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Peak Oil: How Supply Crunch Can Lead to Lower Prices

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Peak Oil: How Supply Crunch Can Lead to Lower Prices

Unread postby Graeme » Thu 05 Aug 2010, 17:59:03

Peak Oil: How Supply Crunch Can Lead to Lower Prices (for a while!)

There seems to be an on-going debate among peak oilers and many economists as to which came first, the chicken (peak supply flow) or the egg (peak demand). The first is attributed to the classical peak oil theory that when about half of the oil in the ground is pumped out, extraction rates start to go into deceleration and eventually peak, thereafter going into decline. The oil price spike of 2009 was quickly interpreted in this vein, the price of oil reflecting the fact that peak had come at last and oil was just going to get more expensive with declining supplies. There were dire fears that oil at that price would trigger a recession, which seems to have been the case. But then the price fell precipitously leading other analysts to conclude that the spike might have been an anomaly set off by speculation and that the subsequent reduction in oil flow rates was due to demand destruction owing to the effects of a global recession.

The problem with these kinds of interpretations is that they often look for a prime cause in a linear chain of cause and effect. In this case the prime cause would have been peak oil and all else follows. A general truth behind this explanation is that oil is depleting and will indeed, if not already, become so expensive, both in monetary and energy terms, to extract that our production rates will begin to decline and less and less oil will flow over time. But the economic system that is dependent on oil is far more complex and no linear model can really explain what we have been witnessing in terms of oil prices and economic activity (the general so-called health of the economy).


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Re: Peak Oil: How Supply Crunch Can Lead to Lower Prices

Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Thu 05 Aug 2010, 20:12:36

This is why it is (IMO) so blindingly obvious that some kind of intelligent tax policy in the U.S., to (at least) set some kind of minimum price for crude would help in so many ways.

Producers AND users would have more knowledge of what oil products would really cost. And producers of green alternatives would at least have SOME kind of confidence in what sort of minimum price they would have to compete with.

This seems to have worked out really well for the old freon used in air conditioning, for example. It helped people make an environmentally rational choice as their old A/C systems got old and leaky.

Yes, I know this would be difficult for some folks, like the poor, but steering them towards more intelligent decisions like taking a bus, driving a Yaris, riding a bike, carpooling, etc. would be better than making the day when the hammer comes painfully down just come sooner by encouraging overconsumption with each economic downturn.

But no -- we must re-elect the incumbants who form our "brilliant" (lack of) energy policy in the good ol' U.S.A. so those folks flatly refuse to do anything J6P might not like in the near term.
Given the track record of the perma-doomer blogs, I wouldn't bet a fast crash doomer's money on their predictions.
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