[Keith_McClary]

Pepsi 'cracks code' with all plant bottle

Pepsi unveiled a new bottle yesterday made entirely of plant material that it says beats the technology of competitor Coca-Cola and reduces bottles' carbon footprint.

The bottle is made from switch grass, pine bark, corn husks and other materials. Ultimately, Pepsi plans to also use orange peels, oat hulls, potato scraps and other leftovers from its food business.

We don't need no steenkin' petrochemicals.

[Fishman]

Poor Pepsi, they make a "plant" bottle but their sales are dropping. Turns out have a logo that looks like the Obama election logo if far more toxic to sales than they dreamed. Thank you libs for inspiration! Hey everyone, stop buying Pepsi products until they remove that repulsive logo!

[Pops]

I'd like to see Pimentel do a study on how much petroleum that bottle saves....

[seahorse3]

I'm all for it. It at least solves the problem of plastic bottles hanging around for a few hundred years, floating in the oceans, etc.

[basil_hayden]

$20 says it lasts longer in a landfill but burns great in a trash to energy plant.

[PrestonSturges]

That sounds like a very valuable patent for Pepsi

[JRP3]

Poor Pepsi, they make a "plant" bottle but their sales are dropping. Turns out have a logo that looks like the Obama election logo if far more toxic to sales than they dreamed. Thank you libs for inspiration! Hey everyone, stop buying Pepsi products until they remove that repulsive logo!

Dumbest post ever?

[vision-master]

Dumbest poster ever (F) man.....

[Sixstrings]

My guess is making these bottles is pretty complex.. I wonder what the EROEI is.

How much oil does it take to produce the "plant" bottle vs just turning the oil straight to plastic without all the extra steps.

[vision-master]

6, they will be using 'Rossi Energy Amplifier' tech pretty soon.

Oil will be passe.

Peak Oil will be a non-event.

[Sixstrings]

6, they will be using 'Rossi Energy Amplifier' tech pretty soon.

Oil will be passe.

Peak Oil will be a non-event.

All I know is..

It takes OIL to grow and transport every veggie on that list. And it takes OIL to cook it all up in a lab. At the end of the day, you just have oil jumping through all kinds of hoops to make a soda bottle while it's less energy intensive to go straight from oil to plastic.

Although.. if they can use a high percentage of food waste from one source (like their food operations) then the EROEI *might* be positive but I still have my doubts. Even then, why not compost the food waste and then save on petro fertilizer.

[careinke]

6, they will be using 'Rossi Energy Amplifier' tech pretty soon.

Oil will be passe.

Peak Oil will be a non-event.

All I know is..

It takes OIL to grow and transport every veggie on that list. And it takes OIL to cook it all up in a lab. At the end of the day, you just have oil jumping through all kinds of hoops to make a soda bottle while it's less energy intensive to go straight from oil to plastic.

Although.. if they can use a high percentage of food waste from one source (like their food operations) then the EROEI *might* be positive but I still have my doubts. Even then, why not compost the food waste and then save on petro fertilizer.

If the end product, (the bottle), will degrade naturally, I would be OK with a higher energy production costs. Plastic is nasty stuff.

[americandream]

Now this is the sort of tech that could be a game changer, especially if it can be tweaked to be bio-degradeable after a certain shelf time.

[americandream]

Poor Pepsi, they make a "plant" bottle but their sales are dropping. Turns out have a logo that looks like the Obama election logo if far more toxic to sales than they dreamed. Thank you libs for inspiration! Hey everyone, stop buying Pepsi products until they remove that repulsive logo!

Someone show this dinosaur the door.

[Fishman]

Yea, I'll admit that one was pretty bad myself. It's just so easy to mock this clown I slipped on my quality standards. Thanks for the heads up guys.

[vision-master]

Fish, their all clowns, haven't you figured this out yet?

[Fishman]

Perhaps you are right.
Some make me laugh more than others.

[vision-master]

Well, Obama sure has turned against J6P.

and I'm a hard core Dem.

It's those 'hidden hands' that are runing the show. I ones we never hear about. Also, there are so many levels of Gov that are accountable to no one, like the FBI, CIA, Nasa and so on.

[JRP3]

All I know is..

It takes OIL to grow and transport every veggie on that list. And it takes OIL to cook it all up in a lab. At the end of the day, you just have oil jumping through all kinds of hoops to make a soda bottle while it's less energy intensive to go straight from oil to plastic.

Not sure it takes any oil to "cook it all up in a lab", unless they deep fry it. Labs are powered by electricity, which is mostly produced from nuclear, hydro, ng, and coal, with maybe 1% of total generation from petroleum.

[americandream]

All I know is..

It takes OIL to grow and transport every veggie on that list. And it takes OIL to cook it all up in a lab. At the end of the day, you just have oil jumping through all kinds of hoops to make a soda bottle while it's less energy intensive to go straight from oil to plastic.

Not sure it takes any oil to "cook it all up in a lab", unless they deep fry it. Labs are powered by electricity, which is mostly produced from nuclear, hydro, ng, and coal, with maybe 1% of total generation from petroleum.

What do you think they use to forge and assemble those facilities, fairy dust?