[Shar_Lamagne]

Take from the rich and give to the poor.

I'll bet if the masses realized that that was what the Socialist Agenda was, there would all of a sudden be a lot of Socialists.

After all most of the people are poor, there is no such thing as the middle class. That's a myth created by the rich to get the better off poor to be on their side.

Go Robin Hood!

[dsula]

After all most of the people are poor, there is no such thing as the middle class. That's a myth created by the rich to get the better off poor to be on their side.

hahahaha

[Pretorian]

Take from the rich and give to the poor.

So how much will it be total and what the poor will be doing with it? Most likely the absolute majority of the poor will piss and shit it out in a matter of days, possibly weeks, and what then? Who will be paying taxes to maintain countless legions of the useless lumpenized plebs? The poor?

[Shar_Lamagne]

Why should the useless rich have it?

Time to Share the Wealth, bucko!

[dsula]

Why should the useless rich have it?

Because, they took risk, worked hard, started a business, didn't take vacations, nor week-ends off. Worked harder, were smarter, better, tougher. That's why.

[Shar_Lamagne]

Nonsense.

Because they groveled before their family. Licked boots to ensure they inherited. Carried on the tradition of harvesting the wealth from those less powerful, because the vast majority could not stand against them.

Either that, or grovel, take your allowance and stay out of the way.

I know because I've been there, am there. Time for the veil to be pulled aside.

We don't work hard. You are talking about the better off poor. Also, there is no risk. We control the game.

If you are working hard, you are definitely not smarter of better. You are working to create something for us to take, to pay your tribute.

[Plantagenet]

I don't see how Robin Hood is a socialist. After all, he is fighting the government because the taxes are too high and the laws are unfair and the government is taking away people's land. Robin Hood opposes the unfair taxes so he steals the tax money from the government and gives it back to the people.



Doesn't that make evil Prince John and the Sheiff of Nottingham the leftist socialists and Robin Hood kind of an anti-tax activist who opposes big government?

[dorlomin]

Doesn't that make evil Prince John and the Sheiff of Nottingham the leftist socialists ...

A socialist Plantagenet now that is bloody unlikely even for John Lackland.


Especialy for that coniving cur John Lackland.

Though Churchill famously quipped
"When the long tally is added, it will be seen that the British nation and the English-speaking world owe far more to the vices of John than to the labours of virtuous sovereigns"



(Edited: actualy WSC was a bit harsh on Henry II there.....)

[Shar_Lamagne]

The governments of the world are no more than middle management. Bought and sold for a pitance.

How many in the Australian Government or the US for that matter has better than $100 million.

Please. What a waste of time that would be to actually be one, when you can own most of them.

[Plantagenet]

Doesn't that make evil Prince John and the Sheiff of Nottingham the leftist socialists ...

A socialist Plantagenet now that is bloody unlikely even for John Lackland.


Especialy for that coniving cur John Lackland.

Though Churchill famously quipped
"When the long tally is added, it will be seen that the British nation and the English-speaking world owe far more to the vices of John than to the labours of virtuous sovereigns"



(Edited: actualy WSC was a bit harsh on Henry II there.....)

You know how it is in families....the public personae that the world knows doesn't always match the reality that the family knows.

--I do like the Churchill quote.

[Shar_Lamagne]

Doesn't that make evil Prince John and the Sheiff of Nottingham the leftist socialists ...

Only leftists collect taxes? Hardly. You collect taxes or you are gone, right or left.

Besides, taxes are not the biggest take by a long shot. Taxes are just collected to run the machine that does the harvesting.

Like I said, right or left, you are, what do you call the slave that holds the whip over the other slaves? That.

[Pretorian]

SHar, there were no rich family or even a clan that didnt end up in ruin, pennieless and powerless. Or extinct for that matter. So no worries, your family will be there too.
Better tell us how much dough you would be handing out to those poor if you werent kicked out.

PS Poor people live in Australia? hahahahahahaha

[Shar_Lamagne]

Wrong. True wealth, and thus true power, has very deep roots. The House of Lancaster continues to this day despite the House of York making it to London first.

Kicked out? No one escapes.

[americandream]

The same class paying taxes to maintain countless legiosn of the useless failed bourgeoisie and their opportunistic leeching backstops on the Far Right pretend national socialist cum corporate buttboys.

Take from the rich and give to the poor.

