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joe vs jose

Unread postby dsula » Mon 12 Sep 2011, 13:33:31

received by email... pretty funny
JOE vs. JOSE

You have two families: "Joe Legal" and "Jose Illegal". Both families have
two parents, two children, and live in California ..

Joe Legal works in construction, has a Social Security Number and makes
$25.00 per hour with taxes deducted.

Jose Illegal also works in construction, has NO Social Security Number,
and gets paid $15.00 cash "under the table".

Ready? Now pay attention....

Joe Legal: $25.00 per hour x 40 hours = $1000.00 per week, or $52,000.00
per year. Now take 30% away for state and federal tax; Joe Legal now has
$31,231.00.

Jose Illegal: $15.00 per hour x 40 hours = $600.00 per week, or $31,200.0
0 per year. Jose Illegal pays no taxes. Jose Illegal now has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for his
family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. Joe Legal now has
$24,031.00.

Jose Illegal has full medical and dental coverage through the state and
local clinics and emergency hospitals at a cost of $0.00 per year. Jose
Illegal still has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or
welfare. Joe Legal pays $500.00 per month for food, or $6,000.00 per year.
Joe Legal now has $18,031.00.

Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps, WIC
and welfare. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal pays rent of $1,200.00 per month, or $14,400.00 per year. Joe
Legal now has 9,631 ..00.

Jose Illegal receives a $500.00 per month Federal Rent Subsidy. Jose
Illegal pays out that $500.00 per month, or $6,000.00 per year. Jose
Illegal still has $ 31,200.00.

Joe Legal pays $200.00 per month, or $2,400.00 for car insurance. Some of
that is uninsured motorist insurance. Joe Legal now has $7,231.00.

Jose Illegal says, "We don't need no stinkin' insurance!" and still has
$31,200.00.

Joe Legal has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline,
etc..

Jose Illegal has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities,
gasoline, and what he sends out of the country every month..

Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after
work.

Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.

Joe Legal's and Jose Illegal's children both attend the same elementary
school. Joe Legal pays for his children's lunches, while Jose Illegal's
children get a government sponsored lunch. Jose Illegal's children have an
after school ESL program. Joe Legal's children go home.

Now, when they reach college age, Joe Legal's kids may not get into a
State School and may not qualify for scholarships, grants or other tuition
help, even though Joe has been paying for State Schools through his taxes,
while Jose Illegal's kids "go to the head of the class" because they are a
minority.

Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same police and fire services,
but Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay.
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Re: joe vs jose

Unread postby peeker01 » Mon 12 Sep 2011, 13:41:13

Ask any liberal. They think this situation is just fine. Diversity you know.
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Re: joe vs jose

Unread postby Livewire713 » Mon 12 Sep 2011, 13:59:47

If those rich conservatives and conservative backing businesses would stop hiring illegals and hire honest working union labor then we wouldn't have this problem.
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Re: joe vs jose

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Mon 12 Sep 2011, 14:01:22

Legal Joe is in a union. The GOP wants to destroy him and his family in a very personal way.
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Re: joe vs jose

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Mon 12 Sep 2011, 14:06:39

There are plenty of people who would like to drop off the grid and hide in plain sight to dodge child support payments and such. So why not just ditch their ID, pose as an illegal (no documents required !), and hop on that illegal alien gravy train of cradle-to-grave benefits? :lol:

I especially like that last line about police and fire protection - clearly we need to bust those unions in order to inconvenience the illegals.
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Re: joe vs jose

Unread postby dinopello » Mon 12 Sep 2011, 14:10:14

You know those 'trading places' shows ? Like swapping home rennovation projects or there was one where families swapped husbands ?

They should do a Joe/Jose swap where each gets to live like the other and we could settle which one has it better. Joe would have drink Tecate and Jose would switch to Coors.
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Re: joe vs jose

Unread postby peeker01 » Mon 12 Sep 2011, 14:12:42

The liberal media would never allow it.
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Re: joe vs jose

Unread postby Pops » Mon 12 Sep 2011, 14:14:12

I got to here:

dsula wrote:Jose Illegal pays no taxes.


