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Unread postby timmac » Sat 06 Aug 2011, 15:33:00

The U.N.’s Agenda 21 Section II Chapter 14 makes it very clear that world governments intend to take over every aspect of the agricultural community and food production in the global interest of “sustainable development.” Agenda 21 was launched by the United Nations in 1992 at the Earth Conference in Rio de Janiero. 178 countries signed on to its tenets including George H. W. Bush. President Clinton, in the following year, established by executive order the President’s Council on Sustainable Development. The council’s purpose was to implement Agenda 21 and it published its first report, “Sustainable America” in 1996.

http://sleeplessandtired.com/?p=3277
And heres one for your small hobby farmers, this one is aimed at people like Pop's
Food Safety Bill Signed into Law
The Food Safety Modernization Act will give the FDA more power to regulate unsafe foods but continue to protect small-farm rights.

http://www.hobbyfarms.com/farm-industry-news/2011/01/04/food-safety-bill-awaits-signature.aspx
America is not ran by Americans anymore, Obama has crashed this country with trillions in debt, lost our AAA rating, sold us down the river to UN, what next Obama Marshall Law.. Welcome to the New World Order
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Re: Communist Trader in the White House

Unread postby timmac » Sat 06 Aug 2011, 15:39:11

Agenda 21 For Dummies

http://youtu.be/TzEEgtOFFlM

Barack Ocommie - Obama's Communist Marxist Influences

http://youtu.be/zIxILQaZwUI


Obama will Convert USA into Communist Country

http://youtu.be/aLD2LM7kBzk
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Re: Communist Traitor in the White House

Unread postby davep » Sat 06 Aug 2011, 15:57:45

The U.N.’s Agenda 21 Section II Chapter 14 makes it very clear that world governments intend to take over every aspect of the agricultural community and food production in the global interest of “sustainable development.”


Surely global sustainable development in agriculture is a good thing?
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Re: Communist Traitor in the White House

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Sat 06 Aug 2011, 16:08:46

timmac wrote:
The U.N.’s Agenda 21 Section II Chapter 14 makes it very clear that world governments intend to take over every aspect of the agricultural community and food production in the global interest of “sustainable development.” ...
America is not ran by Americans anymore, Obama has crashed this country with trillions in debt, lost our AAA rating, sold us down the river to UN, what next Obama Marshall Law..
Welcome to the New World Order

Calm down.
You are going to revisit Somalia soon.
No NWO.
That is psychosis.
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Re: Communist Traitor in the White House

Unread postby Sixstrings » Sat 06 Aug 2011, 16:28:00

Timmac, I'm with you in spirit regarding being anti-globalism. NWO isn't a FEMA camp boogeyman but it is a loss of sovereignty. This whole fiat crisis, if it doesn't end in tears, must end in some kind of world governance. Cooperative default, currency baskets, more and more enmeshment of world finances and central banks and the IMF on and on and on..

Having said that, the president isn't a traitor unless you consider all rich Americans to be traitors. It's corps and the rich who have sold the country out.

And Obama is not a communist. What is communism anyhow, Timmac? When the rich are communal and band together to look out for themselves, rob the Treasury to fill their own pockets when they really don't earn their access to the Fed's discount window -- isn't that communism for the rich? Privatize the profits, but socialize all the losses and risks -- I don't know what you call that, oligarchy or fascism or what but it's not any more sustainable than communism.

(if you're flipping out, calm down Timmac.. downgrade has me on edge too, I'm talking about tar sands to get financial doom off my mind :lol: )
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Re: Communist Traitor in the White House

Unread postby Pops » Sat 06 Aug 2011, 17:13:05

Easy timm, Obama was still training at an al quieda camp in Africa when H W Bush signed the UN deal in '92

And the great FDA conspiracy is old news too, from your link
Fortunately for small-scale farmers, the final legislation limits the FDA’s control of direct-sales farms, farms with their own label, farms with sales less than $500,000, and farms that sell directly in state or within a 275-mile radius. Farms that fall within the exemptions are left to the regulation of states and localities, much in the same way they have been historically.


Oh and btw, new world order was a construction of HW too I think...
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Re: Communist Traitor in the White House

Unread postby Alan Cain » Sat 06 Aug 2011, 17:49:13

Ya know, I really irritate my conservative friends when I tell them that Obama is the best republican president we have ever had. Thing is, it is true. He is no commie, not a socialist, not anything but another successful politician who has politics as his primary interest, and everything else is secondary.

Consider getting a nice mint julep. Cools you off while peace fills your heart.

