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Words from a deep water rig hand

Unread postby Maddog78 » Thu 17 Jun 2010, 11:07:20

This should generate some interesting responses on this forum.

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I am dependent on Ultra-Deepwater Drilling for my income. The shutdown of Ultra-Deepwater Drilling is an unfair attack on the petroleum industry. British Petroleum Americas (B.P.) failure to perform their drilling operation in a safe manner is your issue. We as an industry are aware of the many B.P. failures on the Transocean Deepwater Horizon. The 11 Men that lost their lives are our brothers. Unsafe well practices by B.P. must be investigated. The root cause is a failure to resolve a poor primary cement job. B.P. had knowledge that the primary cement job had failed; their continued operation was unsafe. As the operator the men on the Deepwater Horizon trusted that B.P. would work safe. Federal government shares cause for allowing B.P. to continue to operate in the United States. B.P. has numerous safety failures and violation of Federal and industry standards.

As Ultra-Deepwater Drillers we demand safety at our work sites. Exploration Drilling is dangerous work. Each day we confront danger by using safe work practices. These work practices are a standard for our industry that we as workers demand. Government only steps in when they can make profit from our labor. Government safety standards require bribes by corporate raiders who also steal our labor.

When we die in helicopters there are no memorials. When we burn to death there is no green peace outrage. If we drown in frigid waters there is no Presidential visit with our families. When we lose a leg, arm, hand or foot government does not shut down for a single second. Media does not visit men that cannot stand straight because of failed backs from the heavy lifting required in our jobs. We shut down operations when someone is hurt. We perform safety stand downs to prove our work can continue forward safely. We pre task each operation to ensure safety. We observe each other as a natural part of our work to keep each other safe. Government does not keep me or my workmates safe we do it because we care about each other. We know what a wife goes through when a husband is lost. We have raised children of lost work mates. We are brothers. We are Teams of men that provide oil and gas to America.

Oil field workers hear the garbage of those who don’t have a clue what our families deal with each day. When we miss the first steps of our children do you care? When we leave women to take care of a household by their selves do you care? Our loved ones die and we are on a rig hundreds of miles away do you care? Hurricanes enter the gulf and we are stuck offshore do you care? When we see friends burn to death do you care? When we are clear that a company has killed our fellow workers do you care?

Environmentalists, Politicians and Corporate fat cats have never produced one single barrel of oil. You regulate my labor. You tax my labor. You steal the blood of good men Standards for my labor require me to pass test (urine test, breath test, HUET) before I am allowed on the job site. Yet you give my dollars to those who are never tested. You feed America our bloods labor. What can any of you produce that is of value to this nation? Each of you is a parasite on the backs of Americans and workers. You fly around the globe on jets fueled by our labor. You drive your armed motorcades on fuel that we provide you. Your natural gas heaters are fueled with our blood. When you talk about alternative energy you slap our face for all we have given you. You are Al Gore whining pigs at a plastic trough that we provided you. You are Hollywood millionaires that don’t provide anything of value. Scream about clean energy while driving and flying around the globe.

Each person in government that allowed the President to shut down Ultra-Deepwater Exploration failed working men in women. B.P. will never meet the needs of our families. Lawyers with law firms will turn this case into a class action law suit that will line their pockets. Blood money paid for by Oil Workers. We have just given 11 brothers to the effort of providing a nation with oil and gas. Politicians now repay us with unemployment. I am a proud American Oil Worker. I am not proud of the thieves that are destructing the American Oil Workers way of life. Shame on Politicians and those you work with.

When you shut down our work you only bring pain to the innocent. You need to understand we are not union workers with a hand out. We have invented and built an industry that provides America with tools for independence. Oil Workers understand pain, we learn from every mistake that spills a drop of our blood. When you hurt one of us; we will bring pain to your political dream world. Wake up Washington when you shut down our rigs you solve nothing. You are creating a burden on hard working men and women. We will not allow your destruction of our work efforts. Your lies about caring for our safety are wasted words. We know more about safety then the corporate giant B.P. Your efforts should be to control B.P. and their created oil spill. While America screams at the environmental cost, remember your liability. Not one Oil Worker gave B.P. permission to drill. Not one Oil Worker overlooked the B.P. failures of the past. The men on the Deepwater Horizon knew something was wrong. Failed negative test were a clear indication that the drilling fluid should not be displaced. B.P. knew they failed to bump their cement plug on the casing cement job. It should be investigated how much they over displaced the cement. B.P. made the decision not run a cement bond log. Each of you must look at real facts Blow Out Preventers are well named; they are not Blow Out Stoppers. Follow safety practices that don’t allow blow-outs. B.P. allowed this blow-out to take place.