Why doesn't Jose pay taxes?
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Re: joe vs jose

Unread postby peeker01 » Mon 12 Sep 2011, 14:19:37

I would assume it's because he has no social security number and is paid cash under the table,
and is the citizen of another country.
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Re: joe vs jose

Unread postby Pops » Mon 12 Sep 2011, 14:26:10

The reason he's paid under the table is so the employer can save money.

Enforce existing laws prohibiting "under the table" employment and you solve the "problem".
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Re: joe vs jose

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Mon 12 Sep 2011, 14:31:20

peeker01 wrote:I would assume it's because he has no social security number and is paid cash under the table,
and is the citizen of another country.

And how about the ones that have a fake social security number? They'll pay the taxes but never be able to get the benefits.
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Re: joe vs jose

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Mon 12 Sep 2011, 14:33:13

Pops wrote:The reason he's paid under the table is so the employer can save money.

Enforce existing laws prohibiting "under the table" employment and you solve the "problem".

The employer would do the same thing with citizens, unless maybe there was a union helping prevent it.
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Re: joe vs jose

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Mon 12 Sep 2011, 14:35:13

peeker01 wrote:The liberal media would never allow it.

It's a conspiracy man!

Honestly, I think the current political propaganda is designed for people whose attention spans are too short to memorize a conspiracy theory or even a complete sentence.
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Re: joe vs jose

Unread postby AgentR11 » Mon 12 Sep 2011, 14:36:46

dinopello wrote:Joe would have drink Tecate and Jose would switch to Coors.


Jose would be in tears of sympathy, if it weren't for horrible food he'd be stuck eating until he got back home.

Meanwhile, Joe would be building barricades and telling his new family that he's staying.

OTOH, if Jose' family is back in Mexico, Joe would still be building barricades because it'll be the first time he's gotten to watch football on a monday night in a very long time...

I kid... sorta.
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Re: joe vs jose

Unread postby peeker01 » Mon 12 Sep 2011, 14:51:05

Pops wrote:The reason he's paid under the table is so the employer can save money.

Enforce existing laws prohibiting "under the table" employment and you solve the "problem".


Indeed. Enforce the borders, and not only will you keep out illegals, but as an added bonus, you will
keep out terrorists too.
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Re: joe vs jose

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Mon 12 Sep 2011, 14:51:26

peeker01 wrote:Ask any liberal. They think this situation is just fine. Diversity you know.
For some reason I have mislaid my copy of Mein Kampf, otherwise I'd swap quotes with you until the cows come home.
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Re: joe vs jose

Unread postby peeker01 » Mon 12 Sep 2011, 14:53:39

Preston, I will assume you have nothing substantive to add to the conversation. Feel free to
check in again when you do.
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Re: joe vs jose

Unread postby dinopello » Mon 12 Sep 2011, 14:59:58

AgentR11 wrote:
dinopello wrote:Joe would have drink Tecate and Jose would switch to Coors.


Jose would be in tears of sympathy, if it weren't for horrible food he'd be stuck eating until he got back home.


You mean like:

"Dear Lord baby Jesus, we thank you so much for this bountiful harvest of Dominos, KFC, and the always delicious Taco Bell"

-Ricky Bobby
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Re: joe vs jose

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Mon 12 Sep 2011, 15:36:45

peeker01 wrote:Preston, I will assume you have nothing substantive to add to the conversation. Feel free to check in again when you do.

Why do you have a standard of political correctness that requires a serious debate of the merits of that email meant to frighten senile Aunt Edna ?
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Re: joe vs jose

Unread postby peeker01 » Mon 12 Sep 2011, 16:00:33

Preston, it's just that the Mein Kampf thing is wearing a little thin. Maybe you could work up
some new material..........or maybe even participate in the discussion. Just sayin.......
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