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D.S. Kahn - what do you think?

Unread postby alokin » Tue 17 May 2011, 04:23:27

I rarely post, but I read.
Hopefully, this question is not too much conspiracy- leaning.
I have a very strong feeling that there is something wrong with this story, but I don't have evidence.
It's a bit like the Clinton story or the Assange story. I mean it seems to be difficult to get evidence for the criminal acts DSK did. Is it possible that he went into a trap (I don't really think that he's innocent, or what does a Socialist do in a $3000/night suite?).
And if this is right (it might as well be wrong), then who wants to get rid of him and why? And does this has a connection with the European financial problems?
Now call me a tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist!
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Re: D.S. Kahn - what do you think?

Unread postby sparky » Tue 17 May 2011, 05:03:58

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There is a long tradition in French politics to disregard personal affairs from public life
President Mitterrand was living with his long time lover , away from his wife ,
for years while in function , the fact was known but became public when he picked up his natural daughter after she completed her baccalaureate exams ,
he took her to lunch in a famous restaurant ,
a few chosen journalists were informed , it was a public acknowledgment

president Pompidou's wife was blackmailed , for having gang-bang parties, by one of his own minister
he leaked the fact to the communist party , the secretary general had a discrete talk with the president and told him , they would be quiet about it ,
they hated his policies but didn't do this kind of thing

Monseigner Danielou archbishop of Paris died of a heart attack while "confessing" a plum lady parishioner ,she knew him for a long time and he was nearly eighty ,
the French shrugged they shoulders and though it was nice to have an heterosexual
priest and gave him national funerals

president Chirac was a devoted husband , beside his four children they adopted a couple of orphans one a Vietnamese but he shagged everything with a skirt ,
he was quite a nice guy , supposedly a lousy laid

Mr Strauss Khan is a scumbag , preying on the most vulnerable of women ,
either they are afraid or don't speak the language or the hotels don't care for the attention
this behavior is not one off , it has a pattern of abuse
he could have had paid for it , that's OK , but the cheap bastard didn't
he preferred to use his influence to get away with it

By French standard this is grossly unacceptable , the noble preying on the scutlelry maid
that's what the guillotine was made for

There is sin , and the good lord is forgiving , and then there is abuse of power and it must be crushed

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Re: D.S. Kahn - what do you think?

Unread postby alokin » Tue 17 May 2011, 05:33:48

I don't say that he's innocent. If it's true it's simply disgusting. But that does not answer the question weather someone did want to get rid of him. How many in similar positions are decent people?
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Re: D.S. Kahn - what do you think?

Unread postby davep » Tue 17 May 2011, 05:44:31

The French press has just last week been smearing D.S. Kahn with stories of him living the high life. Photos of him in a Porsche (not his) and allegations that he spends 35000 Euros on his suits (also not true) were circulating.

There is talk that Sarkozy's UMP party is initiating the smear, because D.S. Kahn is the most popular candidate for the French Presidential elections of 2012.

I fear that this rape thing is a further dirty trick set up by the French secret services.
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Re: D.S. Kahn - what do you think?

Unread postby Mesuge » Tue 17 May 2011, 05:50:08

There is a recent interview with DSK where he hints he could be axed by similar incident in the near future. Also, that particular NY hotel belongs to a french chain, it's highly probable that french security services are monitoring it on some basis 24/7.

Basically, the geopolitical setting of today, the national politics given the timing are highly questionable. Certainly there could be a number of sovereign actors or even alliances to at least mount "character assassination" on him personally, and/or temporarily cripple the current IMF's agenda, plus also sending another visible warning for all "establishment" staffers to hang on to the prevailing paradigm.

I'm not discounting the "nominal ver. aka the pervert rampage version" of events, most likely we (the plebs) don't and won't have the information necessary to settle it down beyond reasonable doubt in the near future.

PS allegedly DSK married into the wealth, besides in Europe it's not that unusual to have "socialist" head honcho from deep pocketed circles, if he can deliver on promises (jobs, health/social care). In fact, being eurosocialist of this era equals some sort of "global-capitalist lite" background. Far left is to be found somewhere even beyond communists, i.e. various anarcho groups. That only shows, how skewed to the right the US politics has always been..
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Re: D.S. Kahn - what do you think?

Unread postby alokin » Tue 17 May 2011, 06:38:41

It could be the French election, that is an easy and very probable answer.
Is there something on his agenda as a boss of the IMF which was disliked by others?
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Re: D.S. Kahn - what do you think?

Unread postby Mesuge » Tue 17 May 2011, 06:57:21

As mentioned above and in other threads, WB and IMF used to be the pillars of the post WWII "Washington consensus" paradigm aka the transatlantic (US+eu)hegemony over most of the globe. Recently, especially after the 2008 financial meltdown there seems to be quite strong rift emerging, IMF under european leadership started to attack US deficit spending, nonsupport for global finance taxing schemes etc. Basically, the old world order is falling apart, it's turbulent time, now they are playing about how to hastily patch up the new order including the emerging BRIC block and other developing nations asking their place at the table. This is a process, which is in itself only acknowledgement of the long-term defeat.
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Re: D.S. Kahn - what do you think?

