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Deliberate imposition of a regional peak oil event

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Deliberate imposition of a regional peak oil event

Unread postby ONeil » Sat 19 Jun 2010, 00:47:20

What if your leaders decided to forcibly reduce your society's consumption of oil?

http://www.cfr.org/publication/22413/re ... ption.html
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Re: Deliberate imposition of a regional peak oil event

Unread postby Rod_Cloutier » Sat 19 Jun 2010, 08:51:36

What IF Iran attacked Israel leading to a suspension of oil supplies?

What IF extraterrestrials landed and gave us faster than light space technologies?

What If ___________ (You fill in the blank) happened?

The real concern for the world, and our daily lives is "WHAT IS".

Literally anything could happen in the future, dealing with 'What is' is all we can really do and hope for. 'What if' is always unknowable.
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Re: Deliberate imposition of a regional peak oil event

Unread postby ONeil » Sat 19 Jun 2010, 13:33:16

Ok Repent.

The council of foreign relations is a think tank that sets policy for the elected officials of the United States of America. Listen to Hillary Clinton describe the relationship with the CFR. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... &aid=14439

The link that started this thread leaves the impression that the decision makers in the CFR have decided you are consuming too much oil and are planning to put you on a diet.

Putting this in the form of a question was just a gentle way of presenting the information to you. Seeing as how you have thicker skin than that and you seem able to deal with reality, let me ask another question.

Are you going to be a good little slave and allow your owners to deliberately impose shortages upon your society? What are you going to do about it?
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Re: Deliberate imposition of a regional peak oil event

Unread postby efarmer » Sat 19 Jun 2010, 14:27:17

Not sure where you are coming from, it is THE petroleum, some of it is ours, some of it is theirs for sale and some of it is theirs and not for sale and some of it is presently not worth the effort to obtain due the cost of production or perhaps the risk involved. Ours is not enough to run society the way we have to date and wish to continue doing to without some of theirs and perhaps a way of not using as much of ours or theirs.

We have conservative think tanks who think we will be able to offer our form of government to people who do not seem to be able to accept it and then buy their petroleum on friendly terms, we have hawkish think tanks who seem to see it as petroleum for the conqueror, and then we have various lines of thought from voluntary transition to government guided transition.

Almost all of the viewpoints can use an identifiable organized human foes as the required enemy they are fighting valiantly against instead of the resource limit of inexpensive petroleum supply.

My opinion is that we are going to try all the ploys until the supply is limited globally and then figure out what to do next. Do you have a foe and a ploy that you think works better than others or a completely different take on the whole scenario?
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Re: Deliberate imposition of a regional peak oil event

Unread postby Pops » Sun 20 Jun 2010, 15:49:27

ONeil wrote:What if your leaders decided to forcibly reduce your society's consumption of oil?

I think any of the ideas raised would be a good start, better to wean off than go cold turkey.

But, lets face it, leaders are only representatives of their various constituents, and most of the constituents would rather whine about taxes, send poor kids to war and keep on driving.

Right?
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Re: Deliberate imposition of a regional peak oil event

Unread postby dolanbaker » Sun 20 Jun 2010, 16:10:11

It was attempted in the UK and almost ended up in a total shutdown of the country.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_prote ... ed_Kingdom

The fuel protests in the United Kingdom were a series of campaigns held in the United Kingdom over the cost of petrol and diesel for road vehicle use. There have been three notable campaigns amongst many other protests in the 21st century. The first protest in 2000 was primarily led by lorry drivers and farmers. Blockades of oil facilities caused widespread disruption to the supply of petroleum products with knock on effects for the public and the authorities, as well as causing a reduction in popularity for the incumbent government. The aim of the protests was to secure a reduction in the fuel duty rate on petrol and diesel, which the government refused to enact. After the protest ended, the government did announce a freezing of fuel duties, and promised changes would be made to the way that goods vehicles were taxed which would include the taxing of foreign vehicles operating on British roads. Subsequent protests have not had as significant an impact, but did result in some panic buying in 2005. The 2007 protests were not widely supported nor did they cause any disruption.
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Re: Deliberate imposition of a regional peak oil event

Unread postby ian807 » Sun 20 Jun 2010, 16:46:23

I have to admit that after reading the article, my first thought was this:
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070526081820/uncyclopedia/images/1/15/CaptainobviousChooseOption.jpg

Move to electric transportation? Well, duh! Glad all these well educated fellows are making good use of their degrees. Makes me wonder why I bothered with one.
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