend the laws of physics as we commonly understand them.
At this point our physics is rather incomplete. It works well enough in the Newtonian world we inhabit, and explains some other aspects of our observable world, but we are forced to invent things (dark gravity, dark matter, universal constants) to “fudge” things into order.
Lest us say, very broadly, our human existence occupies 4 dimension, 4 types by of energy/matter relationships +time.
But it could simply indicate some parallel existence where we have only partially overlapping physics laws.
INXS wrote:"The purpose of science is to investigate the unexplained, NOT explain the uninvestigated." ~~~Dr. Stanton L. Friedman, Nuclear Physicist & UFO Researcher~~~
UFO Skeptics/Debunkers....NEWS FLASH
Those paying attention to the subject now know that for the first time the US military via the US Navy presented extensive pilot video evidence, pilot cockpit recordings, and corroborating pilot/naval vessel radar reports of UFOs flying at speeds and performing maneuvers contrary to our understanding of what is physically possible. A number of pilots and co-pilots, with permission of the military, have conducted interviews that are available on YouTube and other sites. The military even admitted to the existence of an official UFO research and analysis department at the Pentagon (don't recall official name).
Happy holidays to all!!!!
INXS wrote:How refreshing to realize the censor police purge commentary that fails to align with the controlling overlord's belief system. The following comment was too inflammatory to let stand, lol.
"The purpose of science is to investigate the unexplained, NOT explain the uninvestigated~~Dr. Stanton L. Friedman, Nuclear Physicist and UFO Researcher~~
INXS wrote:The US Military has reversed its position on the existence of UFOs aka Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAPs) by the Pentagon. Multiple reports by experienced Navy pilots corroborated by radar, video, infrared, confirm the existence of unidentified physical vehicles that possess flight characteristics contrary to our understanding of what is possible. Interviews with veteran Navy pilots are available for review by the debunkers and deniers. Or is the Department of Defense lying?
AdamB wrote:INXS wrote:How refreshing to realize the censor police purge commentary that fails to align with the controlling overlord's belief system. The following comment was too inflammatory to let stand, lol.
"The purpose of science is to investigate the unexplained, NOT explain the uninvestigated~~Dr. Stanton L. Friedman, Nuclear Physicist and UFO Researcher~~
So...who might YOUR overlords be? This guy?INXS wrote:The US Military has reversed its position on the existence of UFOs aka Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAPs) by the Pentagon. Multiple reports by experienced Navy pilots corroborated by radar, video, infrared, confirm the existence of unidentified physical vehicles that possess flight characteristics contrary to our understanding of what is possible. Interviews with veteran Navy pilots are available for review by the debunkers and deniers. Or is the Department of Defense lying?
Or are UFO folks are likely to see UFOs circling their house on a nightly basis, regardless of whether or not they are aliens, or just figments of their imagination?
careinke wrote:Having ACTUAL experience in this subject, I got to say Adam is off base on this. I would expand on this, but I have no idea what is still classified and what isn't.
careinke wrote:I can say when we used to get UFO reports, we would tell the caller the Air Force is no longer tracking UFO's (as we passed the info on to the Navy). I always thought that was a clever ploy.
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careinke wrote:Having actual experience with this topic in an Air Defense sort of way, I am glad this stuff is being declassified and released. It taught me as a young 2nd Lt, that even classified documents/log books can be altered.
Governments have no qualms about lying to their subjects, especially if they can profit from it.
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Outcast_Searcher wrote: the "UFO's are real ....." crowd doesn't bother to MENTION the trickery like playing games with filters to induce "convincing evidence" via special effects, etc.
Outcast_Searcher wrote:careinke wrote:Having actual experience with this topic in an Air Defense sort of way, I am glad this stuff is being declassified and released. It taught me as a young 2nd Lt, that even classified documents/log books can be altered.
Governments have no qualms about lying to their subjects, especially if they can profit from it.
Peace
So UFO's (with intelligent aliens flying them) exist, but are only known to certain government folks, for whatever conspiracy theory reasons?
It's interesting to me that as computer tech and photographic tech advances, that we now have various videos on Youtube, for example, supposedly proving UFO's "clearly" being flown by aliens, exist, re fighter jet footage, etc.
But then debunkers point out things like using various filters to show the videos that make things look RADICALLY different than they are re motion, for example, and OF COURSE, the "UFO's are real and common" crowd doesn't bother to MENTION the trickery like playing games with filters to induce "convincing evidence" via special effects, etc.
At some point the extent of the contortions the true believers go through to try to be convincing looks a lot like flat earth arguments, Covid vaccines are wildly dangerous and completely ineffective arguments, etc.
Oh, and yes, clearly governments lie. That's no more evidence that UFO's re the alien flying type are seen a lot by the air force, etc, than any other conspiracy theory.
careinke wrote:Wow, you have an amazing imagination, that's quite a yarn you spun.
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AdamB wrote:careinke wrote:Wow, you have an amazing imagination, that's quite a yarn you spun.
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Plants more elaborate form of talkative trolling is different than most, isn't it?
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