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The History every worker in America needs to know

Unread postby Cid_Yama » Sun 20 Feb 2011, 23:28:33

Haymarket Massacre
The Haymarket affair (also known as the Haymarket massacre) was a demonstration and unrest that took place on Tuesday May 4, 1886, at the Haymarket Square in Chicago. It began as a rally in support of striking workers. An unknown person threw a bomb at police as they dispersed the public meeting. The bomb blast and ensuing gunfire resulted in the deaths of eight police officers, mostly from friendly fire, and an unknown number of civilians. In the internationally publicized legal proceedings that followed, eight anarchists were tried for murder. Four men were convicted and executed, and one committed suicide in prison, although the prosecution conceded none of the defendants had thrown the bomb.

The deeply polarized attitudes separating business and working class people in late 19th-century Chicago are generally acknowledged as having precipitated the tragedy and its aftermath.

In October 1884, a convention held by the Federation of Organized Trades and Labor Unions unanimously set May 1, 1886, as the date by which the eight-hour work day would become standard. As the chosen date approached, U.S. labor unions prepared for a general strike in support of the eight-hour day.

Estimates of the number of striking workers across the U.S. range from 300,000 to half a million.

The rally began peacefully under a light rain on the evening of May 4. August Spies spoke to the large crowd while standing in an open wagon on Des Plaines Street while a large number of on-duty police officers watched from nearby. According to witnesses, Spies began by saying the rally was not meant to incite violence. Historian Paul Avrich records Spies as saying "there seems to prevail the opinion in some quarters that this meeting has been called for the purpose of inaugurating a riot, hence these warlike preparations on the part of so-called 'law and order.' However, let me tell you at the beginning that this meeting has not been called for any such purpose. The object of this meeting is to explain the general situation of the eight-hour movement and to throw light upon various incidents in connection with it."

The crowd was so calm that Mayor Carter Harrison, Sr., who had stopped by to watch, walked home early. Samuel Fielden, the last speaker, was finishing his speech at about 10:30 when police ordered the rally to disperse and began marching in formation towards the speakers' wagon. A pipe bomb was thrown at the police line and exploded, killing policeman Mathias J. Degan. The police immediately opened fire. Some workers were armed, but accounts vary widely as to how many shot back. The incident lasted less than five minutes.

An anonymous police official told the Chicago Tribune, "A very large number of the police were wounded by each other's revolvers. ... It was every man for himself, and while some got two or three squares away, the rest emptied their revolvers, mainly into each other."

The Chicago Herald described a scene of "wild carnage" and estimated at least fifty dead or wounded civilians lay in the streets.

Eight people connected directly or indirectly with the rally and its anarchist organizers were arrested afterward and charged.

The prosecution, led by Julius Grinnell, did not offer credible evidence connecting the defendants with the bombing but argued that the person who had thrown the bomb was not discouraged to do so by the defendants, who as conspirators were therefore equally responsible.

Albert Parsons' brother claimed there was evidence linking the Pinkertons to the bomb.

The jury returned guilty verdicts for all eight defendants – death sentences for seven of the men, and a sentence of 15 years in prison for Neebe. The sentencing sparked outrage from budding labor and workers' movements, resulted in protests around the world, and elevated the defendants as international political celebrities and heroes within labor and radical political circles.

After the appeals had been exhausted, Illinois Governor Richard James Oglesby commuted Fielden's and Schwab's sentences to life in prison on November 10, 1887. On the eve of his scheduled execution, Lingg committed suicide in his cell with a smuggled dynamite cap which he reportedly held in his mouth like a cigar (the blast blew off half his face and he survived in agony for six hours).

The next day (November 11, 1887) Spies, Parsons, Fischer and Engel were taken to the gallows in white robes and hoods. They sang the Marseillaise, then the anthem of the international revolutionary movement. Family members including Lucy Parsons, who attempted to see them for the last time, were arrested and searched for bombs (none were found). According to witnesses, in the moments before the men were hanged, Spies shouted, "The time will come when our silence will be more powerful than the voices you strangle today!" Witnesses reported that the condemned men did not die immediately when they dropped, but strangled to death slowly, a sight which left the spectators visibly shaken.

The trial has been characterized as one of the most serious miscarriages of justice in United States history. Most working people believed Pinkerton agents had provoked the incident. On June 26, 1893, Illinois Governor John Peter Altgeld signed pardons for Fielden, Neebe, and Schwab after having concluded all eight defendants were innocent. The governor said the reason for the bombing was the city of Chicago's failure to hold Pinkerton guards responsible for shooting workers. The pardons ended his political career.

Commemoration of May Day became an annual event the following year.

