[Novus]

It would be a nightmare scenario if the people of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia turned against its' ruling elite. This where we enter the realm of world wide doomer porn with oil prices doubling over night quickly followed by a massive 9 MBPD shortage. They say it couldn't happen. If you asked a few days ago the media talking heads would have told you Egypt would never fall like Tunisia. It couldn't happen to Egypt but it happened none the less. It has been said that Egypt is the heart and soul of the Arab world and where Egypt goes the rest of the middle East goes as well. Arab nationalism was born in Egypt and Egypt's cultural influence throughout the middle East is huge. So if the rest of the middle East particularly the KSA decides to go off the deep end we will be in for a world of hurt.

Got doom? Be ready for it.

[Wren]

It looks like Lebanon is next.

[SeaGypsy]

Been a while since any real people power action went on. Olduvai wasn't meant to be boring.

[Homesteader]

It looks like Lebanon is next.

Maybe Syria or Jordan

[eXpat]

It looks like Lebanon is next.

Maybe Syria or Jordan

Syria shut down Internet already
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/next-domino-syria-shuts-down-internet-service

[eXpat]

It looks like Lebanon is next.

Maybe Syria or Jordan

And Jordan is about there too:
Thousands protest in Jordan for a better Life

Thousands of people in Jordan have taken to the streets in protests, demanding the country's prime minister step down, and the government curb rising prices, inflation and unemployment.

In the third consecutive Friday of protests, about 3,500 opposition activists from Jordan's main Islamist opposition group, trade unions and leftist organisations gathered in the capital, waving colourful banners reading: "Send the corrupt guys to court".

The crowd denounced Samir Rifai's, the prime minister, and his unpopular policies.

Many shouted: "Rifai go away, prices are on fire and so are the Jordanians.''

Another 2,500 people also took to the streets in six other cities across the country after the noon prayers. Those protests also called for Rifai's ouster.

Members of the Islamic Action Front, the political wing of the Muslim Brotherhood and Jordan's largest opposition party, swelled the ranks of the demonstrators, massing outside the al-Husseini mosque in Amman and filling the downtown streets with their prayer lines.

King Abdullah has promised some reforms, particularly on a controversial election law. But many believe it is unlikely he will bow to demands for the election of the prime minister and Cabinet officials, traditionally appointed by the king.

Rifai also announced a $550 million package of new subsidies in the last two weeks for fuel and staple products like rice, sugar, livestock and liquefied gas used for heating and cooking. It also includes a raise for civil servants and security personnel.

However, Jordan's economy continues to struggle, weighed down by a record deficit of $2bn this year.

http://first-news.blogspot.com/2011/01/thousands-protest-in-jordan-for-better.html

[eXpat]

Edited for incorrect post

[eXpat]

They know it has to be stopped
Saudi king vows support for Mubarak

Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah ensures Mohamed Hosni Mubarak of his support amid nationwide protests against the Egyptian president's three-decade-long rule.

In a Saturday telephone conversation with Mubarak, Abdullah Ibn Abdulaziz Al Saud described the popular movements as "tampering with Egypt's security and stability in the name of freedom of expression,” AFP reported.

On Saturday, protesters took to the streets for the fifth-straight day. At least 100 people were reportedly killed during the crackdown by the security forces, which were earlier reinforced by tank battalions and Army soldiers.

The entire cabinet has resigned and a curfew has been extended in three cities of Cairo, Suez and Alexandria.

Talking to Abdullah, however, Mubarak claimed that “the situation is stable” and alleged that the outraged public was seeking “to achieve strange and suspicious objectives.”

