[KevO]

peak oil gone viral on you tube - though I suggest watching it with your eyes closed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAPf9V3_li0

[Sixstrings]

Wow this is brilliant marketing. What I wonder though is who's behind this????????

It's way too polished for this to really be coming from an attractive young woman -- I get the impression this is an actress hired to "vlog" on youtube. But hired by whom?

Everything she says is uber doomer though.. like "if you don't live near a farm, then no food for you." She's in line with all the hardcore doomer views, so it can't be a mainstream oil group behind this.

But if she is coming up with all this on her own, very impressive.

EDIT: Oh this is great, my favorite line:

"So what can you do about peak oil? Nothing, seriously, nothing. It's too late for cheery myths."

[Sixstrings]

I googled "oilycassandra." There's definitely another individual or some group behind this; there's a myspace page setup with the same pink theme, and also a website: http://www.oilrelease.com/

On the website, there's a link to LATOC. Again, it's brilliant marketing and I approve the message -- but I think they should be honest and upfront about what person or group is behind this marketing campaign.

[DoomersUnite]

peak oil gone viral on you tube - though I suggest watching it with your eyes closed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAPf9V3_li0

Its an old video. And peak oil isn't going viral because of it.

[Pretorian]

Why bother selling it anyway? Adsense income?

[mos6507]

Its an old video. And peak oil isn't going viral because of it.

Yes, it's ancient. A few doomers happen to be good looking chicks. She just happens to be one of them.

Here's another.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj5qgfQj-co

[Sixstrings]

Yes, it's ancient.

I just looked at the date.. 2007. This is old news, I feel rickrolled.

I still wonder who's behind it.. their website is still up (so somebody's been paying the bill the last 3 years).

[mos6507]

I still wonder who's behind it.. their website is still up (so somebody's been paying the bill the last 3 years).

What makes you think she couldn't do all this herself? You think it's prohibitive to put up a youtube video and a low-traffic website?

[KevO]

Yes, it's ancient.

I just looked at the date.. 2007. This is old news, I feel rickrolled.
.

well its not really old news is it?
the vid might be. The only difference is that we are now three years nearer to that doom she warns about and what have we done?

sweet F.A

and what will we do?

fall off a cliff

[Sixstrings]

What makes you think she couldn't do all this herself? You think it's prohibitive to put up a youtube video and a low-traffic website?

Just a hunch. She doesn't have many videos. If this were an amateur vlogging, there would be more vids and the amateurs tend to ramble on about all kind of things. Youtubers who aren't paid actors tend to talk A LOT and make a lot of videos. And the script is way too polished, sounds like a team produced it not just one pretty young girl in pink.

And then the website.. kind of mysterious there, like an unfinished project. If it were personal and not a group behind it, the site would have more stuff on it and a more personal feel.

And in the videos she says "we" not I, one part of the other video she says "send us your ideas" but doesn't say who "us" is. Anyhow I could be wrong, just smells like viral marketing to me.

[DoomersUnite]

Yes, it's ancient.

I just looked at the date.. 2007. This is old news, I feel rickrolled.
.

well its not really old news is it?

Nope. Peak oil happened years ago now and we're all still here, posting away, pretending that old videos are new videos because why? Maybe our goldfish attention spans means we won't recognize the rinse and repeat nature of this thing? I got an idea! Lets declare peak oil all over again and pretend it will mean something this time!!

[Sixstrings]

Nope. Peak oil happened years ago now and we're all still here, posting away, pretending that old videos are new videos because why?

Ok I'll admit it. This has happened to me a few times.. I see some piece of doomer news and almost come close to posting it then I notice it's 8 years old or something. And then I think ok, if the sky didn't fall back then why do I care right now?

But slowly, gradually, things are falling apart. Like the frog in the boiling water that doesn't notice cuz it's so gradual. Everything that's been going on since '08, the whole resource-influenced financial crisis, has been a new chapter. There was no doom on this scale back in '06, '05, '04.

[mos6507]

And in the videos she says "we" not I, one part of the other video she says "send us your ideas" but doesn't say who "us" is. Anyhow I could be wrong, just smells like viral marketing to me.

We could be a couple of college buddies for all you know. If you're so curious why don't you send her a PM on youtube?

[mos6507]

the whole resource-influenced financial crisis, has been a new chapter. There was no doom on this scale back in '06, '05, '04.

The dominant peak oil meme is empty store shelves and mutant zombie bikers, not currency wars and 99ers.

Nobody predicted things to play out like this, that we'd be in a housing-collapse-induced depression while oil prices remain below a critical pain threshold. This is uncharted territory and will remain hard to predict even after we fall off the production plateau.

That won't stop many here from offering their "bold" predictions. But the world is a complicated place that can not be summed up solely through The Oil Drum's charts.

[DoomersUnite]

But slowly, gradually, things are falling apart. Like the frog in the boiling water that doesn't notice cuz it's so gradual.

In part thats because the definition of "falling apart" has changed. Back in the old days, it was assumed that peak oil would force certain issues, lack of fuels would cause prioritization of use, hitting regular consumers with rationing, shortages, skyrocketing prices from which there was no escape, the downfall of sports which relied on fuel, travel which relied on fuel, etc etc.

Then peak oil happened, those things didn't happen, and the consequences of peak were reconfigured to look like....an economic recession. Which had the convenience of hindsight( recession started 2 quarters before the 2008 price spike), but unfortunately an obvious cause which didn't happen to be peak oil. But we hope people don't notice that one, right?

So now, as we continue to grind our way through the arduous task of working off several bubbles here in the US, any little piece can be localized on and claimed as a peak oil effect. The recent QE for example, leads straight to a lower standard of living for some as their paychecks do not keep up with the price inflation of imported goods or commodities, effectively deflating the value of the excessive debt. And a problem for those companies which cannot raise prices, they get hit in the margin. Some will go out of business. And none of this is a surprise, or a consequence of peak oil.

[Crazy_Dad]

So now, as we continue to grind our way through the arduous task of working off several bubbles here in the US, any little piece can be localized on and claimed as a peak oil effect. The recent QE for example, leads straight to a lower standard of living for some as their paychecks do not keep up with the price inflation of imported goods or commodities, effectively deflating the value of the excessive debt. And a problem for those companies which cannot raise prices, they get hit in the margin. Some will go out of business. And none of this is a surprise, or a consequence of peak oil.

It is not just the USA which will feel this. There are many people in Australia feeling the same effects.
It's like the earthquake happened in the USA. The Tsunami will everywhere else a bit later.

[Sixstrings]

And a problem for those companies which cannot raise prices, they get hit in the margin. Some will go out of business. And none of this is a surprise, or a consequence of peak oil.

That's what I don't understand about the Republicans.. they don't seem to realize that if you just tell half the country to go get lost and eat cake no-soup-for-you, then a LOT of small businesses also go under. And then more banks, and on up the foodchain in a massive deflationary cascade.

[Xenophobe]

That's what I don't understand about the Republicans.. they don't seem to realize that if you just tell half the country to go get lost and eat cake no-soup-for-you, then a LOT of small businesses also go under. And then more banks, and on up the foodchain in a massive deflationary cascade.

After Bens announcement this week, it doesn't seem that deflationary cycles are the concern?

http://forums.silentcountry.com/forums/ ... flation%94

[dolanbaker]

After Bens announcement this week, it doesn't seem that deflationary cycles are the concern?

Printing money is the supposed (cure) for deflation, how else do they keep the bubbles inflated and the money flowing into their pockets! Just how big can they actually blow them before TSHTF.