The association of May Day with the Haymarket martyrs has remained strong in Mexico. Mary Harris "Mother" Jones was in Mexico on May 1, 1921, and wrote of the "day of 'fiestas'" that marked "the killing of the workers in Chicago for demanding the eight-hour day". In 1929 The New York Times referred to the May Day parade in Mexico City as "the annual demonstration glorifying the memory of those who were killed in Chicago in 1886." The New York Times described the 1936 demonstration as a commemoration of "the death of the martyrs in Chicago." An American visitor in 1981 wrote that she was embarrassed to explain to knowledgeable Mexican workers that American workers were ignorant of the Haymarket affair and the origins of May Day.

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Know that many gave their lives so that workers no longer were forced to work every waking hour.


The Ludlow Massacre
The Ludlow Massacre refers to the violent deaths of 19 people during an attack by the Colorado National Guard on a tent colony of 1,200 striking coal miners and their families at Ludlow, Colorado on April 20, 1914. The deaths occurred after a day-long fight between strikers and the Guard. Two women and eleven children were asphyxiated and burned to death. Three union leaders and two strikers were killed by gunfire, along with one child, one passer-by, and one National Guardsman. In response, the miners armed themselves and attacked dozens of mines, destroying property and engaging in several skirmishes with the Colorado National Guard.

This was the deadliest incident in the 14-month 1913-1914 southern Colorado Coal Strike. The strike was organized by the United Mine Workers of America (UMWA) against coal mining companies in Colorado. The three largest companies involved were the Rockefeller family-owned Colorado Fuel & Iron Company (CF&I), the Rocky Mountain Fuel Company (RMF), and the Victor-American Fuel Company (VAF). Ludlow, located 12 miles (19 km) northwest of Trinidad, Colorado, is now a ghost town. The massacre site is owned by the UMWA, which erected a granite monument in memory of the miners and their families who died that day.

The Ludlow Tent Colony Site was designated a National Historic Landmark on January 16, 2009, and dedicated on June 28, 2009. Modern archeological investigation largely supports the strikers' reports of the event.

Despite attempts to suppress union activity, secret organizing by the UMWA continued in the years leading up to 1913. Eventually, the union presented a list of seven demands on behalf of the miners:

Recognition of the union as bargaining agent

An increase in tonnage rates (equivalent to a 10% wage increase)

Enforcement of the eight-hour work day law

Payment for "dead work" (laying track, timbering, handling impurities, etc.)
Weight-checkmen elected by the workers (to keep company weightmen honest)

The right to use any store, and choose their boarding houses and doctors
Strict enforcement of Colorado's laws (such as mine safety rules, abolition of scrip)

an end to the company guard system

The major coal companies rejected the demands and in September 1913, the UMWA called a strike. Those who went on strike were promptly evicted from their company homes, and they moved to tent villages prepared by the UMWA. The tents were built on wood platforms and furnished with cast iron stoves on land leased by the union in preparation for a strike.

The company hired the Baldwin-Felts Detective Agency to protect the new workers and harass the strikers.

Baldwin-Felts had a reputation for aggressive strike breaking. Agents shone searchlights on the tent villages at night and fired bullets into the tents at random, occasionally killing and maiming people. They used an improvised armored car, mounted with a machine gun the union called the "Death Special," to patrol the camp's perimeters. The steel-covered car was built in the CF&I plant in Pueblo, Colorado from the chassis of a large touring sedan. Frequent sniper attacks on the tent colonies drove the miners to dig pits beneath the tents where they and their families could be better protected.

On the morning of April 20, the day after Easter was celebrated by the many Greek immigrants at Ludlow, three Guardsmen appeared at the camp ordering the release of a man they claimed was being held against his will. This request prompted the camp leader, Louis Tikas, to meet with a local militia commander at the train station in Ludlow village, a half mile (0.8 km) from the colony. While this meeting was progressing, two companies of militia installed a machine gun on a ridge near the camp and took a position along a rail route about half a mile south of Ludlow. Anticipating trouble, Tikas ran back to the camp. The miners, fearing for the safety of their families, set out to flank the militia positions. A firefight soon broke out.

The fighting raged for the entire day. The militia was reinforced by non-uniformed mine guards later in the afternoon. At dusk, a passing freight train stopped on the tracks in front of the Guards' machine gun placements, allowing many of the miners and their families to escape to an outcrop of hills to the east called the "Black Hills." By 7:00 p.m., the camp was in flames, and the militia descended on it and began to search and loot the camp. Louis Tikas had remained in the camp the entire day and was still there when the fire started. Tikas and two other men were captured by the militia. Tikas and Lt. Karl Linderfelt, commander of one of two Guard companies, had confronted each other several times in the previous months. While two militiamen held Tikas, Linderfelt broke a rifle butt over his head. Tikas and the other two captured miners were later found shot dead. Their bodies lay along the Colorado and Southern tracks for three days in full view of passing trains. The militia officers refused to allow them to be moved until a local of a railway union demanded the bodies be taken away for burial.

