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Bombings, beheadings? Stats show a peaceful world

Unread postby Graeme » Mon 31 Oct 2011, 00:36:42

Bombings, beheadings? Stats show a peaceful world

In his new book, "The Better Angels of Our Nature: Why Violence Has Declined," Pinker makes the case that a smarter, more educated world is becoming more peaceful in several statistically significant ways. His findings are based on peer-reviewed studies published by other academics using examinations of graveyards, surveys and historical records:

- The number of people killed in battle - calculated per 100,000 population - has dropped by 1,000-fold over the centuries as civilizations evolved. Before there were organized countries, battles killed on average more than 500 out of every 100,000 people. In 19th century France, it was 70. In the 20th century with two world wars and a few genocides, it was 60. Now battlefield deaths are down to three-tenths of a person per 100,000.

- The rate of genocide deaths per world population was 1,400 times higher in 1942 than in 2008.

- There were fewer than 20 democracies in 1946. Now there are close to 100. Meanwhile, the number of authoritarian countries has dropped from a high of almost 90 in 1976 to about 25 now.

Pinker says one of the main reasons for the drop in violence is that we are smarter. IQ tests show that the average teenager is smarter with each generation. The tests are constantly adjusted to keep average at 100, and a teenager who now would score a 100 would have scored a 118 in 1950 and a 130 in 1910. So this year's average kid would have been a near-genius a century ago. And that increase in intelligence translates into a kinder, gentler world, Pinker says.

"As we get smarter, we try to think up better ways of getting everyone to turn their swords into plowshares at the same time," Pinker said in an interview. "Human life has become more precious than it used to be."

Pinker argued his case in a commentary this past week in the scientific journal Nature. He has plenty of charts and graphs to back up his claims, including evidence beyond wartime deaths - evidence that our everyday lives are also less violent:


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Re: Bombings, beheadings? Stats show a peaceful world

Unread postby AgentR11 » Mon 31 Oct 2011, 00:41:00

We're just better fed.
Yes we are, as we are,
And so shall we remain,
Until the end.
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Re: Bombings, beheadings? Stats show a peaceful world

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Mon 31 Oct 2011, 02:42:55

Graeme wrote:Bombings, beheadings? Stats show a peaceful world
a smarter, more educated world is becoming more peaceful in several statistically significant ways.
Depends who's making up the statistics:
U.N. Tally Excluded Most Afghan Civilian Deaths in Night Raids
A July United Nations report asserting that only 30 civilians died in targeted raids in Afghanistan during the first six months of 2011 reflected only a very small fraction of night raids in which civilians were killed

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There were fewer than 20 democracies in 1946. Now there are close to 100.
... and who gets to define "democracy".
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Re: Bombings, beheadings? Stats show a peaceful world

Unread postby Laromi » Mon 31 Oct 2011, 04:48:47

Graeme wrote:Bombings, beheadings? Stats show a peaceful world



Pinker argued his case in a commentary this past week in the scientific journal Nature. He has plenty of charts and graphs to back up his claims, including evidence beyond wartime deaths - evidence that our everyday lives are also less violent:


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Hmmm, ever pondered on how or why the flame thrower was invented?
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Re: Bombings, beheadings? Stats show a peaceful world

Unread postby ralfy » Mon 31 Oct 2011, 06:06:12

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Re: Bombings, beheadings? Stats show a peaceful world

Unread postby The Practician » Mon 31 Oct 2011, 15:46:46

Where one man sees the relentless march of progress and the continual improvement of mankind, I see only massive and unsustainable growth in the exploitation of finite energy resources. Stay tuned to find out just how smart and non-violent we all are when those resources go into terminal decline.
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Re: Bombings, beheadings? Stats show a peaceful world

Unread postby seahorse3 » Mon 31 Oct 2011, 18:01:29

I agree. We are just better fed. They just did a tv show recreating the old psychological experiment to see if people today are nicer than in the 60s when they would electrocute people as part of learning experiments. People today are just like they were in the 60s, all of them willing to zap someone for getting a wrong answer if they were told to zap. So, we are just better fed and entertained.
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Re: Bombings, beheadings? Stats show a peaceful world

Unread postby Oakley » Tue 01 Nov 2011, 00:36:10

Civilization is just a thin veneer. It can be maintained if there is enough to go around, but when there is dire scarcity we do have a tendency to squabble quite a bit more over who survives; our aggressive natures are fed by scarcity.

If you look at per-capita energy consumption, it has already peaked, so I suspect that as the struggle to survive becomes more difficult violence, both internally in nations and in wars, will show a marked increase. Wars, famine, and disease are primary tools of nature to keep the human population in balance with her ability to provide for us, and certainly things are far out of balance as we approach the end of the energy age.
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Re: Bombings, beheadings? Stats show a peaceful world

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Tue 01 Nov 2011, 01:27:48

seahorse3 wrote:People today are just like they were in the 60s, all of them willing to zap someone for getting a wrong answer if they were told to zap.

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Re: Bombings, beheadings? Stats show a peaceful world

Unread postby Pops » Tue 01 Nov 2011, 08:12:29

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Of course we're smarter and more peaceful, but it doesn't have anything to do with angels...

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