We do have plenty to fret about globally, but his communist leanings are a bit imaginary. I worry far more about his neocon leanings.
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Re: Communist Traitor in the White House

Unread postby americandream » Sat 06 Aug 2011, 17:54:21

timmac wrote:America is not ran by Americans anymore, Obama has crashed this country with trillions in debt, lost our AAA rating, sold us down the river to UN, what next Obama Marshall Law..
Welcome to the New World Order

Obama is an economic protectionist with a socio-liberal agenda. He most certainly is not a believer in, nor is he a member of the party that championed, the removal of all limits to capital's global movement (as in American manufacturing moving offshore), liberalising credit, reducing the tax code to a leaking sieve, removing worker protection, removing punitive measures aimed at capital flight such as reducing witholding rates on foreign dividends and all the other policies that are the hallmark of the "non-communist" party that has reduced America to a nation of shopping addicted debt beggars dependant on their next fix of Chinese junk down at the local mall.

This is what constitutes a "communist" in this addict's world. A world where he will find any excuse to avoid the protectionism of the social democrat opposition (not that they pose much of a danger as America is a nation of seriously addicted shoppers of low priced imports).

So addicted is he that anyone who disagrees with him is a traitor or "communist", even if the person is evidently bourgeoisie (of the liberal kind) and lives a very uncommunist life, but is an economic nationalist.
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Re: Communist Traitor in the White House

Unread postby Novus » Sat 06 Aug 2011, 18:09:09

Obama is a corporate Lap Dog pure and simple. He is 100% not a communist. Tax the poor to give to the rich. That is not Communism.
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Re: Communist Traitor in the White House

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Sat 06 Aug 2011, 18:25:56

Novus wrote:Obama is a corporate Lap Dog pure and simple. He is 100% not a communist. Tax the poor to give to the rich. That is not Communism.

Ech, you are mistaken.
Look on NK:
tax starve the poor and give feed the rich.

That is where socialism/communism leads:
High rank commies have food and others starve.
Communism is a sort of feudalism where there is a permanent system induced shortage of basic goods, regardless of ability to produce these.
Mob is starving or barely surviving and commies are getting fat.

So if a capitalist plutocrat is trying to impress woman, he will show a Lamborghini car, private jet, mansion and a luxury yacht.
On the other hand a Commie will show some scrap of pork (denied for mob) and a lipstick smuggled from rotten West.
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Re: Communist Traitor in the White House

Unread postby AgentR11 » Sat 06 Aug 2011, 18:36:01

Pops wrote:And the great FDA conspiracy is old news too, from your link


I worry about how easy it is for those in power to fly a flag that acts like rat bait to conspiracy junkies; they go rant high and low and get the less interested riled; then its exposed, and the riled just end up tired.

No powder left if something real comes along that is properly masked and finessed into place.
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Re: Communist Traitor in the White House

Unread postby eastbay » Sat 06 Aug 2011, 18:58:27

Novus wrote:Obama is a corporate Lap Dog pure and simple. He is 100% not a communist. Tax the poor to give to the rich. That is not Communism.


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Re: Communist Traitor in the White House

Unread postby timmac » Sat 06 Aug 2011, 19:07:42

Yea maybe I am being a little over the top today but this country has fallen into a financial debt that we will never get out of unless real change is made come 2012. [highly unlikely]

But it does seem like the upper/middle/lower class is being corralled in a communist type life style while the super rich are giving a different life style.

As to the NWO thing I do beleave we have been in this for sometime before Obama, and no its not Fema camps and such but a control of the masses and lost of many freedoms for Americans and other Western nations..
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Re: Communist Traitor in the White House

Unread postby AgentR11 » Sat 06 Aug 2011, 19:22:09

Seriously, you're going overboard. How are middle class people being corralled into a communist lifestyle? Do you even know what you have to put up with under a communist lifestyle as a middle class professional? In what kind of communist world can someone with no government connections walk into a grocery store and buy thick cut, decent steaks, and fresh caught whole seafood for $4-$6 / pound???? And as much as one might feel like dragging home for the freezer.

Yes, its true, there are hard times out there for some; many got sold up the river by a combined government and industry effort to get them to buy houses they had no business owning; heck, I even have relatives that got sold and smushed; they thought they were being so much smarter than me, fancy house, fancy car, and now they're bankrupted and leaching off pawn shops.

We're not oppressed. We got thumped upside the head a bit; and it'll take a decade or so to recover, but sheesh, lets not over react to non-issues please.
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Re: Communist Traitor in the White House

Unread postby timmac » Sat 06 Aug 2011, 19:30:01

AgentR11 wrote:Seriously, you're going overboard. How are middle class people being corralled into a communist lifestyle? Do you even know what you have to put up with under a communist lifestyle as a middle class professional? In what kind of communist world can someone with no government connections walk into a grocery store and buy thick cut, decent steaks, and fresh caught whole seafood for $4-$6 / pound???? And as much as one might feel like dragging home for the freezer.