During the battle, four women and eleven children had been hiding in a pit beneath one tent, where they were trapped when the tent above them was set on fire. Two of the women and all of the children suffocated. These deaths became a rallying cry for the UMWA, who called the incident the "Ludlow Massacre."

In response to the Ludlow massacre, the leaders of organized labor in Colorado issued a call to arms, urging union members to acquire "all the arms and ammunition legally available," and a large-scale guerrilla war ensued, lasting ten days. In Trinidad, Colorado, UMWA officials openly distributed arms and ammunition to strikers at union headquarters. 700 to 1,000 strikers "attacked mine after mine, driving off or killing the guards and setting fire to the buildings." At least fifty people, including those at Ludlow, were killed in ten days of fighting against mine guards and hundreds of militia reinforcements rushed back into the strike zone. The fighting ended only when US President Woodrow Wilson sent in Federal troops. The troops, who reported directly to Washington, DC, disarmed both sides, displacing and often arresting the militia in the process.

This conflict, called the Colorado Coalfield War, was the most violent labor conflict in US history; the reported death toll ranged from 69 in the Colorado government report to 199 in an investigation ordered by John D. Rockefeller, Jr.

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Class war flows from capitalism's deeply embedded structure that pits capitalists against workers. The 1970s end of rising real wages pumped additional resources into capitalists' hands to step up class war while it weakened workers. But class war was not only a result, it also helped cause real wages to stop rising in the first place. Capitalism always drives employers to seek lower wages, in effect to wage class war to secure lower wages. However, labor shortages inside the US had long frustrated employers (even when they used massive immigration waves, automation, and other weapons of class war). When, by the 1970s, those conditions finally shifted (computerization and globalization reduced the demand for labor while women and new immigration increased the supply of laborers), employers stopped raising real wages with all the results discussed above.

In times of prosperity as in times of crisis, capitalism entails class war. Only system change will end that. Capitalists have few reasons to change the system. Workers remain, as always, in position to make the break. Meanwhile, they suffer the consequences of not doing so.

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Re: The History every worker in America needs to know

Unread postby Cid_Yama » Sun 20 Feb 2011, 23:33:31

What is Progressivism?
Progressivism is the specifically American development of liberal populism that seeks social and economic justice above all else, most specifically with reference to the obstacles posed to social and economic justice by large corporations and banks. Though Progressives strongly support civil liberties, the "progress" in Progressivism lies, most fundamentally, with ensuring, as the American pledge to the flag puts it, "justice for all". Because of this core concern, Progressives have advocated governance "of the people, by the people, for the people", the phrase "the people" here standing in sharpest contrast to governance by the corporation, or rather its principle owners and beneficiaries.

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Progressivism 101: The differences between progressivism and liberalism
Progressives tend to oppose monopolies and powerful corporate trusts. As a result, they favor trust-busting and regulation in order to check corporate corruption and strength. Some progressives are disappointed with President Obama, who has used markedly liberal policies to end the financial crisis. Instead of directing the Justice Department to launch anti-trust investigations against the nation’s largest financial firms, he has instead favored government bailouts and government takeovers. The more traditional progressive response to banks and companies that are “too big to fail,” would be to make them smaller.

Progressives also favor environmental protection, conservation and stewardship, and energy independence. A liberal solution to high energy costs might be to increase federal spending for a program like the Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP). Progressives, however, would “also crack down on price gouging and pass laws better-regulating the oil industry's profiteering and market manipulation tactics.”

Progressives are opposed to the efforts of corporate entities that seek greater influence in government. As previously mentioned, progressives like to strengthen democracy, and generate more power for the public. That’s why the progressive movement was responsible for the constitutional amendment that allowed for the direct election of U.S. Senators (members of the Right should note that Scott Brown [R-MA] could not have been elected without this important contribution). Now, progressives support the public financing of elections, they support direct elections, and they support other efforts to reform government and politics.

