Sixstrings wrote:Was wondering the other day.. it seems like all our discussion is about peak oil as it pertains to energy -- but what about all the other things oil is used for? Plastics, pesticides, pharmaceuticals, the list goes on and on.
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vtsnowedin wrote:8) Take a look at this chart from the EIA.
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pet_p ... _pct_m.htm
Considering the percentage of oil consumption that is used in this category I would think that this is one of the last questions we will have to answer. What to replace highway and home heating fuel with is the first thing we need to be looking at.
pstarr wrote:
Ludi wrote:vtsnowedin wrote:8) Take a look at this chart from the EIA.
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pet_p ... _pct_m.htm
Considering the percentage of oil consumption that is used in this category I would think that this is one of the last questions we will have to answer. What to replace highway and home heating fuel with is the first thing we need to be looking at.
Yep, it's just a non-issue really. Our way of life will be so devastated by expensive and/or non-existent heating and transport oil products we won't be thinking of all the other products. There will be only the most basic economy, so only the most basic of products will be needed or wanted. Nobody will be making modern products like pharmaceuticals or esoteric polymers because there will be no way for anyone to afford them. I suppose it's possible there might be a few wealthy pockets of people having these products made for them, but most of us will have to do without.
In my opinion.
vtsnowedin wrote:8) Take a look at this chart from the EIA.
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pet_p ... _pct_m.htm
Considering the percentage of oil consumption that is used in this category I would think that this is one of the last questions we will have to answer. What to replace highway and home heating fuel with is the first thing we need to be looking at.
Sixstrings wrote:vtsnowedin wrote:8) Take a look at this chart from the EIA.
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pet_p ... _pct_m.htm
Considering the percentage of oil consumption that is used in this category I would think that this is one of the last questions we will have to answer. What to replace highway and home heating fuel with is the first thing we need to be looking at.
Huh.. so all the vast quantities of plastic and other "Miscellaneous" petroleum products only amounts to .5% of our oil use? That surprises me.. we have a *lot* of plastic in the world, and yet it's insignificant compared to what we burn for fuel.
vtsnowedin wrote: Could you not cut your driving by half if needed? couldn't any American if given a while to make the necessary adjustments.
Ludi wrote:vtsnowedin wrote: Could you not cut your driving by half if needed? couldn't any American if given a while to make the necessary adjustments.
I have my doubts about "any American." I don't commute to a job. I could cut my driving to one trip a month. But I kind of doubt most Americans work at home. And aside from that, my work is dependent on a lot of other people driving around.
Haven't we talked about this a whole bunch on this board already? That our economy is based on people driving around? A lot? I'm not talking about "the end of the world" so don't jerkishly use that strawman. I'm talking about the end of the economy. I can't remember what you do for paying work, so maybe you will be fine. Maybe you'll even be fine with no paying work at all. But ya know I kinda think most Americans depend on their jobs for their survival. Last I looked we didn't have a Sharing Economy in which things like food,clothing,shelter and pharmaceuticals were magically distributed to everyone for free (although I know some conservatives seem to believe in this magic Welfare State, it actually doesn't exist).
grump
...Lack of petrol meant the end of the war and the end of the Third Reich.
http://fossil.energy.gov/aboutus/histor ... story.html
http://www.americanforeignrelations.com ... power.html
steam_cannon wrote: But the biggest elephant in the room is "oil as fuel" since that's what it's mainly used for and the lifeblood that keeps society moving.
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