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Wildfire: USA NUCLEAR Mandatory Evacuation underway Now!

Unread postby KevO » Thu 30 Jun 2011, 19:25:31

http://youtu.be/TEU_iG_aHa0
Breaking News 3 U.S. Nuclear Power Plants are now in Danger!
http://youtu.be/TEU_iG_aHa0
Update to Video: Now 2 plants undergoing Mandatory Evacuations! Evac. underway at Location surrounding 2 of the 3 Plants.
12,000 People have been evacuated in Los Alamos for fear of the Plant catching fire as the Wild Fires are 0% contained and out of control at the present time!

Fires have already sparked one fire at the Los Alamos lab but it was contained. Forecast of winds make the fires direction unpredictable and at present the fire is right across the road from the Los Alamos plant.

In reports from Nuclear watchdog groups there are 30,000 barrels of Plutonium contaminated waste in 55 gallon barrels being stored in tents on the property that are in danger of catching fire with the possibility of spreading a radioactive plum.

In Nebraska the Fort Calhoun Nuclear Plant Main Building is Underwater and the Nuclear Regulatory Commission has now put mandatory evacuation in place for a square 10 mile area. The 10 mile evac may seem like they are at least taking a step in the right direction until one comes to the realization that the 10 mile radius invoked is actually a outdated guideline procedure that has not changed since 1978! with that in mind and the fact that the dams up-steam are about to burst as they are filling up to max capacity. it may be time to start to prepare in one way or another.
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Re: BREAKING: NUCLEAR Mandatory Evacuation underway Now!

Unread postby KevO » Thu 30 Jun 2011, 19:30:17

http://hawaiinewsdaily.com/2011/06/fukushima-spews-los-alamos-burns-vermont-rages-we-almost-lost-nebraska/
Humankind is now threatened by the simultaneous implosion, explosion, incineration, courtroom contempt and drowning of its most lethal industry.

We know only two things for certain: worse is yet to come, and those in charge are lying about it—at least to the extent of what they actually know, which is nowhere near enough.

Indeed, the assurances from the nuke power industry continue to flow like the floodwaters now swamping the Missouri Valley heartland.

But major breakthroughs have come from a Pennsylvania Senator and New York’s Governor on issues of evacuation and shut-down. And a public campaign for an end to loan guarantees could put an end to the US industry once and for all.........
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Re: BREAKING: USA NUCLEAR Mandatory Evacuation underway Now!

Unread postby John_A » Thu 30 Jun 2011, 19:57:36

KevO wrote:In reports from Nuclear watchdog groups there are 30,000 barrels of Plutonium contaminated waste in 55 gallon barrels being stored in tents on the property that are in danger of catching fire with the possibility of spreading a radioactive plum.


Is a radioactive plum better or worse than the regular kind?

This all sounds pretty serious KevO. On the "gee should I run-o-meter" does this rank right up there with the radioactive fallout which contaminated the west coast from the Fukishima radioactive release which didn't appear to even kill off the odd rat, or is this more of a run of the mill one which may not be noticed by any marsupial at all?
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Re: BREAKING: USA NUCLEAR Mandatory Evacuation underway Now!

Unread postby KevO » Thu 30 Jun 2011, 19:59:35

No, you'll be fine. Nothing happened at Fukishima :roll:
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Re: BREAKING: USA NUCLEAR Mandatory Evacuation underway Now!

Unread postby John_A » Thu 30 Jun 2011, 20:08:13

KevO wrote:No, you'll be fine. Nothing happened at Fukishima :roll:


Actually, lots happened at Fukishima. But if politicians would just ban earthquakes and tsunamis, we could all rest easier at night without worrying about the followup industrial accidents.
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Re: BREAKING: USA NUCLEAR Mandatory Evacuation underway Now!

Unread postby seahorse3 » Fri 01 Jul 2011, 08:27:40

Unfortunately, we can't get the animals to stay out of the exclusion zones, and thus at Fuko we have earless rabbits being born and now whales testing positive for radioactivity. However, for all the humans, they probably ought to follow the evac order and get out of the 10 mile exclusion zone, radioactive plum cloud or not.
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Re: BREAKING: USA NUCLEAR Mandatory Evacuation underway Now!

Unread postby Timo » Fri 01 Jul 2011, 09:36:58

Not to worry, Folks. Nucyular is THE way to go. It's safe, almost harmless, and is the obvious way forward to insure an energy plentiful future. Forget the solar crowd because as we all know, the sun doesn't shine at night. Forget the wind crowd because as we all know, the appearance of wind turbines on the horizon creates an aesthetic accpetance curve similar to the construction of grain elevators that are visible from 30 miles away! Forget the geothermal crowd because as we all know, no real Americans actually understand it, and we all don't live next to a volcano. Clean, safe solutions that provide literally endless amounts of free energy just aren't worth the financial price of lobbying for their adoption. Utility companies don't stand to gain anything if everyone has unlimited free energy. That would be a very bad thing and would cost millionaires their jobs. Yikes! :?
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Re: BREAKING: USA NUCLEAR Mandatory Evacuation underway Now!