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Re: The History every worker in America needs to know

Unread postby americandream » Sun 20 Feb 2011, 23:35:37

Excellent first post, Cid! A timely reminder for workers all across this world and at this juncture.
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Re: The History every worker in America needs to know

Unread postby gollum » Sun 20 Feb 2011, 23:45:02

Yes, thanks for posting.
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Re: The History every worker in America needs to know

Unread postby Cid_Yama » Mon 21 Feb 2011, 00:50:23

Oops, posted it on the wrong thread.
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Re: The History every worker in America needs to know

Unread postby Cloud9 » Mon 21 Feb 2011, 01:24:02

It is easy to let the mists of time close over the dark side of progressivism. The progressive notion that humanity could be perfected gave rise to eugenics, the milder form of Nazi genetical engineering.
http://www.intellectualtakeout.org/libr ... ogressives

Progressivism gave us the Federal Reserve, federal income tax and the war to end all wars. It should be remembered that Wilson, the nation’s first progressive president commented after seeing the Birth of A Nation that it was history wrote with lightening.
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Re: The History every worker in America needs to know

Unread postby Oneaboveall » Mon 21 Feb 2011, 01:34:29

Subhumans So Much Money:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mjI6F-kRjQ
Lyrics:
[Chorus:]
So much money where does it all come from?
We re paying for democracy never mind the bomb
So much money what does it do?
It puts them in power where they shit on you

You don t care about the social disease
You got so much money you can do as you please
Too many people voted for you
Now you re telling us what to do
Money is power and you re so rich
You married for money to a classy bitch
Use the cash to build up a regime
The silent man behind the killing machine

[Chorus]

Political war is an easy game
Using the people to support your aim
State your idea of your ideal state
And after they ve voted it ll be too late
And when the country's in a fucking mess
They want to know the secret of your success
You never used weapons you never used tools
But money is power and people are fools
When the banksters want something, our policymakers move with the speed of Mercury and the determination of Ares. It’s only when the rest of us need something that there is paralysis.

How free are we today with the dominance of globalist capital and militarized security apparatus?
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Re: The History every worker in America needs to know

Unread postby americandream » Mon 21 Feb 2011, 01:56:45

Cloud9 wrote:It is easy to let the mists of time close over the dark side of progressivism. The progressive notion that humanity could be perfected gave rise to eugenics, the milder form of Nazi genetical engineering.
http://www.intellectualtakeout.org/libr ... ogressives

Progressivism gave us the Federal Reserve, federal income tax and the war to end all wars. It should be remembered that Wilson, the nation’s first progressive president commented after seeing the Birth of A Nation that it was history wrote with lightening.


Whilst I am no social liberal, the notion that liberal progressivism gave rise to lopsided notions of ascendency, is as garbled as the nonsense that passes itself for a people's republic in China. The roots for all these mutations lie not in the quest for a fair and equitable life, but in the opportunism that lurks in the dark, only to rear it's head when privilege is sought or threatened.

History is rife with the actions of those who will manipulate and mislead. Why, even the early and primitive ethics of Christianity found a mutated application in the feudal barbarism of Reformed Presbyterianism, devoted as it was and remains, to landowning privilege.
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Re: The History every worker in America needs to know

Unread postby Oneaboveall » Mon 21 Feb 2011, 02:05:01

Cid_Yama wrote:Oops, posted it on the wrong thread.

And I responded to said opps with lyrics of my own... :oops:
When the banksters want something, our policymakers move with the speed of Mercury and the determination of Ares. It’s only when the rest of us need something that there is paralysis.

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Re: The History every worker in America needs to know

Unread postby Cid_Yama » Mon 21 Feb 2011, 02:15:50

Cloud9 wrote:Progressivism gave us the Federal Reserve


Wrong

Creation of the Federal Reserve
Looking back over history it is fascinating to see the degree by which the plans of very powerful men alter the course of nations. But as interesting as it is, it is even more stunning to realize that these ideas are rarely, if ever, the product of middle class thinking.

The creation of the Federal Reserve was no different. It all began in a New Jersey train station on a night in November 1910.

Leaving from a Hoboken Railway station were a group of the nation's leading financiers and a powerful Congressmen and his staff. And although few of them knew it at time they were headed for Georgia, 1000 miles away.

Their mission was a secret and in the end it would change the nation forever.

And while a few reporters suspiciously witnessed the gathering of the powerful, none of them bothered to report on the exodus. The men, they were told, were simply going duck hunting.

But to be sure this was no ordinary hunting trip. The railcars themselves were sealed and the blinds were drawn. And each member of "the hunting party" was instructed to at no time to use his own last name or to use that of any of the others.

And while they stopped short of outright disguises, their intentions were clear-their identities were to remain secret.

Leading the ultra secret trip to Georgia was Senator Nelson Aldrich, head of the National Monetary Commission. Joining the Senator was A. Piatt Andrew, Assistant Secretary of the Treasury, Frank Vanderlip, President of National City Bank of New York, Henry P. Davison, senior partner of J.P. Morgan Company, and generally regarded as Morgan's personal emissary; Charles D. Norton, president of the Morgan-dominated First National Bank of New York, Benjamin Strong, also known as a lieutenant of J.P. Morgan; and Paul Warburg, a recent immigrant from Germany who had joined the banking house of Kuhn, Loeb and Company of New York as a partner.

