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Imagine a US blackout in which the lights don’t come back on

Unread postby babystrangeloop » Tue 16 Aug 2011, 06:43:57

Imagine a US blackout in which the lights don’t come back on
By: James Jay Carafano / Special to The Examiner / August 15, 2011


Without warning, the lights went out. It was Aug. 15, 2003. A cascading power failure plunged the northeastern United States and Canada into a massive blackout.

For more than 55 million people, it was an object lesson in what life is like without electricity. Luckily, the lesson was short-lived. Most services were restored within 24 hours.

But what if the lights had not come on the next day?

What if it more than just the lights had gone out? What if every major component of electro-infrastructure, from GPS satellites in space to the Internet in cyberspace, had been fried? What would life be like?

William Graham, Ronald Reagan’s former chief science advisor, offers a chilling description of the consequences in the documentary film “33 Minutes.”

“Medical services wouldn’t be available because they need electric power. Telephones wouldn’t work. The traffic lights would stop working. Big traffic jams. Transportation would be shut down.

“Electronic fund transfers wouldn’t work, so you wouldn’t get your paycheck. You wouldn’t be able to use your credit card.

“Food stocks would run out very quickly. Everything we know about life today that makes it convenient and efficient would be shut down,” Graham said. “There would be a real challenge to keep our population even alive, let alone strong and viable.”

Unfortunately, this nightmare scenario is a real-world concern.

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Re: Imagine a US blackout in which the lights don’t come bac

Unread postby babystrangeloop » Tue 16 Aug 2011, 06:46:33

Snooki’s 2012 Predictions: Blackouts & Pandemonium!
Access Hollywood - NBC Universal, Inc / August 15, 2011


LOS ANGELES, Calif. --

“Jersey Shore” star Nicole “Snooki” Polizzi foresees a grim future when she looks ahead to 2012 – and it has nothing to do with a pickle shortage or the inability to tan.

“The economy is really scary because 2012 is coming,” the pint-sized reality star recently told the Wall Street Journal (yes, Snooki chatted with the Journal!).

“I feel like the first thing that’s going to happen… is a blackout,” she said of the coming new year. “And then everyone freaks out and the world goes crazy.”
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Re: Imagine a US blackout in which the lights don’t come bac

Unread postby Cloud9 » Tue 16 Aug 2011, 07:03:35

Solar flair or a properly placed nuke could do it. Should that happen, the major questions of life will be sorted out for millions in less than a year.
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Re: Imagine a US blackout in which the lights don’t come bac

Unread postby babystrangeloop » Tue 16 Aug 2011, 08:12:57

Cloud9 wrote:Solar flair [sic] or a properly placed nuke could do it. Should that happen, the major questions of life will be sorted out for millions in less than a year.


We do not need such events, simply count the rate of world-wide manned space trips over time. Then you will know which side of the bubble we are on.

So many things rely on electricity today, take chickens for example. Did you know that chickens die in thirty minutes when the power is lost?

Power cut leaves 117,000 chickens to suffocate in factory farm
The Local Europe GmbH / August 16, 2011


The chickens would only have survived around 30 minutes without ventilation.
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Re: Imagine a US blackout in which the lights don’t come bac

Unread postby timmac » Tue 16 Aug 2011, 15:00:17

Well if the power goes out and stays off than I am loading up my motorhome and heading to Pstarr house and camp out there, I will bring some beer and you cook us up some beer brats..

OK Mate.. [smilie=adios.gif]
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Re: Imagine a US blackout in which the lights don’t come bac

Unread postby Bill Hicks » Tue 16 Aug 2011, 20:43:22

babystrangeloop wrote:
Snooki’s 2012 Predictions: Blackouts & Pandemonium!
Access Hollywood - NBC Universal, Inc / August 15, 2011

LOS ANGELES, Calif. --
“Jersey Shore” star Nicole “Snooki” Polizzi foresees a grim future when she looks ahead to 2012 – and it has nothing to do with a pickle shortage or the inability to tan. ...

So I guess we're safe until at LEAST 2013. :mrgreen:
Check out The Downward Spiral (A Requiem for the American Dream):

http://billhicksisdead.blogspot.com/
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Re: Imagine a US blackout in which the lights don’t come bac

Unread postby babystrangeloop » Tue 16 Aug 2011, 22:13:35

Bill Hicks wrote:So I guess we're safe until at LEAST 2013. :mrgreen:

What kind of prediction is "everyone freaks out and the world goes crazy" anyway? It's more like an observation.
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Re: Imagine a US blackout in which the lights don’t come bac

Unread postby AgentR11 » Tue 16 Aug 2011, 22:24:03

We lost power for a week a while back and nothing interesting happened....
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Re: Imagine a US blackout in which the lights don’t come bac

Unread postby babystrangeloop » Tue 16 Aug 2011, 22:30:28

AgentR11 wrote:We lost power for a week a while back and nothing interesting happened....