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Tue 17 May 2011, 08:48:17

Regardless what have happened in that hotel or not it is nice to observe how global elites are jumping to each other throats.
It is nice to observe power struggle between those powerful.
Hey, the days of current edition of global financial system are already counted...
That is just one minute piece contributing to destruction of global order, old or new, doesn't matter.
Insignificant in itself but numbers are adding up.

As I have always said:
Long live collapse!
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Re: D.S. Kahn - what do you think?

Unread postby sparky » Tue 17 May 2011, 08:54:20

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Strauss Khan was famously for the public taxpayer picking up the tab for moronic lending by the large European banks , they have lost a good friend and the influence of BNP and Societe generale is way above mere mucky politics ,this is big money ,
the chambermaid probably ended costing 30 billions to the whole world financial centers and could tip the bucket on a couple of countries , considering she is paid , what , 50 bucks per shift
Sarkozy , the putative beneficiary of the present embarrassment could hardly boil an egg
the French secret services rather hate him and have been leaking all the dirt they could on him
so he wouldn't trust them to do anything for him
that leave the good ol' CIA and the usual suspect the mossad , but no cigar there either
Strauss Khan is a good buddy for both sides , the Chinese wouldn't have a clue about this kind of thing and the Russians couldn't care less .

OK , I get it it was the Brazilians , they might end up with the IMF chairmanship , perhaps
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Re: D.S. Kahn - what do you think?

Unread postby Mesuge » Tue 17 May 2011, 09:08:30

Your view is rather simplistic, firstly there are several "secret" agencies operating in each and every gov./state, and there are strong rivalities as well as splinter groups with different priorities inside each of those and obviously linkages to the private sphere/mil-industrial complex, int. banking etc.

It's interesting how the "weakish" Sarko is able to command the military to pummel Libya with almost everything they have available, while on the other hand he is supposedly "hated" and sidelined by most of his secret agencies..

The idea that DSK championed domestic elite financial groups supposedly speaks for what? There are several powerfull banking houses in Europe or on the global level, sometimes cooperating, often times competing. At one junction their interests collide or work in synchro with other big int. players, incl. state actors/burreaucracy, on other "projects" they part their ways completely.

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Re: D.S. Kahn - what do you think?

Unread postby eXpat » Tue 17 May 2011, 15:14:40

I don´t think he is innocent at all (at that level no one is), but if this was not covered up, is because someone wants his head.
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Re: D.S. Kahn - what do you think?

Unread postby Sixstrings » Thu 19 May 2011, 18:05:07

Here's my thinking on this. The victim is a devout muslim immigrant from Africa. There was a culture and language barrier here. It's possible that in his view, she was consensually participating.. whereas the woman, coming from a culture where women are submissive, perhaps didn't make it clear to the extent a Western woman would that the encounter was non-consensual.

We can can all say it's disgusting, a bigshot having sex with the hotel maid, but fact is tacky sex if consensual is not illegal. It all comes down to what she says.. and this is the power women have. It may not matter what the man says or thinks, it's all up to the woman -- if she says it was rape then that's it, you're goin' away for 10-20.

So anyhow there needs to be a fair and vigorous trial here. He should be presumed innocent unless proven guilty.. you can't presume she is telling the truth just because she's poor, or just because she's an immigrant, or just because she's a woman.

A few things don't add up.. she called a "friend" shortly after the alleged attack. According to the article I read, the male friend advised her not to say anything and he would get an attorney to represent her. I think I saw this "friend" on TV doing a press conference.. seems like he's a community leader of some kind. That's awfully quick, getting representation that fast.. most middle class and even moderately wealthy victims of crime don't get their own legal representation so soon in the process. So it indicates they knew who this man was, that he's very rich.

On the other hand, I read something about scratches. This thing just needs to have a trial; if he has scratches on him then it's hard to argue this could have been consensual. But if there are no scratches or signs of a struggle.. my concern is that it's never right for *regret* over having sex to be made into a rape charge. Those are two different things, and unfortunately there are cases where after the fact regret over consenting to sex turns into a charge of rape.
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Re: D.S. Kahn - what do you think?

Unread postby FairMaiden » Fri 20 May 2011, 02:46:38

This article sums up my theory exactly:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=24867

Sorry I can't quote, I'm too lazy to learn these things.
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Re: D.S. Kahn - what do you think?

Unread postby cipi604 » Fri 20 May 2011, 03:02:09

He published the report regarding USA being surpassed by China in 5 years or so. More than that, he started to disagree with the politico-economics of the american elite, and through him being arrested, the american elite sent a clear message: we still rule everything.
It is called "honey trap" and it is not the first time that they use it.
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Re: D.S. Kahn - what do you think?

Unread postby ian807 » Fri 20 May 2011, 08:37:11

Obvious set up.

This guy can afford the best uh, services available. He risks everything for a hotel maid? Doubtful, to say the least.
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