Its called the baloney system, we are losing our freedoms 1 slice at a time, slowly and no one notices till all the baloney/freedoms are gone.
[ or the freedoms that count the most ]

It started about 20 years ago, started small but it has been growing, we lost a lot of slices just after 911, surly you can't dispute this..
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Re: Traitor in the White House

Unread postby timmac » Sat 06 Aug 2011, 19:34:21

To bring it down a notch I removed the Communist part from the title..

But the White House is still full of Traitors, a mix bag of them.. :shock:
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Re: Communist Traitor in the White House

Unread postby americandream » Sat 06 Aug 2011, 19:45:06

EnergyUnlimited wrote:
Novus wrote:Obama is a corporate Lap Dog pure and simple. He is 100% not a communist. Tax the poor to give to the rich. That is not Communism.

Ech, you are mistaken.
Look on NK:
tax starve the poor and give feed the rich.

That is where socialism/communism leads:
High rank commies have food and others starve.
Communism is a sort of feudalism where there is a permanent system induced shortage of basic goods, regardless of ability to produce these.
Mob is starving or barely surviving and commies are getting fat.

So if a capitalist plutocrat is trying to impress woman, he will show a Lamborghini car, private jet, mansion and a luxury yacht.
On the other hand a Commie will show some scrap of pork (denied for mob) and a lipstick smuggled from rotten West.


If you had bothered to read Marx, you would understand why attempting to configure a socialised economy in an incompletely globalised capitalism is wasted effort. For one thing, the potential for corruption is very high, as it is with capitalist parliamentarism for example (read Lenin on the paradox of parliamentarianism's rise and the failure of the commons).

A theory, in other words, that delineates the eventual failure of capitalism and precisly why it will fail as well as all the risks that lie in between in the:

1 Removal of all barriers to capital:
2 The return to neo-feudalism in worker conditions:
3 The continued betrayal by a false intelligensia quickly absorbed by the capitalist ranks in failed attempts at premature socialisation within nation states:
4 The eventual domination of all thought by the capitalist in a manner not dissimilar to the kings of olde (the divine rights of kings?)
5 The complete elimination of the state as the mode for mediating the affairs of and services within geographic regions;
6 The emergence of a truly global capitalist class, at once, sharing common values and yet, in a constant state of competiton leading to the emergence of brute capitalism and high speculation;
7 The eventual emergence of a global labour awareness from the ashes of utter destitution as each generation is repeatedly betrayed by an inflammable mix of theocratics, nationalists, social democrats, fascists, nazis and other assorted fronts for continued accumulation by the elite.

These are historic givens just as the French Revolution and the toppling of the French nobility accompanied the emergence of bourgeoisie social economy worldwide and what we are witnessing is the natural flow of time and society. To this call a nationalist, a communist in the midst of this process, especially from one of the supporters of the architects of the emerging globalism, points to how deep is the indoctrination. To then argue that NK is an example of the elitism inherent in a theory on historic social-economy (it is just a theory, not some crazy nutjob conspiracy on how to become a billionaire by formenting a revolution for economic equality) also confirms how complete is the ignorance.
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Re: Communist Traitor in the White House

Unread postby AgentR11 » Sat 06 Aug 2011, 19:57:18

timmac wrote:It started about 20 years ago, started small but it has been growing, we lost a lot of slices just after 911, surly you can't dispute this..


Not really sure on this one. It *seems* that way, but every time I run down the pipe on a suggested candidate, it lands squarely on a private property owner applying restrictions to public access to their private resource.

People bring up the TSA thing, but if you push it down the pipe, you come to the point of boarding a private airplane for money. Airlines couldn't manage the security thing while keeping their customers, so punted to the government. Government gets to be the offender, airline gets to say, "oh we don't approve... but.."; etc.

Or the various assertions of repression, that all boil down to Bob wanting to engage in interstate commerce, but not be subject to what the constitution most definitely says Bob should be subject to, ie, federal regulation of interstate commerce. I could understand the annoyance, if this was the Feds busting down my door for mowing a neighbors lawn for money; but its not. These are people uniformly engaging in interstate commerce, but thinking they are freedom fighters or something by refusing to play by the rules that the constitution says the feds are responsible for crafting.

I do see the Government is observing more, but how is that a loss of freedom? I don't give a flying ***** what they know or want to know; and as long as they are content that I couldn't care less, its all fine. So far, the Government has shown no sign of being interested in my non-interest, and I see no reason to suspect that will ever change.

So what freedom am I supposed to have lost?

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Re: Traitor in the White House

Unread postby AgentR11 » Sat 06 Aug 2011, 19:59:20

ps.. none of the above should be construed as me thinking that Obama is anything other than the moron he is.
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Re: Traitor in the White House

Unread postby americandream » Sat 06 Aug 2011, 19:59:58

New TV show..."Who wants to be a billionaire communist!!!"
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