Unread postby pup55 » Fri 01 Jul 2011, 09:48:38

30,000 barrels of Plutonium contaminated waste in 55 gallon barrels


I can hardly wait for the "Saturday Night Live" skit on this...

p.s. the Ft. Calhoun post above is BS: There is no evacuation of that area, except to avoid the flood, the plant has been shut down since April, and it's just normal news up there, in the metro area of 1 million located 15 miles downstream of there.

http://www.wowt.com/home/headlines/OPPD ... 05214.html
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Re: BREAKING: USA NUCLEAR Mandatory Evacuation underway Now!

Unread postby Sixstrings » Fri 01 Jul 2011, 11:01:57

KevO wrote:No, you'll be fine. Nothing happened at Fukishima :roll:


I didn't save the link, but I read an article that said radiation was detected in Fukoshima children's urine.. including that cessium stuff.

But as for Ft. Calhoun.. wouldn't there be an evacuation anyway just because of the flooding?

With Los Alamos.. I don't know, one would just ASSUME all the barrels under tents on tarmac aren't vulnerable. What's strange is why they don't keep brush and trees cleared within a very healthy radius of that stuff. Since it's a top secret base, thing is we'll never know if anything happens or not.
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Re: BREAKING: USA NUCLEAR Mandatory Evacuation underway Now!

Unread postby gnm » Fri 01 Jul 2011, 12:16:32

The "30,000 barrels of plutonium" is hype - it is a lot (20,000 barrels) - but it is plutonium contaminated waste (not reactor waste) Mostly contaminated gloves, clothing etc...- considered low level and was planned to be sequestered in WIPP. Los Alamos was evacuated not because of danger of radiation release but because of the danger of the wildfire. Its not like the barrels are sitting in a forest or masses of brush and are in high danger of catching fire. Forest and brush ARE kept cleared well away. I have been there...

It looks like the danger to Los Alamos proper (the town and the lab) is passing (the backburns are working) But this is a horrendous fire (state record size now) and it is still progressing into fuel rich forest lands and will continue to threaten numerous small towns.

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Re: BREAKING: USA NUCLEAR Mandatory Evacuation underway Now!

Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Fri 01 Jul 2011, 14:06:25

Clearly Fukishima reminded us ALL that there is lots of potential danger in Nuclear power, especially when the plants are run poorly, aging unsafe designs aren't shut down, etc. (As always, cost trumps safety until proven otherwise -- in spades).

Media (or bogosphere) hysteria like this shows the heightened awareness.

This might be a good thing for the first world if it FORCES politicians to mandate some sort of reasonable balance of cost, enforced safety standards, etc.

I'd actually prefer to see worries like this of POTENTIAL problems like the Texas wildfires garner national attention/concern, than just have everyone go back to sleep and into "not my problem - it's a Japanese problem" mode -- which happens FAR too often after one-time energy fiascos.
Given the track record of the perma-doomer blogs, I wouldn't bet a fast crash doomer's money on their predictions.
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Re: BREAKING: USA NUCLEAR Mandatory Evacuation underway Now!

Unread postby Timo » Fri 01 Jul 2011, 17:05:43

Something to consider regarding nukes and safety and aging reactors and cooling systems - Japan, Russia, and the US are 1st World countries with the (supposed) financial abilities to safely and effectively maintain our nuke plants WITHOUT risking public disaster. Granted, thus trust seems to have been misplaced as evidenced by several nuclear disasters around the world recently, but just imagine the horror of a 3rd World country being entrusted to run a nuke plant WITHOUT the monetary and physical resources necessary to continue safe operations indefinitely. Don't even think about the consequences of throwing something unexpected like an earthquake or a flood or a fire, or a tsunami in the mix. In that case, end of story. Weapons aside, there are lots of other reasons to be opposed to the proliferation of nuclear technologies around the world.
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Re: BREAKING: USA NUCLEAR Mandatory Evacuation underway Now!

Unread postby PhebaAndThePilgrim » Fri 01 Jul 2011, 19:21:25

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Re: BREAKING: USA NUCLEAR Mandatory Evacuation underway Now!

Unread postby John_A » Fri 01 Jul 2011, 19:27:51

Outcast_Searcher wrote:Clearly Fukishima reminded us ALL that there is lots of potential danger in Nuclear power, especially when the plants are run poorly, aging unsafe designs aren't shut down, etc. (As always, cost trumps safety until proven otherwise -- in spades).


Certainly we are all more aware that earthquakes, and their aftermath, are quite dangerous.

Outcast_Searcher wrote:Media (or bogosphere) hysteria like this shows the heightened awareness.


Is that what they do? Or could it better be described as just making stuff up and hyping it into the stratosphere?

Outcast_Searcher wrote:This might be a good thing for the first world if it FORCES politicians to mandate some sort of reasonable balance of cost, enforced safety standards, etc.


That was exactly what happened at Fukishima. Someone decided they should include backup power supplies, containment vessels, well trained personnel, etc etc. The place survived an earthquake beyond its design paramters, an excellent case for how well the engineers of the original design did.

Can't the politicians just legislate that all earthquakes must stop, and make it a felony punishable by fines and such if they create tsunamis?
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Re: BREAKING: USA NUCLEAR Mandatory Evacuation underway Now!

Unread postby Anvil » Fri 01 Jul 2011, 20:42:38

It like nature has just declared war on mankind for being stupid enough to adopt nuclear power as a power source.
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