Unfazed by the countrywide unease, the Egyptian head of state has promised political and economic reforms, but has not mentioned anything on relaxing his grip on power.

http://edition.presstv.ir/detail/162593.html

[nobodypanic]

according to al jezeera :

... sources in the Egyptian Embassy in Tel Aviv, Israel is making preparations to welcome Hosni Mubarak into exile after Saudi Arabia rejected overtures.

http://aljazeera.com/news/articles/39/Mubaraks-planning-exile-to-Tel-Aviv.html

[eXpat]

Saudi Stock Exchange Plummets 6%

Not many exchanges are open on Saturday. But the one that matters in a contagionary light sure was. And the drubbing it took was not pretty. "Saudi Arabia's stock exchange tumbled by over 6 percent on Saturday, setting the stage for other regional markets to drop as concerns mounted about the violent protests in Egypt. The Tadawul All Shares Index fell 6.44 percent to close at 6,267 points. The market in Saudi Arabia, where the start of the work week is Saturday, was the first to react to the violence in Egypt and the drop in the TASI offered a window into the potential battering that could emerge when other regional markets reopen on Sunday. On the Saudi market, there were no gainers as investors sold off holdings. Hit hard was Sabic, one of the world's largest petrochemical companies and the largest publicly traded firm on the exchange. Sabic's shares fell 8 percent, closing at 97.75 Saudi riyals." And this is just the beginning. If there are any further rumors (or confirmed sighting) of protests in Jeddah and elsewhere, regional markets will go bidless, oil will go offerless, GETCO and other NYSE SLPs will go bankrupt in their attempt to keep the stock market alive, and Bernanke will just go, once the entire world realizes that Genocide Ben, which is what ZH has been calling him for quite a while now, is really much more appropriate an appellation for the man who gives a bad name to helicopters.

From the AP:

"The fall is due to sentiment about what's happening in Egypt, and also in the US because the Dow went down" on Friday, said John Sfakianakis, chief economist at the Riyadh-based Banque Saudi Fransi-Credit Agricole Group.

"You have some collateral damage which is related to investors .... who have exposure in Egypt, and are trying to hedge that exposure by selling down their positions in Saudi Arabia," he said.

Egypt's stocks exchange canceled its start-of-week session on Sunday, and the country's banks were to remain closed following the weekend, Egyptian state television reported. Some banks in Cairo had been looted on Saturday as the violence entered its fifth day.

The protesters have demanded President Hosni Mubarak's ouster and measures to deal with the crippling poverty in the country, rampant corruption and the growing disparity in income distribution.

The rioting — inspired by similar protests in Tunisia two weeks earlier — prompted Mubarak to ask his cabinet to step down. But that move appears unlikely to significantly allay the anger of Egyptians who argue that the 82-year-old leader of the Arab world's most populous nation is sorely out of touch with their daily lives.

The violence sent Egypt's benchmark index tumbling almost 17 percent over two days ending Thursday, and analysts expect that the unrest will fuel another plunge both in Egypt and in regional markets which are slated to reopen on Sunday.

"The momentum is there," said Sfakianakis, predicting that regional markets drop.

"There's no reason to expect the Saudi market to go up because the general sentiment is sell-off and wait- and-see rather than sell-off and immediate buying," he said.

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/saudi-stock-exchange-plummets-6

[Cog]

Time for the governments over there to crack some heads. This violence and looting is not good for stability.

[virgincrude]

Keep your eye on Israel. I think this is the beginning of a huge sea change in the Middle East. Take a look at the map, Egypt is gone and Syria is close on its heals. Both have BIG borders with Israel and both are likely to very quickly show their true colours: i.e supporters of Palestine, no matter what. Lebanon already has a competely pro-Palestinian Hezbolla leadership, Syria and Jordan's population have large Palestinian minorities, and Egypt is simpy going to do what every Muslim on earth would do: support their oppressed brothers. What is Israel going to do, bomb its way out of a tight corner?

Very interesting confluence of events: WikiLeaks Palestine papers reveal what we all knew: the PA are not representative of the Palestinian people and will never resolve the Israeli-Palestine conflict; Tunisia, Egypt and Syria show signs of fundamental societal change which can only lead to a complete exposure of the full extent of Western hypocricy. All this and Peak Oil too! The end of economic growth in the West seems to mean a rather rapid readjustment in the heart of the source of that wealth.

