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The End of Western Freedom

Unread postby evgeny » Thu 16 Sep 2010, 12:04:16

Police have even established units for routine police spying and infiltration of environmental protest groups. Britain has become an Orwellian police state with Big Brother video surveillance on every corner, and where all political dissent against the socio-economic status quo is suppressed. Much like the US that has established a police state that spies on peace groups that dare to protest against America’s aggressive imperialist wars

http://www.sublimeoblivion.com/2010/09/15/end-of-western-freedom/
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Re: The End of Western Freedom

Unread postby efarmer » Thu 16 Sep 2010, 13:36:40

Well Evgeny,
Governments have pretty much always poked and sniffed around almost every sort of opposition or
major activity of domestic life according to their ability to do so, which is of course increasing in
the modern era. Being from Russia, you should be aware that it is not the snooping which is so bad,
it is what the state does based on the information they obtain.

On that point, I would much rather be an American than Russian or Chinese citizen on an open
ended basis.

I am heartened to see that your nation is improving, as you are able to freely post on western
forums without fearing for your life or liberty (I hope).
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Re: The End of Western Freedom

Unread postby the48thronin » Sat 18 Sep 2010, 21:24:23

According to an article published in Der Spiegel magazine this month, a German military think tank report strategically leaked online warns that peak oil will occur soon "and that the impact on security is expected to be felt 15 to 30 years later". Peak oil, according to the report, could threaten democracy, creating "room for ideological and extremist alternatives to existing forms of government". It says this could "in extreme cases lead to open conflict".

It also warns of market failures, huge tax rises, food shortages and widespread rationing. Oil is used in producing 95 per cent of industrial goods, so the report predicts price shocks right through the supply chain. "In the medium term, the global economic system and every market-oriented national economy would collapse,'' it says.

The Germans also warn of a shift away from a market economy. It's back to central planning.


the article the above quote is taken from is actually about

Acting on the looming oil crisis could give politicians the political cover they need to move on global warming.

PEAK oil and climate change are on parallel paths. Both are inextricably linked and can only be solved together, requiring a shift away from a reliance on fossil fuels into what is now called the "post-carbon economy". For Prime Minister Julia Gillard's climate change committee, peak oil is an inconvenient truth, and BHP Billiton chief executive Marius Kloppers's call for a carbon price and tax tells us something needs to be done soon.


http://www.theage.com.au/business/peak-oil-and-climate-must-be-tackled-in-tandem-20100916-15esa.html
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Re: The End of Western Freedom

Unread postby evgeny » Tue 21 Sep 2010, 19:22:51

efarmer wrote:Well Evgeny,
Governments have pretty much always poked and sniffed around almost every sort of opposition or
major activity of domestic life according to their ability to do so, which is of course increasing in
the modern era. Being from Russia, you should be aware that it is not the snooping which is so bad,
it is what the state does based on the information they obtain.

On that point, I would much rather be an American than Russian or Chinese citizen on an open
ended basis.

I am heartened to see that your nation is improving, as you are able to freely post on western
forums without fearing for your life or liberty (I hope).


US Media and Israeli Military
All in the Family


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Re: The End of Western Freedom

Unread postby efarmer » Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:10:51

Yes Evgeny, American Jews may have family in the IDF and also work in media related jobs as well.
This is not hidden information here and like many American close allies, America is kinder to Israel in our media than impartial in many cases. If you are not discerning and rely on only one or two news sources, you may not get enough breadth of news to drive the truest picture of things. This is very easy to do on the Internet. I assume you use competing bias news sources to find common truths as well?
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Re: The End of Western Freedom

Unread postby evgeny » Thu 30 Sep 2010, 12:01:26

Children in Europe will become homosexuals in elementary school

Recently, Mayor of Amsterdam Netherlands Eberhard van der Laan urged to teach children the basics of homosexual starting from elementary school. Although the mayor "Sin City" has repeatedly called on to use the education system to promote same-sex love, but has now decided to engage in it already and primary school. Calling himself "a fanatic on this issue," Eberhard van der Laan believes that such an educational measure raise public tolerance for sexual minorities.

If you call a spade a spade, the mayor of Amsterdam in essence calling for a promotion of homosexuality and lesbian relationships children have 7-8-9 years, ie before puberty. Among the main values that should develop in the rising generation of new methods of sex education, van der Laan include the following: "We need to teach children that in the Netherlands normally, when two men go hand in hand down to the street."
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Re: The End of Western Freedom

Unread postby Ludi » Thu 30 Sep 2010, 14:42:54

evgeny wrote:Eberhard van der Laan believes that such an educational measure raise public tolerance for sexual minorities.



And the problem with tolerance is - what?
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Re: The End of Western Freedom

Unread postby evgeny » Fri 08 Oct 2010, 10:34:10

Privacy and civil liberties activists in the United States are crying foul as the government begins to encroach on the Internet and raid the homes of anti-war activists.

The Obama Administration is reportedly trying to make it easier for federal authorities to intercept communications over the internet via social networks, Skype and mobile devices. The new regulations would require Internet companies to design their products with a built in backdoor that would allow the government to intercept messages and unscramble encrypted information, the New York Times reported.

And, earlier this month the FBI raided the homes of a number of anti-war activists in Chicago and Minneapolis, claiming they were seeking evidence of terrorist activity.

Radio host Alex Jones said that the government’s focus is not terrorists abroad, but activists at home in the US.

http://rt.com/Top_News/2010-09-29/civil ... urity.html
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Re: The End of Western Freedom

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Fri 08 Oct 2010, 10:42:44

evgeny wrote:Although the mayor "Sin City" has repeatedly called on to use the education system to promote same-sex love, but has now decided to engage in it already and primary school. Calling himself "a fanatic on this issue," Eberhard van der Laan believes that such an educational measure raise public tolerance for sexual minorities.

And this might be his major mistake.
Once general population feels pressed to become homosexuals, the outcome might take a form of anti-homosexual Cristal Night.
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Re: The End of Western Freedom

Unread postby Lore » Fri 08 Oct 2010, 10:44:21

evgeny wrote:Privacy and civil liberties activists in the United States are crying foul as the government begins to encroach on the Internet and raid the homes of anti-war activists.

The Obama Administration is reportedly trying to make it easier for federal authorities to intercept communications over the internet via social networks, Skype and mobile devices. The new regulations would require Internet companies to design their products with a built in backdoor that would allow the government to intercept messages and unscramble encrypted information, the New York Times reported.

And, earlier this month the FBI raided the homes of a number of anti-war activists in Chicago and Minneapolis, claiming they were seeking evidence of terrorist activity.

Radio host Alex Jones said that the government’s focus is not terrorists abroad, but activists at home in the US.

http://rt.com/Top_News/2010-09-29/civil ... urity.html



Alex Jones is a conspiratorial nut ball. Please listen for entertainment purposes only. You should do a look up on the history behind the actions of J. Edgar Hoover, for a period when there was a real invasion of privacy.
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Re: The End of Western Freedom

Unread postby dorlomin » Sun 10 Oct 2010, 16:18:28

evgeny wrote:Police have even established units for routine police spying and infiltration of environmental protest groups.
Yeah they have been established for decades.
evgeny wrote:and where all political dissent against the socio-economic status quo is suppressed.
compaired to what, the 70s and 80s, no. It is worst than the 90s but far far better than the 70s and 80s
evgeny wrote:Much like the US that has established a police state that spies on peace groups that dare to protest against America’s aggressive imperialist wars
most of the focus is on animal rights, the far right and Islamists. The police do try with the leftists but its too low a priority and the budget cuts are coming.

You have not a clue what you are talking about.
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