And while these names may be hardly recognizable today, in their day these were powerful and well known men indeed. And as amazing as it seems they represented approximately ¼ of the world's wealth.

In fact, Paul Warburg himself was one of the richest men in the world and even served as the basis of the character Daddy Warbucks portrayed in "Little Orphan Annie."

Heading south that day, this famous entourage finally reached its destination, Jekyll Island, Georgia. And it was here, on an island off the coast of Georgia that our nation was changed forever.

Now owned by the state, the island was once the private playground of the rich and famous. Its members included names like Astor, Vanderbilt, Morgan and Pulitzer.

Needless to say the club was both incredibly ritzy and quite exclusive.

Unbelievably, even Winston Churchill himself was once refused admission to the haven.

And once ensconced in their private and discreet playground, the rich and the powerful went to work. And when they were finished some seven days later they had created the plan that would become the Federal Reserve Bank.

And a simple plan it was because essentially it created a national central bank comprised of 12 regional banking systems.

Not surprisingly it was modeled after the central banks of Europe. Paul Warburg knew them well and was its main architect.

But, of course, they were very careful not to call it that since the public was rightfully wary of central banks themselves. In fact, its very name was the topic of much discussion.

And after much debate it was named in such a way as to give the public the idea that the bank was just another government agency.

In truth, of course, it was not because the bank that they created was a private corporation. And while this fact is not widely known it was a notion that was affirmed by the Supreme Court in 1982.

In Lewis v. United States680 F.2d 1239 (9th Cir. 1982) , for instance, the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit stated that "the Reserve Banks are not federal instrumentalities for purposes of the FTCA [the Federal Tort Claims Act], but are independent, privately owned and locally controlled corporations."

So it was out of these secret meetings that the control of the nation's money supply was handed over to the very bankers and private corporations that earlier generations of Americans, including Thomas Jefferson and Andrew Jackson found to be so onerous.

Because some three years after the secret meeting, the plan conceived on Jekyll island became law.

That's because, on December 22, 1913, while many members of Congress were home for Christmas, the Federal Reserve Act was rammed through Congress and was later signed into law by President Wilson.

Even President Wilson, who some say owed his presidency to the very men that met so secretly in Georgia some 96 years ago, came to realize that.

Because at a later date, Wilson himself admitted with remorse, when referring to the Fed that, "I have unwittingly ruined my country."

And going even further Woodrow Wilson wrote this in 1916:

"Our system of credit is concentrated (in the Federal Reserve System). The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities, are in the hands of a few men."

Wilson, of course, was right.

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Cloud9 wrote:Wilson, the nation’s first progressive president


Wrong

Progressivism and Teddy Roosevelt
Roosevelt’s perception of the president was rejected by the powerful leaders in the Senate and it would not be until his 1904 electoral victory that the Congress supported the initiatives of his “Square Deal.” However, Roosevelt set the tone and some important reform legislation was passed.

Referring to the “bad trusts” and their operators as the “malefactors of great wealth,” Roosevelt instructed his Attorney General to use the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Act to break up the Northern Securities Company, a conglomerate that worked to restrict trade. In Northern Securities v. United States, the government prevailed, marking the first time the Sherman Act was effectively used to “tame” the trusts.

The Elkins Act of 1903 further strengthened railroad regulation by monitoring unfair discrimination and imposing fines. The Newlands Act of 1902 provided government assistance for western irrigation projects and in early 1903 the Nelson Amendment established the Department of Commerce and Labor as well as giving the president the right to publicize corporate wrong doing. Roosevelt used the opportunity to appoint Oscar Strauss as the first Jew to serve in a presidential Cabinet.

The Pennsylvania Coal Strike

In 1902 a strike by anthracite coal miners threatened to cripple the nation. Led by John Mitchell, strikers refused to negotiate, demanding a 9 hour workday and a 10% increase in wages. Public sentiment supported the workers at a time newspapers were highlighting atrocious working conditions throughout many American industries, most notably the rampant use of child labor.

Roosevelt summoned Mitchell, the mine owners, and J. P. Morgan to the White House where he mediated an end to the strike. Out of the negotiations came a commission that would hold hearings on labor disputes with liberal attorney Clarence Darrow representing the rights of workers. The hearings lasted several weeks and the Congress heard from hundreds of witnesses. Roosevelt’s mediation of the strike illustrated his view of the presidency as a type of stewardship.