And all this without a single AllahuAkbar, or Down With America. Kind of shows you where their priorities lie, don't you think? (Hint: they're the same as yours and mine, social justice and freedom. Not the establishment of an Islamic Caliphate.) Who'd of thought?

Of all these regimes I think Saudi is the most opressive, and they will be the last to fall. But fall, they shall. The little make believe states of AbuDhabi, Dubai, Qatar, Kuwait and Bahrain will all collapse, primarily financially, but later socially. What will happen in Iran? This country will surprise us all, but there will be the most bloodshed here. And what of ideologically related places, such as Pakistan or Afghanistan? Everything is connected

Interesting times, indeed.

[SeaGypsy]

And all this without a single AllahuAkbar, or Down With America. .

Wrong:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/video/2011/01/30/3124994.htm

Plenty of Allahu Akbah chanting and 'Bastards! Bastards!"

It is in no way going to help protestors to turn this into an anti American thing, it's already an anti American puppet dictator thing; or do you think these people are too stupid to know that?

[mos6507]

the PA are not representative of the Palestinian people and will never resolve the Israeli-Palestine conflict

You mean the Palestinian people who never fail to miss an opportunity?

The PA are abandoning terrorism and engaging in nation building and real diplomacy, which is more constructive than Hamas. That it's unpopular with the radicalized Palestinian people is clear, but it's the right thing to do if the Palestinian people want a peaceful 2-state solution rather than endless tit-for-tat bloodshed.

And all this without a single AllahuAkbar, or Down With America. Kind of shows you where their priorities lie, don't you think? (Hint: they're the same as yours and mine, social justice and freedom. Not the establishment of an Islamic Caliphate.) Who'd of thought?

You know, the current regime in Iran started with a revolution as well. I'd say it's too early to know where this will lead.

[ian807]

I don't think the KSA is going to have a revolution for the same reasons we in the USA won't. Nobody is hurting enough yet.

When supplies of cheap food, entertainment, shelter and psychoactive drugs fall below the level of daily comfort, you'll see revolution. Not before. The Saudis are simply too well funded to allow that to happen. When they, or we, can't support the majority of the population in comfort, however, watch out.

[vision-master]

I don't think the KSA is going to have a revolution for the same reasons we in the USA won't. Nobody is hurting enough yet.

When supplies of cheap food, entertainment, shelter and psychoactive drugs fall below the level of daily comfort, you'll see revolution. Not before. The Saudis are simply too well funded to allow that to happen. When they, or we, can't support the majority of the population in comfort, however, watch out.

Are you talking meds or stuff like DMT/ LSD?

bc if you are talking about the later, you are full of shit - psychoactive drugs are the only way we can save ourselves. This has to be our vehicle for change. All the brightest minds need to start experencing other dimensions, hidden knowledge not available through normal consciousness.


Watch and learn something from the so called primitive ppl's of the World.

Shamanism - Other Worlds - Ayahuasca Documentary

Shamanism - Other Worlds - Ayahuasca Documentary. Ayahuasca is used largely as a religious sacrament. Those whose usage of ayahuasca is performed in non-traditional contexts often align themselves with the philosophies and cosmologies associated with ayahuasca shamanism, as practiced among indigenous peoples like the Urarina of Peruvian Amazonia.

[mos6507]

psychoactive drugs are the only way we can save ourselves.

This statement speaks volumes about the way you post here

[vision-master]

So, you are unaware? From your posts, I would say yes. Matter of fact most ppl here are in the same boat. moss, watch the video.

[Keith_McClary]

They know it has to be stopped
Saudi king vows support for Mubarak

Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah ensures Mohamed Hosni Mubarak of his support amid nationwide protests against the Egyptian president's three-decade-long rule.