Try harder next time.
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Re: Imagine a US blackout in which the lights don’t come bac

Unread postby AgentR11 » Tue 16 Aug 2011, 22:33:18

The point is that there is no reason to suspect that everyone will "go crazy" when the lights go out.

It will take a prolonged outage, and the distress will build very slowly.
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Re: Imagine a US blackout in which the lights don’t come bac

Unread postby babystrangeloop » Tue 16 Aug 2011, 22:37:20

AgentR11 wrote:The point is that there is no reason to suspect that everyone will "go crazy" when the lights go out.

It will take a prolonged outage, and the distress will build very slowly.

Unless it happens while everyone is in an elevator.
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Re: Imagine a US blackout in which the lights don’t come bac

Unread postby peeker01 » Tue 16 Aug 2011, 22:45:55

There are hundreds of thousands earning their living in the electricity business, not to mention the millions of stockholder in utilities, and the thousands of millionaires trading the utility stocks. Do you really think the country is going to go dark and STAY dark anytime soon, just to placate your silly doom fantasy? No, I don't think so. Less than 1% of this nation's power is generated with oil, so find a different crash scenario.
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Re: Imagine a US blackout in which the lights don’t come bac

Unread postby babystrangeloop » Tue 16 Aug 2011, 22:47:15

peeker01 wrote:Do you really think the country is going to go dark and STAY dark anytime soon, just to placate your silly doom fantasy?

What if I ask them nicely?
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Re: Imagine a US blackout in which the lights don’t come bac

Unread postby rangerone314 » Thu 18 Aug 2011, 19:43:38

An 1859 Carrington event could destroy a lot of electrical infrastructure, not to mention disrupt the credit system truckers use for fuel.

Life would start sucking real fast when people run out of milk, bread, and potable water.
An ideology is by definition not a search for TRUTH-but a search for PROOF that its point of view is right

Equals barter and negotiate-people with power just take

You cant defend freedom by eliminating it-unknown

Our elected reps should wear sponsor patches on their suits so we know who they represent-like Nascar-Roy
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Re: Imagine a US blackout in which the lights don’t come bac

Unread postby Lore » Thu 18 Aug 2011, 19:46:35

rangerone314 wrote:An 1859 Carrington event could destroy a lot of electrical infrastructure, not to mention disrupt the credit system truckers use for fuel.

Life would start sucking real fast when people run out of milk, bread, and potable water.


Not to mention toilet paper!
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Re: Imagine a US blackout in which the lights don’t come bac

Unread postby rangerone314 » Thu 18 Aug 2011, 19:50:37

Lore wrote:Not to mention toilet paper!

I'll manufacture poison-ivy-based toilet paper to sell to the rich.
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Re: Imagine a US blackout in which the lights don’t come bac

Unread postby tsakach » Fri 19 Aug 2011, 12:13:08

babystrangeloop wrote:Without warning, the lights went out. It was Aug. 15, 2003. A cascading power failure plunged the northeastern United States and Canada into a massive blackout.

For more than 55 million people, it was an object lesson in what life is like without electricity. Luckily, the lesson was short-lived. Most services were restored within 24 hours.

But what if the lights had not come on the next day?


I was in the Detroit airport on Aug 15 2003 when the power failure occurred. After they cleared out the airport I found myself looking around for food, water and shelter. The power outage lasted for three days in Detroit, where I was holed up in a small motel room witnessing the collapse of the infrastructure.

Many people were stranded in Detroit because all the gas stations were inoperative. Then, only a few hours after the power outage, the sewage treatment plant backed up and they were advising people not to use the water. Everything was shut down, stores would not sell food, refrigerated items started to spoil, cellular towers went offline and so on.

It was in many aspects a real eye opener for me, since I became aware of the fact that many fundamental components of the infrastructure are not designed to handle a power outage lasting more than a few hours. In addition, it is apparent that most people do not have on hand more than a few days worth of food supplies. One could sense that things can cascade into chaos quickly if basic needs for food and water are not met.
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Re: Imagine a US blackout in which the lights don’t come bac

Unread postby Alan Cain » Sun 21 Aug 2011, 16:14:49

pstarr wrote:
babystrangeloop wrote:So many things rely on electricity today, take chickens for example. Did you know that chickens die in thirty minutes when the power is lost?
I thought they ate corn? Where does the plug go? Do they have screens?


The power plugs in behind them.

Surely you knew that!!

The little ones have screens you can write on - the "chicken littles". The big ones are put into banks, or batteries, and they mass assemble little food pills.
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