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Progressivism was a period of American history in which
improving working conditions, improving the way of life, exposing
corruption, expanding democracy and making reforms was the main idea
of this period. Many of the citizens granted and demanded a change in
numerous areas such as business, labor, economy, consumers and an
increase of democracy. The progressive period was marked with the
arrival of three great presidents Roosevelt, Taft, and Wilson all
three of these presidents fought for the common good of the people.
Teddy Roosevelt was known as the "trust buster" and that is
exactly what he did to help control big business. Many large
corporations had complete control of the services that they were
selling. Roosevelt went in to these companies and helped to stop this
type of monopoly. The biggest trust that Roosevelt busted was the one
involving Northern Securities and J.P. Morgan.
Roosevelt was also a big supporter of labor he tried almost
everything and anything to help the citizens of the United States.
Teddy set up child protection laws, which were used to prevent
children to work in factories, and it also reduced the amount of time
they worked. Roosevelt also set up workman's compensation, which is a
payment that employers had to pay employees who get injured on the
job.

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Progressivism gave ... federal income tax


Wrong.

The first Federal Income Tax measure was passed in 1862 to support the Civil War. The 16th Amendment to the Constitution made it permanent.

Wilson instituted the Progressive Income Tax.

This type of income tax is called a progressive or graduated which would rise with the amount of money that a person makes. This really helped the poor because they were taxed less than big business men were.



Cloud9, You need to turn the propaganda off and actually educate yourself. You were wrong across the board.
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Re: The History every worker in America needs to know

Unread postby Cid_Yama » Mon 21 Feb 2011, 04:34:52

FDR best summed up the meaning of Progressivism in this speech.

FDR Speech before the 1936 Democratic National Convention
June 27, 1936
A Rendezvous With Destiny
The age of machinery, of railroads; of steam and electricity; the telegraph and the radio; mass production, mass distribution - all of these combined to bring forward a new civilization and with it a new problem for those who sought to remain free.

For out of this modern civilization economic royalists carved new dynasties. New kingdoms were built upon concentration of control over material things. Through new uses of corporations, banks and securities, new machinery of industry and agriculture, of labor and capital - all undreamed of by the Fathers - the whole structure of modern life was impressed into this royal service.

There was no place among this royalty for our many thousands of small-businessmen and merchants who sought to make a worthy use of the American system of initiative and profit. They were no more free than the worker or the farmer. Even honest and progressive-minded men of wealth, aware of their obligation to their generation, could never know just where they fitted into this dynastic scheme of things.

It was natural and perhaps human that the privileged princes of these new economic dynasties, thirsting for power, reached out for control over government itself. They created a new despotism and wrapped it in the robes of legal sanction. In its service new mercenaries sought to regiment the people, their labor, and their property. And as a result the average man once more confronts the problem that faced the Minute Man.

The hours men and women worked, the wages they received, the conditions of their labor - these had passed beyond the control of the people, and were imposed by this new industrial dictatorship. The savings of the average family, the capital of the small-businessmen, the investments set aside for old age - other people's money - these were tools which the new economic royalty used to dig itself in.

Those who tilled the soil no longer reaped the rewards which were their right. The small measure of their gains was decreed by men in distant cities.

Throughout the nation, opportunity was limited by monopoly. Individual initiative was crushed in the cogs of a great machine. The field open for free business was more and more restricted. Private enterprise, indeed, became too private. It became privileged enterprise, not free enterprise.

An old English judge once said: "Necessitous men are not free men." Liberty requires opportunity to make a living - a living decent according to the standard of the time, a living which gives man not only enough to live by, but something to live for.

For too many of us the political equality we once had won was meaningless in the face of economic inequality. A small group had concentrated into their own hands an almost complete control over other people's property, other people's money, other people's labor - other people's lives. For too many of us life was no longer free; liberty no longer real; men could no longer follow the pursuit of happiness.

Against economic tyranny such as this, the American citizen could appeal only to the organized power of government. The collapse of 1929 showed up the despotism for what it was. The election of 1932 was the people's mandate to end it. Under that mandate it is being ended.

The royalists of the economic order have conceded that political freedom was the business of the government, but they have maintained that economic slavery was nobody's business. They granted that the government could protect the citizen in his right to vote, but they denied that the government could do anything to protect the citizen in his right to work and his right to live.

Today we stand committed to the proposition that freedom is no half-and-half affair. If the average citizen is guaranteed equal opportunity in the polling place, he must have equal opportunity in the market place.

