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Why is there no looting in Japan?

Unread postby timmac » Thu 17 Mar 2011, 01:57:04

I sure wish we here in America would act much more reasonable when we have our major events, sort of seems embarrassing how we acted during Katrina when you see that the Japanese act much more civilized..

Looting is something we see after almost every tragedy; for example: last year's earthquakes in Haiti and Chile, the floods in England in 2007, and of course Hurricane Katrina back in 2005. It happens when some people who've seen life as they know it get tossed out the window feel that all morality has been tossed out too. It's survival of the fittest and whatever you can get your hands on is yours, no matter who it belongs to.

But that's not happening in Japan.


http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/15/why-is-there-no-looting-in-japan/?hpt=T1
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Re: Why is there no looting in Japan?

Unread postby ki11ercane » Thu 17 Mar 2011, 02:33:38

It is an act of extreme bad luck and misfortune to take something that doesn't belong to you. It's more of a cultural thing than religious.

Many times when things get lost or misplaced in Japan say out in public, either no one touches it, or if they do the item is immediately turned into the authorities.
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Re: Why is there no looting in Japan?

Unread postby danielrombus » Thu 17 Mar 2011, 03:00:05

Am really amazed by the discipline of the Japanese. Thank for the post, otherwise I would have never know about this.
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Re: Why is there no looting in Japan?

Unread postby Koyaanisqatsi » Thu 17 Mar 2011, 03:10:35

Amid disaster, Japan's societal mores remain strong

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/0 ... index.html
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Re: Why is there no looting in Japan?

Unread postby Sixstrings » Thu 17 Mar 2011, 03:13:32

timmac wrote:I sure wish we here in America would act much more reasonable when we have our major events, sort of seems embarrassing how we acted during Katrina when you see that the Japanese act much more civilized..


As ki11ercane said, it's cultural. Although I wasn't aware of the "bad luck" thing, my impression has always been that the Japanese are just very orderly, to the point of not even jaywalking and such. They're also not brash, boisterous, or obnoxious. Great manners.

One might be tempted to pass judgment on our own culture.. but we're just different, they're not necessarily better. We Americans may not be so orderly, but we're also more creative and innovative. Two sides of a coin there.. suppressing the individual in favor of the group makes for a smoother society but it also allows for a situation like Japan in WWII -- the whole nation was ready to die for the Emperor. They're not looting for the same reasons that Japanese signed up to be Kamikazee pilots -- the group is valued over the individual, even to extremes that we can't understand.

To a degree I suppose this difference, group over individual, extends to Asia in general. So while we Americans may loot and jaywalk and have all kinds of other problems, one thing you'll never see here is Kim Jong Il style group insanity.

That's what it all comes down to, a difference in degree of individualism.
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Re: Why is there no looting in Japan?

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Thu 17 Mar 2011, 04:27:10

People are out foraging for food, which was "looting" when black people did it after katrina.

Also, the destruction is much more total than anything we've ever seen in the US. Is it looting to look for canned goods in a 15 foot pile of rubble?

Keep in mind that the Japanese legal system is quite ruthless at getting convictions Their politeness used to be enforced by routine use of torture until the 20th (?) century. Their modern standards of punishment would be quite inhumane by our standards with solitary, routine beatings, no heat and maybe no blanket either.

Also, since the Japanese have no guns you don't have people shooting each other for fun like after katrina. Whites were shooting black people randomly included a retarded kid, people in their front yard, black people that were lawfully reporting to official evacuation sites. Several cops have pled guilty to murder for killing blacks and a number of whites can be seen bragging about shooting blacks on youtube.
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Re: Why is there no looting in Japan?

Unread postby americandream » Thu 17 Mar 2011, 04:38:43

Timmac

You can't resist pushing the police state conservative agenda even during times of tragedy I see. What a sad, pathetic excuse for a human.
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Re: Why is there no looting in Japan?

Unread postby Novus » Thu 17 Mar 2011, 08:01:21

It is part of their culture. Death before dishonor is part of their societal norms. You won't see that here in America where there is no culture. It is all about the individual accumulating personal wealth and only bad things happen when you get caught.
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Re: Why is there no looting in Japan?

Unread postby sparky » Thu 17 Mar 2011, 08:42:51

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Japanese are very community conscious , don't have guns
and more importantly , there is no police left in the stricken zone
people in the Tsunami zone have massive problems with lack of food
the survivors seems to do a fair bit of scavenging ,there was a footage on SBS of people
filling bags of some cans lying around and siphoning petrol from the wrecked cars
if it's for one's needs it's not looting ,
if it's a plasma TV it is
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Re: Why is there no looting in Japan?

