[quadzillajim]

So don't worry so much. We may have some hard times ahead during the transition but there have always been hard times throughout history. My best advice is try to be lucky

[John_A]

So don't worry so much. We may have some hard times ahead during the transition but there have always been hard times throughout history. My best advice is try to be lucky

Thanks. I was starting to get worried about this peak oil stuff. I feel better now.

[peripato]

So don't worry so much. We may have some hard times ahead during the transition but there have always been hard times throughout history. My best advice is try to be lucky

Thanks. I was starting to get worried about this peak oil stuff. I feel better now.

Yeah, overshoot was getting to be a real bummer there for a while. Keeping our heads stuck up our arses, now there's the solution.

[John_A]

So don't worry so much. We may have some hard times ahead during the transition but there have always been hard times throughout history. My best advice is try to be lucky

Thanks. I was starting to get worried about this peak oil stuff. I feel better now.

Yeah, overshoot was getting to be a real bummer there for a while. Keeping our heads stuck up our arses, now there's the solution.

If we counted the number of times the end of humanity has been predicted since this website was formed, would that number be higher or lower than the number of times it actually happened?

[eXpat]

So don't worry so much. We may have some hard times ahead during the transition but there have always been hard times throughout history. My best advice is try to be lucky

Well thanks! That´s very reassuring. I´m after some horseshoes now and maybe a rabbit's foot, so I get lucky as you said, and luck powers up my house and puts food on the table.

[peripato]

So don't worry so much. We may have some hard times ahead during the transition but there have always been hard times throughout history. My best advice is try to be lucky

Thanks. I was starting to get worried about this peak oil stuff. I feel better now.

Yeah, overshoot was getting to be a real bummer there for a while. Keeping our heads stuck up our arses, now there's the solution.

If we counted the number of times the end of humanity has been predicted since this website was formed, would that number be higher or lower than the number of times it actually happened?

Umm, what has this website, or anyone's opinion in it, got to do with overshoot?

[John_A]

If we counted the number of times the end of humanity has been predicted since this website was formed, would that number be higher or lower than the number of times it actually happened?

Umm, what has this website, or anyone's opinion in it, got to do with overshoot?

Nobody cares about overshoot, but peak oil is important?

[kiwichick]

unfortunately peak energy very much does exist

which is just as well for us

imagine if the energy from our nearest star kept on increasing

[Pops]

Jim lives in Vegas, a place built on luck.

[quadzillajim]

Jim lives in Vegas, a place built on luck.

People that believe Vegas was built on luck are extremely naive. Ya the casinos got lucky and took all your money . To tell the truth, believe it or not the casinos know all the odds.

[kpeavey]

Dude, you need to lay off the smack.

[Pops]

Jim lives in Vegas, a place built on luck.

People that believe Vegas was built on luck are extremely naive. Ya the casinos got lucky and took all your money . To tell the truth, believe it or not the casinos know all the odds.

I didn't say Vegas or casinos are lucky, I said Vegas was built on luck...

...built on the money of people "trying to be lucky", to use your phrase, get it?

You know, "marks" - the people betting against the house (or buying a house in the desert) because they felt lucky?

Kinda pointing out in my droll, sardonic way how successful your "try to be lucky" advice turns out for the average guy where you live - even before peak oil.

Thought that would have beeen obvious without a lot of explanation. Guess not.

[ColossalContrarian]

Peak Energy is a bad term on it's own, how can you have a Peak in something that isn't created or destroyed? Why not call it Even Steven Energy. Maybe create another term like Peak Energy Storage since Petroleum is such a convenient way of storing energy.

[Lore]

Jim lives in Vegas, a place built on luck.

People that believe Vegas was built on luck are extremely naive. Ya the casinos got lucky and took all your money . To tell the truth, believe it or not the casinos know all the odds.

I didn't say Vegas or casinos are lucky, I said Vegas was built on luck...

...built on the money of people "trying to be lucky", to use your phrase, get it?

You know, "marks" - the people betting against the house (or buying a house in the desert) because they felt lucky?

Kinda pointing out in my droll, sardonic way how successful your "try to be lucky" advice turns out for the average guy where you live - even before peak oil.

Thought that would have beeen obvious without a lot of explanation. Guess not.

Forget the casinos and luck. They'll be lucky to find a glass of water in the not too distant future. What idiot would build, let alone, live in a city of that size placed in the middle of a desert.

[sicophiliac]

Eh I think the general point he was trying to make is that even though oil itself will peak in production, the net energy available to humanity through other means isn't anywhere near maxed out. I mean solar, wind, geothermal and tidal all in theory can supply enough energy for the human race many many times over. If you go to space based solar or figure out fusion power then the sky is the limit. Will we be able to effectively use these energy sources is another question. Will we be able to replace oil as a transportation fuel is another question.

We may be in for a bumpy ride along the way and historically speaking, it may last longer than any of us will be alive. It might take a few hundreds years for us to rebound and for civilization to get back on its feet again.

[peeker01]

And until those technologies are discovered and implemented, we have NG, LNG, and propane
to get us through. And yes, the EV will fit in there too.

[kiwichick]

while most people in the rich countries may muddle though ,
the current course is effectively genocide for the majority of people in developing countries

[peeker01]

while most people in the rich countries may muddle though ,
the current course is effectively genocide for the majority of people in developing countries

How so?

[kiwichick]

law of supply and demand

only the rich will afford the cost of comodities

[Outcast_Searcher]

unfortunately peak energy very much does exist

which is just as well for us

imagine if the energy from our nearest star kept on increasing

Actually, as far as the sun's energy that reaches the earth -- that WILL tend, as a big trend, to increase for roughly the next 5 billion years, according to current scientific theory.

At that point our sun will be a red giant, and will have engulfed earth, and burnt it to a cinder.

...

The flip side to that is that in the short term (say the next 100 or 1 million years or so), there is PLENTY of reliable solar energy constantly pouring onto the planet, if we can just learn how to harness it efficiently, and quit (with the stupidity of bacteria) growing our population exponentially.

But no worries -- we will have destroyed ourselves LONG before the "long end" of that short term time frame, and we will richly deserve our fate.