These economic royalists complain that we seek to overthrow the institutions of America. What they really complain of is that we seek to take away their power. Our allegiance to American institutions requires the overthrow of this kind of power. In vain they seek to hide behind the flag and the Constitution. In their blindness they forget what the flag and the Constitution stand for. Now, as always, they stand for democracy, not tyranny; for freedom, not subjection; and against a dictatorship by mob rule and the over-privileged alike.

The brave and clear platform adopted by this convention, to which I heartily subscribe, sets forth that government in a modern civilization has certain inescapable obligations to its citizens, among which are protection of the family and the home, the establishment of a democracy of opportunity, and aid to those overtaken by disaster.

But the resolute enemy within our gates is ever ready to beat down our words unless in greater courage we will fight for them.

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Re: The History every worker in America needs to know

Unread postby Cloud9 » Mon 21 Feb 2011, 09:22:39

I concede that Teddy Roosevelt was a progressive in that he wanted to reign in the trusts and sided with labor on several occasions. He was not elected by progressives. It was thought by the Republican leadership that by making him vice-president they could isolate him and make him less a threat to the Republican agenda. When he became president as the result of assassination, he was able to push some progressive ideas. He won his second term as a result of his immense popularity. When he formed the Bull Moose Party that was a progressive movement but he did not get elected on a progressive platform.

So, I was wrong when I asserted that Wilson was the first progressive in the White House. I was right in that Wilson was the first president elected by the Progressive movement. The Democratic Party embraced the progressive movement with the election of Wilson. It was the progressive Democrats that presided over female suffrage, the formation of the Federal Reserve, prohibition, and the creation of the League of Nations. It was the Republicans that successfully prevented the United States from joining the League.

Was the Federal Reserve created by a cabal of greedy bankers? Of course it was. But it was a Progressive president that signed it into law. He needed a loose monetary policy to expand government and fight his war to end all wars.

It was the northern Democrats that fully embraced the progressive idea that mankind could be perfected and that big problems required big government. This liberal branch of the party gained the center of the party after the Blue Dog Democrats joined Regan.

Progressives believe in central planning by teams of selected experts. They believe through government intervention that humanity can be physically and morally perfected. They believe that all problems can be solved by governmental action. They are statist and by extension support one world government. They embrace the collective at the expense of the individual.

And like so many central planners, their good intentions on occasion pave a pathway to hell as was the case with prohibition.

F.D.R. the greatest of the progressives shredded the Constitution, established socialism in America and put thousands of people in concentration camps based on the color of their skin.

Individuals occasionally murder thousands. Organized states murder millions. Each time the state embraces genocide it is for the greater good, always sacrificing the few for the needs of the many. After all, it is necessary to break a few eggs to make an omelet.
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Unread postby Cid_Yama » Mon 21 Feb 2011, 15:24:46

Roosevelt did not put people in concentration camps and murder them. The Japanese internment camps on the west coast were wrong and an over reaction to the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, but they were not concentration camps and no one was murdered there.

Progressives are anti-authoritarian and thus your crap about central planning is just that.

It was the Fascist industrialists in the first half of the 20th century that embraced Eugenics and they still do, funding think tanks like the Pioneer Fund.

The "Volstead Act", the popular name for the National Prohibition Act, passed through Congress over President Woodrow Wilson's veto on October 28, 1919, and established the legal definition of intoxicating liquor, as well as penalties for producing it.

You must get your history from Glen Beck University.

Climb back out of the schizophrenic rabbit hole and come back to reality.
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Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 21 Feb 2011, 15:56:07

Cid_Yama wrote:Roosevelt did not put people in concentration camps and murder them. The Japanese internment camps on the west coast were wrong and an over reaction to the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, but they were not concentration camps and no one was murdered there.


Your defense of Roosevelt's internment camps is disgraceful, Cid, and dishonest to boot.

Its well known that many people died in the Japanese camps because the government placed them in cold, remote areas and didn't provide adequate housing, clothing, food, or medical care for the internees. These people were murdered just as surely as prisoners in the USSR's socialist work camps were murdered by the harsh condidtions they were kept in.

Deaths in Japanese internment camps

And it wasn't just the Japanese who were interned for racist reasons by Roosevelt. Here is Alaska many Alaskan natives were also interned, with many more lives needlessly lost.

I thought you were politically conscious enough to be against things like racist internment camps, Cid. I'm sorry to see that you are just a typical leftist after all. 8)
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Unread postby gollum » Mon 21 Feb 2011, 16:04:59

Plantagenet wrote:
Cid_Yama wrote:Roosevelt did not put people in concentration camps and murder them. The Japanese internment camps on the west coast were wrong and an over reaction to the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, but they were not concentration camps and no one was murdered there.


Your defense of Roosevelt's internment camps is disgraceful, Cid, and dishonest to boot.