Unread postby Crazy_Dad » Thu 17 Mar 2011, 09:03:49

As a member of Sea Shepherd, I had no love of the Japanese fishing/whaling practices.
They are self defeating and ultimately will cause extinction of fish and then humanity.

What I DO have is total respect for their community and discipline in the situation they now face.

I really respect the teachings in the Hagakure. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagakure

My thoughts are with them at their time of need.
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Re: Why is there no looting in Japan?

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Thu 17 Mar 2011, 14:01:40

Because they aren't Christian?
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Re: Why is there no looting in Japan?

Unread postby vision-master » Thu 17 Mar 2011, 14:29:13

No N'ers? :roll:
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Re: Why is there no looting in Japan?

Unread postby WhatDoWeDoNow » Thu 17 Mar 2011, 15:15:37

Because Japan doesn't have the extremes of rich and poor of some countries - usually 3rd world despots, the US and Britain - due to progressive taxation. So when there is a disaster and laws can no longer be enforced there isn't a huge underclass of "HaveNots" that thinks that this is an opportunity for it to revenge themselves on the "Haves". In a "Socialist" (what the teabaggers would call it) state people feel like they have a vested interest in their society and will protect it when it is threatened. :)
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Re: Why is there no looting in Japan?

Unread postby jimmyz » Thu 17 Mar 2011, 15:27:39

PrestonSturges wrote:People are out foraging for food, which was "looting" when black people did it after katrina.

Also, the destruction is much more total than anything we've ever seen in the US. Is it looting to look for canned goods in a 15 foot pile of rubble?

Keep in mind that the Japanese legal system is quite ruthless at getting convictions Their politeness used to be enforced by routine use of torture until the 20th (?) century. Their modern standards of punishment would be quite inhumane by our standards with solitary, routine beatings, no heat and maybe no blanket either.

Also, since the Japanese have no guns you don't have people shooting each other for fun like after katrina. Whites were shooting black people randomly included a retarded kid, people in their front yard, black people that were lawfully reporting to official evacuation sites. Several cops have pled guilty to murder for killing blacks and a number of whites can be seen bragging about shooting blacks on youtube.


What go to such lengths to point out "blacks" and "whites" i guarantee you "blacks" where not the only one looting and "whites" where not the only one shooting people just look at todays news. How many People where shot today in New Orleans just for the fun of it.
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Re: Why is there no looting in Japan?

Unread postby americandream » Thu 17 Mar 2011, 15:45:02

Novus wrote:It is part of their culture. Death before dishonor is part of their societal norms. You won't see that here in America where there is no culture. It is all about the individual accumulating personal wealth and only bad things happen when you get caught.


Death before dishonour has always struck me as singularly effective in controlling the masses in hierarchical systems. To the degree where they obediently march to theior collective deaths rather than confront what is evident widespread mismanangement of very dangerous technology on a rather unsteady island.
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Re: Why is there no looting in Japan?

Unread postby americandream » Thu 17 Mar 2011, 15:49:56

WhatDoWeDoNow wrote:Because Japan doesn't have the extremes of rich and poor of some countries - usually 3rd world despots, the US and Britain - due to progressive taxation. So when there is a disaster and laws can no longer be enforced there isn't a huge underclass of "HaveNots" that thinks that this is an opportunity for it to revenge themselves on the "Haves". In a "Socialist" (what the teabaggers would call it) state people feel like they have a vested interest in their society and will protect it when it is threatened. :)


It's such relatively egalitarian paradoxes as Japan that have kept the unequal societies in the West, ME, Africa and elsewhere funded and equipped with the latest fad. To a large extent, this will change that and alter the dynamics of global capitalism somewhat.
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Re: Why is there no looting in Japan?

Unread postby vision-master » Thu 17 Mar 2011, 15:58:24

looting katrina
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Re: Why is there no looting in Japan?

Unread postby jimmyz » Thu 17 Mar 2011, 16:02:19

still doesn't answer the question though. nice pic though
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Re: Why is there no looting in Japan?

Unread postby americandream » Thu 17 Mar 2011, 16:06:38

vision-master wrote:looting katrina
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Heck no. That wasn't looting. One of your grey friends from planet spacecadet dropped them off a trolley of supplies.
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Re: Why is there no looting in Japan?

Unread postby vision-master » Thu 17 Mar 2011, 16:08:42

jimmyz wrote:still doesn't answer the question though. nice pic though


Google 'looting katrina' pictures......
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