Stopping the blow out in deep water is the lesson we are all watching. How did B.P. fail to turn back with key indications that the well was flowing? All the signs were given; concerns were raised by members of the Horizon crews. B.P. acted with an arrogant disregard for human life and safety. B.P. deserves punishment for their disregard. We have already started implementing testing to verify we will not have another Horizon incident. We have cried at the loss of our brothers. Shame is not ours. America may hate us and what we do; because we are painted as bad men. After 20 years of success the speculation that we are men with no concern for our environment is out of line. We are not the millionaire C.E.O.’s that we work for. We are men with families that trust us to earn a living at a dangerous job. Each hitch offshore we work to return all crew members to their loved ones. Every man that does this work cares about his nation. Your failure to allow us to make America energy independent is recorded for history to judge. You have sold out your nation; not the Ultra-Deepwater Drill Crews.

Trust that we will not stand-by idle as you destroy our work. We are not some union wimps that rely on government assistance. You keep us out of work for 6 months; watch the power that will join the Tea Party Movement. We are men that shaped and built this industry with blood and sweat. We will engineer a massive shut down of your permit to wreck lives. Someone should investigate who is making profit on this spill. Check the ties to the Obama Administration. One word- NALCO

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Re: Words from a deep water rig hand

Unread postby KevO » Thu 17 Jun 2010, 11:15:14

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Re: Words from a deep water rig hand

Unread postby Ibon » Thu 17 Jun 2010, 11:45:18

To polarized. To angry. Not enough nuanced to hold my attention.
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Re: Words from a deep water rig hand

Unread postby Plantagenet » Thu 17 Jun 2010, 12:12:24

The drillers count on the federal regulators to inspect the rigs for safety and to set the regulations so that drilling can be done safely and in a way as to minimize the risk of spills. The government failed on both counts with BP and the Deepwater Horizon. The MMS failed to do the required inspections and gave BP exemptions from safety regulations and environmental laws.

You can hardly blame the drillers and rig hands for being angry when the same government that failed to watch out for their safety or the environment then takes away their jobs.
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Re: Words from a deep water rig hand

Unread postby Plantagenet » Thu 17 Jun 2010, 12:33:15

Hi Pstarr:

What part of "safety regulations" do you not understand? :roll:
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Re: Words from a deep water rig hand

Unread postby Dreamtwister » Thu 17 Jun 2010, 12:54:20

Plantagenet wrote:Hi Pstarr:

What part of "safety regulations" do you not understand? :roll:


The part where you are asking for more government regulation.
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Re: Words from a deep water rig hand

Unread postby efarmer » Thu 17 Jun 2010, 13:39:42

I believe it is obvious that the MMS was turned into a rubber stamp body, it is also obvious that the case can be made that the government did not accrue the expertise to keep up with deep water technology in order to do the job if they really intended to do so. Our government has collectively failed under both parties to have an energy policy commensurate with the threat energy supply poses in national security and societal longevity and they have defaulted to allowing high risk and reward private enterprise to save their bacon while they argue intractable philosophical differences and joust for power at the peril of their own nation.

The problem of allowing investors to control the government is that they wish for it to be there to backstop them in crisis just like the citizens they have out lobbied to gain government control,
and a large part of their effort is to prevent the knowledge of what they are doing or what the associated risks are in order to maximize profits and freedom to pursue risk.

The knowledge to drill in deep water is shared by a handful of private companies and they could in theory form a system to police themselves to protect their common interests if not for having to keep their methodology and data secret to compete with each other. They could have picked Halliburton or
Schlumberger as their own well cop agency and then let the MMS be either a rubber stamp or if the political party in power wished, learn how things work and follow along.

Plantagenet, do you think Halliburton would be better at policing deep water rigs for the industry and acting as an MMS liason or serving chow in Bagdad and Kabul?
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Re: Words from a deep water rig hand

Unread postby Maddog78 » Thu 17 Jun 2010, 13:59:32

pstarr wrote:I didn't bother to read the piece because I knew what it would be about. You think it is funny playing people off against each other? Starting fights in the playground? This situation is way too tragic to makes fun of. You should just shut your mouth and slink away.

Someone needs to kick your ass.



You think he was trying to be funny?
11 of his colleagues died.
If people here want to make fun of him, which is their right, then I want to hear why.
They certainly don't have to but you seem to think it will be an automatic reaction.
The only one I see here starting a fight is you.
I put this up because I agree with much of what he has to say. Plenty of wells were drilled without problems.
BP tried to cut corners and the entire industry is now paying the price, including the labourers.
I can only hope that what is left of the industry after this is regulated in a safe and efficient manner.

Kick my ass, ha, another internet tough guy.
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Re: Words from a deep water rig hand

Unread postby Maddog78 » Thu 17 Jun 2010, 14:07:16

efarmer wrote:I believe it is obvious that the MMS was turned into a rubber stamp body, it is also obvious that the case can be made that the government did not accrue the expertise to keep up with deep water technology in order to do the job if they really intended to do so. Our government has collectively failed under both parties to have an energy policy commensurate with the threat energy supply poses in national security and societal longevity and they have defaulted to allowing high risk and reward private enterprise to save their bacon while they argue intractable philosophical differences and joust for power at the peril of their own nation.