Its well known that many people died in the Japanese camps because the government placed them in cold, remote areas and didn't provide adequate housing, clothing, food, or medical care for the internees. These people were murdered just as surely as prisoners in the USSR's socialist work camps were murdered by the harsh condidtions they were kept in.

Deaths in Japanese internment camps

And it wasn't just the Japanese who were interned for racist reasons by Roosevelt. Here is Alaska many Alaskan natives were also interned, with many more lives needlessly lost.



I thought you were politically conscious enough to be against things like racist internment camps, Cid. I'm sorry to see that you are just a typical leftist after all. 8)



A republican giving a shit about things like mistreatment of prisoners, due process, or civil liberties, now THERE is a change.......
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Re: The History every worker in America needs to know

Unread postby Livewire713 » Mon 21 Feb 2011, 16:11:32

Your defense of Roosevelt's internment camps is disgraceful, Cid, and dishonest to boot.


Plantagenet, you are a master at spin.
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Re: The History every worker in America needs to know

Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 21 Feb 2011, 16:20:06

Livewire713 wrote:
Your defense of Roosevelt's internment camps is disgraceful, Cid, and dishonest to boot.


Plantagenet, you are a master at spin.


What spin do you imagine is involved in condemning Roosevelt's racist internment policies?

Is there something good about interning innocent people because of their skin color and ethnic background that liberals see but I'm missing? :roll:
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Plantagenet wrote:
Livewire713 wrote:
Your defense of Roosevelt's internment camps is disgraceful, Cid, and dishonest to boot.


Plantagenet, you are a master at spin.


What spin do you imagine is involved in condemning Roosevelt's racist internment policies?

Is there something good about interning innocent people because of their skin color and ethnic background that liberals see but I'm missing? :roll:


:) I never said any of that but thanks for proving my point :)
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Re: The History every worker in America needs to know

Unread postby Cid_Yama » Mon 21 Feb 2011, 16:33:47

Upton Sinclair's The Jungle (1906)
Upton Sinclair wrote The Jungle to expose the appalling working conditions in the meat-packing industry. His description of diseased, rotten, and contaminated meat shocked the public and led to new federal food safety laws.

Before the turn of the 20th century, a major reform movement had emerged in the United States. Known as progressives, the reformers were reacting to problems caused by the rapid growth of factories and cities. Progressives at first concentrated on improving the lives of those living in slums and in getting rid of corruption in government.

By the beginning of the new century, progressives had started to attack huge corporations like Standard Oil, U.S. Steel, and the Armour meat-packing company for their unjust practices. The progressives revealed how these companies eliminated competition, set high prices, and treated workers as "wage slaves."

The progressives differed, however, on how best to control these big businesses. Some progressives wanted to break up the large corporations with anti-monopoly laws. Others thought state or federal government regulation would be more effective. A growing minority argued in favor of socialism, the public ownership of industries. The owners of the large industries dismissed all these proposals: They demanded that they be left alone to run their businesses as they saw fit.

Theodore Roosevelt was the president when the progressive reformers were gathering strength. Assuming the presidency in 1901 after the assassination of William McKinley, he remained in the White House until 1909. Roosevelt favored large-scale enterprises. "The corporation is here to stay," he declared. But he favored government regulation of them "with due regard of the public as a whole."

Roosevelt did not always approve of the progressive-minded journalists and other writers who exposed what they saw as corporate injustices. When David Phillips, a progressive journalist, wrote a series of articles that attacked U.S. senators of both political parties for serving the interests of big business rather than the people, President Roosevelt thought Phillips had gone too far. He referred to him as a man with a "muck-rake."

Even so, Roosevelt had to admit, "There is filth on the floor, and it must be scraped up with the muck-rake." The term "muckraker" caught on. It referred to investigative writers who uncovered the dark side of society.

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Re: The History every worker in America needs to know

Unread postby nobodypanic » Mon 21 Feb 2011, 16:36:54

Plantagenet wrote:
Livewire713 wrote:
Your defense of Roosevelt's internment camps is disgraceful, Cid, and dishonest to boot.


Plantagenet, you are a master at spin.


What spin do you imagine is involved in condemning Roosevelt's racist internment policies?

Is there something good about interning innocent people because of their skin color and ethnic background that liberals see but I'm missing? :roll:

you should be thanking FDR every day before bed-time. he co-opted the left and ensured that the socialist and communist parties in the US could not carry forth a true revolution.

this time, however, there's a chance that the neoliberal power bloc is so blinded by ideology that they will prevent the rise of a similar figure to ultimately save their bacon (see yourself as an example). or maybe not. we'll see.
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