In a Saturday telephone conversation with Mubarak, Abdullah Ibn Abdulaziz Al Saud described the popular movements as "tampering with Egypt's security and stability in the name of freedom of expression,” AFP reported.

On Saturday, protesters took to the streets for the fifth-straight day. At least 100 people were reportedly killed during the crackdown by the security forces, which were earlier reinforced by tank battalions and Army soldiers.

The entire cabinet has resigned and a curfew has been extended in three cities of Cairo, Suez and Alexandria.

Talking to Abdullah, however, Mubarak claimed that “the situation is stable” and alleged that the outraged public was seeking “to achieve strange and suspicious objectives.”

Unfazed by the countrywide unease, the Egyptian head of state has promised political and economic reforms, but has not mentioned anything on relaxing his grip on power.

http://edition.presstv.ir/detail/162593.html

Here is the version on the official Saudi news website (there aren't any unofficial news websites):
President Obama joins King Abdullah in condemnation of Egyptian turmoil

By ARAB NEWS
Published: Jan 30, 2011 17:06 Updated: Jan 30, 2011 17:06

CASABLANCA: Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Abdullah and US President Barack Obama expressed their disapproval of the current turmoil in Egypt in a telephone conservation Saturday night.

“During the call, they reviewed relations between the countries and developments in the region as well as the tragic events taking place currently in Egypt that have been accompanied by chaos, looting, intimidation of innocents, exploitation of freedom and expression and attempts to ignite the flames of chaos to achieve their suspicious goals, which are not approved by Saudi and US sides,” the Saudi Press Agency reported.

The king also said the stability and security of the Egyptian people cannot be bargained with or be prejudiced under any justification.

“Egypt's capabilities and achievements are integral parts of the capabilities and accomplishments of the Arab and Islamic nations,” the king told the US president.

The king is currently recuperating from surgery in Morocco.

Their articles are usually well written. This sounds a bit panicked.

I hear that Saudi TV has nothing about Egypt & Tunisia but burning and looting - trying to scare their own population. Same in the US.

[ian807]

I don't think the KSA is going to have a revolution for the same reasons we in the USA won't. Nobody is hurting enough yet.

When supplies of cheap food, entertainment, shelter and psychoactive drugs fall below the level of daily comfort, you'll see revolution. Not before. The Saudis are simply too well funded to allow that to happen. When they, or we, can't support the majority of the population in comfort, however, watch out.

Are you talking meds or stuff like DMT/ LSD?

Uh no, thanks for asking. I was referring to alcohol, tobacco, antidepressants, marijuana and similar pablum.

bc if you are talking about the later, you are full of shit - psychoactive drugs are the only way we can save ourselves. This has to be our vehicle for change. All the brightest minds need to start experencing other dimensions, hidden knowledge not available through normal consciousness.

Watch and learn something from the so called primitive ppl's of the World.
Shamanism - Other Worlds - Ayahuasca Documentary

Shamanism - Other Worlds - Ayahuasca Documentary. Ayahuasca is used largely as a religious sacrament. Those whose usage of ayahuasca is performed in non-traditional contexts often align themselves with the philosophies and cosmologies associated with ayahuasca shamanism, as practiced among indigenous peoples like the Urarina of Peruvian Amazonia.

Thanks again, but old news. Very old actually, since I expect that Caapi vine and Aya have been used for longer than recorded history in that part of the world, along with Anadenanthera Colubrina and Epena. FYI, I'm personally familiar with all of these and still haven't found it necessary to shut off either my logic or reasoning. I'm also aware that neither logic nor reason are the be-all or end-all of anything. It's a tool, like sustained focused attention (i.e. meditation), pranayama in its various forms, trance dance, or dreaming. They're aspects of our experience as humans and have various uses.

And you might have noticed, Aya hasn't saved every member of the rain forest communities. From an aya perspective, saving anything forever really isn't the point, eh?