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Poor Soil In Need Of Horse Manure

Unread postby Homesteader » Wed 15 Dec 2010, 19:44:32

Per Newfie. . . .
The thread to dump off-topic horse manure.
A virtual compost pile of cr*p from the orifices of shills and trolls.
Let them discuss their POV's here to their hearts content.
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Re: Poor Soil In Need Of Horse Manure

Unread postby mos6507 » Wed 15 Dec 2010, 20:20:00

If used as intended, soon to become the biggest and most active thread on peakoil.com.

Can we make sure all the "Obama spilled mustard on his tie and that proves he's the antichrist" crap here too, BTW?
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Re: Poor Soil In Need Of Horse Manure

Unread postby Homesteader » Thu 16 Dec 2010, 01:25:42

"Political Science" aside, politics by definition is opinions, and opinions change.

Climate Science and geologic peak in oil production and the consequences thereof are surely more evidence-based, yes?

Religious texts have not changed in centuries. Science textbooks require updating all the time. One is based on beliefs, one is based on evidence, which evolves over time.
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Re: Poor Soil In Need Of Horse Manure

Unread postby careinke » Thu 16 Dec 2010, 02:06:41

Before I opened the thread, I was wondering why this was not in the planning for the future thread.
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Re: Poor Soil In Need Of Horse Manure

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Thu 16 Dec 2010, 03:00:09

careinke wrote:Before I opened the thread, I was wondering why this was not in the planning for the future thread.

I thought he was asking for donations.
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Re: Poor Soil In Need Of Horse Manure

Unread postby pedalling_faster » Thu 16 Dec 2010, 07:51:12

mos6507 wrote:If used as intended, soon to become the biggest and most active thread on peakoil.com.

Can we make sure all the "Obama spilled mustard on his tie and that proves he's the antichrist" crap here too, BTW?


where are self-lobotomized people who believe in the official US government conspiracy theories supposed to post ?
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Re: Poor Soil In Need Of Horse Manure

Unread postby SpringCreekFarm » Thu 16 Dec 2010, 08:54:24

Darn...I was thinking someone was going to discuss the merits of using horse manure on hard clay soil, which I can personally vouch for being a superior soil amendment. :P
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Re: Poor Soil In Need Of Horse Manure

Unread postby Fishman » Thu 16 Dec 2010, 09:42:37

Darn it, I was going to post the superiority of biochar over manure here, and Mos beats me with his arguement for manure.
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Re: Poor Soil In Need Of Horse Manure

Unread postby mos6507 » Thu 16 Dec 2010, 10:22:15

pedalling_faster wrote:where are self-lobotomized people who believe in the official US government conspiracy theories supposed to post ?


Please, why don't you bring up 911, FEMA camps, and "Iran cable cut"? Mix a little tinfoil in with the manure.
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Re: Poor Soil In Need Of Horse Manure

Unread postby vision-master » Thu 16 Dec 2010, 10:24:34

Homesteader wrote:"Political Science" aside, politics by definition is opinions, and opinions change.

Climate Science and geologic peak in oil production and the consequences thereof are surely more evidence-based, yes?

Religious texts have not changed in centuries. Science textbooks require updating all the time. One is based on beliefs, one is based on evidence, which evolves over time.


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Re: Poor Soil In Need Of Horse Manure

Unread postby careinke » Thu 16 Dec 2010, 17:08:06

mos6507 wrote:
pedalling_faster wrote:where are self-lobotomized people who believe in the official US government conspiracy theories supposed to post ?


Please, why don't you bring up 911, FEMA camps, and "Iran cable cut"? Mix a little tinfoil in with the manure.


I like the one about Cheney and Koch secretly brainwashing and funding the Tea Party. Or the one about how the Republicans are able to stop the democratic agenda even when the Dems had the Presidency, and dominated the House and Senate.
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Re: Poor Soil In Need Of Horse Manure

Unread postby mos6507 » Thu 16 Dec 2010, 20:11:23

careinke wrote:Koch secretly brainwashing and funding the Tea Party


It's not so secret. If you think that's tinfoil, take it up with New Yorker magazine. As opposed to, let's say, Popular Mechanics, which did a good job debunking 911 trooth fairies.

careinke wrote:Or the one about how the Republicans are able to stop the democratic agenda even when the Dems had the Presidency, and dominated the House and Senate.


It's called a voter revolt, not tinfoil.
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Re: Poor Soil In Need Of Horse Manure

Unread postby Ludi » Thu 16 Dec 2010, 20:16:44

mos6507 wrote:
careinke wrote:Koch secretly brainwashing and funding the Tea Party


It's not so secret. If you think that's tinfoil, take it up with New Yorker magazine.



It's important to not believe in things we don't like, like the Tea Party being funded by billionaire corporatists. It just can't be real. :(

Go Tea Party!

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/29/opini ... .html?_r=1
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Re: Poor Soil In Need Of Horse Manure

Unread postby careinke » Thu 16 Dec 2010, 20:59:19

Ludi wrote:
mos6507 wrote:
careinke wrote:Koch secretly brainwashing and funding the Tea Party


It's not so secret. If you think that's tinfoil, take it up with New Yorker magazine.



It's important to not believe in things we don't like, like the Tea Party being funded by billionaire corporatists. It just can't be real. :(

Go Tea Party!

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/29/opini ... .html?_r=1


There is a reason your link is on the opinion page.
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Re: Poor Soil In Need Of Horse Manure

Unread postby Homesteader » Thu 16 Dec 2010, 21:22:20

:-D This is working most excellently!
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Re: Poor Soil In Need Of Horse Manure

Unread postby Puddnhead » Thu 16 Dec 2010, 21:57:46

Fishman wrote:Darn it, I was going to post the superiority of biochar over manure here, and Mos beats me with his arguement for manure.


I think you are actually supposed to add biochar to manure or compost. The biochar provides a matrix for all the microorganisms in the manure.
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Re: Poor Soil In Need Of Horse Manure

Unread postby Shar_Lamagne » Fri 17 Dec 2010, 00:51:01

There's plenty of it over on the Denialist Shills thread where rockdoc and shortonsense (sorry, xenophobe) are even taking a squat themselves. :lol:
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Re: Poor Soil In Need Of Horse Manure

Unread postby steam_cannon » Fri 17 Dec 2010, 00:55:47

Puddnhead wrote:
Fishman wrote:Darn it, I was going to post the superiority of biochar over manure here, and Mos beats me with his arguement for manure.

I think you are actually supposed to add biochar to manure or compost. The biochar provides a matrix for all the microorganisms in the manure.
That's what I've heard too. You get better first year yields if you have conditioned the biochar a bit first by mixing it with compost and letting it degrade before adding it to the soil. Adding it directly into soil can possibly raise the ph for a little while which can change your soil conditions.

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Re: Poor Soil In Need Of Horse Manure

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Fri 17 Dec 2010, 01:00:38

mos6507 wrote:
pedalling_faster wrote:where are self-lobotomized people who believe in the official US government conspiracy theories supposed to post ?


Please, why don't you bring up 911 ...

He said: "the official US government conspiracy theories" . :P
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Re: Poor Soil In Need Of Horse Manure

Unread postby steam_cannon » Fri 17 Dec 2010, 01:14:40

A virtual compost pile of cr*p from the orifices of shills and trolls.
We definitely need a compost pile... :-D

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