The problem of allowing investors to control the government is that they wish for it to be there to backstop them in crisis just like the citizens they have out lobbied to gain government control,
and a large part of their effort is to prevent the knowledge of what they are doing or what the associated risks are in order to maximize profits and freedom to pursue risk.

The knowledge to drill in deep water is shared by a handful of private companies and they could in theory form a system to police themselves to protect their common interests if not for having to keep their methodology and data secret to compete with each other. They could have picked Halliburton or
Schlumberger as their own well cop agency and then let the MMS be either a rubber stamp or if the political party in power wished, learn how things work and follow along.

Plantagenet, do you think Halliburton would be better at policing deep water rigs for the industry and acting as an MMS liason or serving chow in Bagdad and Kabul?



Another good post, efarmer. I don't know right now exactly what the best answer is for regulation but I know putting a female Washington lawyer in charge who had probably only seen a picture of a rig was a huge mistake and I said as much back when her appointment was made.

btw, the Halliburton owned company serving chow is KBR and they are not really related at all to the original oilfield Halliburton but you probably knew that.
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Re: Words from a deep water rig hand

Unread postby Dreamtwister » Thu 17 Jun 2010, 14:23:30

Maddog78 wrote:I'm 6' 1" weigh 225lbs. and can bench 240lbs.


It's amazing just how many people on the internet fit that description!

I mean this is me right here, and I totally didn't just rip this picture off the internet or anything!
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Re: Words from a deep water rig hand

Unread postby Pops » Thu 17 Jun 2010, 14:31:28

Milt is an OK guy, his heart is in the right place, he's just had his brain Dittofied.
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He's made 20 posts to his blog in the last 2 months (with lots of "god blessing") but this is the first mention of the Leak, mostly its about anti hate-violence legislation, socialism and stuff. Last year he made a good post talking about how different people have different beliefs, some even don't believe in God and by the good graces of the Believers and the Constitution that is OK. But I think Rush and Beck have got him straightened out now.

It really makes me feel bad that patriotic guys like Milt get their emotions played like a piano by the type of people who dreamed up the Willey Horton ad for the purpose of, I don't know, control, money, spite, lower taxes/less regulation?

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Re: Words from a deep water rig hand

Unread postby Plantagenet » Thu 17 Jun 2010, 14:33:46

efarmer wrote:Plantagenet, do you think Halliburton would be better at policing deep water rigs for the industry and acting as an MMS liason


The government is the only player with the authority and power to make oil companies toe the line on safety and environmental laws. The government already has specific agencies---the MMS and the EPA---to promulgate and enforce safety regs and environmental laws. But these agencies still have to actually do their jobs.

The tragedy in this case is that, as Maddog points out, the Obama administration in 2008 appointed a Ms. Birnbaum, a liberal lawyer and democratic party activist with ivy league credentials and PC views but zero experience with rigs, to manage the MMS. Obviously Ms. Birbaum was so busy going on bird-watching trips that she failed to direct her agency to make real safety inspections instead of faking things, and to enforce environmental laws and safety regs as she should have, allowing BP to then push things to the breaking point, and as a result we have a huge ongoing catastrophe to deal with.
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Re: Words from a deep water rig hand

Unread postby Maddog78 » Thu 17 Jun 2010, 14:34:34

Dreamtwister,

Haha, OK fair enough. :lol:
I'm not black.
I bet that guy in your pic can bench a lot more than 240, probably well over 300.

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Re: Words from a deep water rig hand

Unread postby Maddog78 » Thu 17 Jun 2010, 14:45:57

Pops wrote:Milt is an OK guy, his heart is in the right place, he's just had his brain Dittofied.



Appreciate the background, Pops. I had not heard of him before.
It's another one of those emails that is being sent around amongst oilfield people and inevitably ended up in my box.
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Re: Words from a deep water rig hand

Unread postby Fiddlerdave » Thu 17 Jun 2010, 16:43:50

You need to understand we are not union workers with a hand out.
We understand quite well that you are ready and willing to do or lie about anything your employer tells you to to keep a job, assuming you are really a worker.

If BP were union, workers may have had more ability to bring pressure on BP for their unsafe and insane practices. You should give it a try rather than spreading Propaganda about union members "having their hand out".

BTW, it is YOU "having your hand out", you wish your high-paying work regardless of what it costs the taxpayers, your neighbors, your country or your planet. How does it feel?
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Re: Words from a deep water rig hand

Unread postby Pops » Thu 17 Jun 2010, 16:48:03

Maddog78 wrote:Appreciate the background, Pops. I had not heard of him before.

Me either, I just got that impression reading his other posts.
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Re: Words from a deep water rig hand

Unread postby evilgenius » Thu 17 Jun 2010, 16:48:52

VMax! At one time I wanted one of those really bad.

The worker's complaints don't sound any different than mine, except that his life is at stake more than mine is (not that mine isn't). I am an independent contractor in today's America. That means I ought to be employed for real, but the government lets business get away with murder.
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