So how much will it be total and what the poor will be doing with it? Most likely the absolute majority of the poor will piss and shit it out in a matter of days, possibly weeks, and what then? Who will be paying taxes to maintain countless legions of the useless lumpenized plebs? The poor?

[Pretorian]

Wrong. True wealth, and thus true power, has very deep roots. The House of Lancaster continues to this day despite the House of York making it to London first.

what are you talking about it went extinct well over 500 years ago. Better luck with the next example

[Cid_Yama]

The Lancaster inheritance, known as the Duchy of Lancaster, has remained in English and then British Royal ownership, with monarchs bearing the title Duke of Lancaster. In 2007, the Duchy was valued at £397 million pounds, and the profits are the primary source of the Monarch's income.

[americandream]

An education at one of the select English public schools would soon put to rest the fallacy that the British Empire and its Republican Protectorates are things of the past.

[Cid_Yama]

The elder line of Capet became extinct with the death of Charles IV in 1328. The next eldest line, the house of Valois died out with Henry III in 1589. That left the house of Bourbon as the senior line of Capet. Juan Carlos is directly descended from the grandson of Louis XIV, who became Philip V, the first Bourbon King of Spain. The French descendants of Louis XIV of Bourbon ended with the Count of Chambord who died in 1883. The current claimants to the French throne are of the house of Bourbon-Orleans, descended from the younger brother of Louis XIV.
"King Juan Carlos is the heir male of Hugh Capet, who ascended the French throne in 987, a line of decent not easily equaled"

The Grimaldis of Monaco are the oldest unbroken royal family since Francois Grimaldi in 1297.

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I think you started something here, Pretorian.

Why are we doing this again?

Oh, yeah, Shar said:

True wealth, and thus true power, has very deep roots.

I would think that would be pretty obvious. My own family traces back to the 1500's with 4 of them on the Mayflower. If not for a rope trailing behind the Mayflower during a storm at sea, John Howland would have been lost and I would not exist. Nor any of the following notables.

John and Elizabeth Howland's direct descendants include notable figures such as U.S. presidents Franklin D. Roosevelt, George H. W. Bush, and George W. Bush; U.S. first ladies Edith Roosevelt and Barbara Bush; poets Ralph Waldo Emerson and Henry Wadsworth Longfellow; Mormon prophet and founder of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Joseph Smith, Jr. and his wife Emma Hale; Mormon leader Brigham Young; Continental Congress president Nathaniel Gorham; former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin; former Florida governor Jeb Bush; and actors/actresses Humphrey Bogart, Maude Adams, Lillian Russell, Chevy Chase and Anthony Perkins. U.S. presidents Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford, and British prime minister Winston Churchill are descendants of John Howland's brothers Arthur (Nixon and Ford) and Henry (Churchill).

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If not for that rope trailing behind the Mayflower on that stormy night, the history of the United States would have been very different.

"In sundrie of these storms the winds were so feirce. & ye seas so high, as they could not heare a knote of saile, but were forced to hull, for diverce days togither. And in one of them, as they thus lay at hull, in a mighty storme, a lusty yonge man (called John Howland) coming upon some occasion above ye grattings, was, with a seele of ye shipe throwne into (ye) sea; but it pleased God yet he caught hold of ye top-saile halliards, which hung over board, & rane out at length; yet he held his hould (though he was sundrie fadomes under water) till he was hald up by ye same rope to ye brime of ye water, and then with a boat hooke & other means got into ye shipe againe. & his life saved; and though he was something ill with it, yet he lived many years after, and became a profitable member both in church and common wealthe."

[timmac]

You know I really like people that think the rich should have their money confiscated and giving to the lazy, I don't care if the rich work hard for it or inherited it, its theirs and thats it, taking from them is stealing...

Shar_Lamagne you need to get a life,, Here is a vid from a great leader that speaks about socialism and taking from the rich, listen to it and learn something, and go to work if you want $$$...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gIxuOabGBE

[Shar_Lamagne]

Worm,

I already have your money. Because of the businesses we are engaged in and the investments we have, and the control we exert over the system, you are fleeced every day.

And you defend it as a "free" market. Yeah, free for me.

You are worried someone might give some to the starving and homeless, while we pick your pocket in broad daylight.

It's stupid people like you that keep the masses from rising up and taking it back and change the system.

Good dog, here's a treat.