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Twist and Bail = QE3?

Unread postby babystrangeloop » Fri 04 Nov 2011, 07:41:10

Did QE3 start already? Have we been expecting articles to come out and say it with "QE3" headlines only to find we must put the pieces together ourselves?

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By James Dailey, Investment Outlook blogger / PennLive / October 28, 2011


... Over the past couple of months, the Fed has now thrown out a number of bread crumbs that a major policy move was in the offing. First, there was Operation Twist, which by itself was a curious announcement given Ben Bernanke's luke warm assessment of that kind of policy in the past. It seems logical to us that Operation Twist was a foundation laid for additional policy action.

Next up, Bill Gross of PIMCO fame began to comment about the potential for further asset buying by the Fed (i.e. QEIII) targeting mortgage backed securities. ... The "click" moment last week happened for us after I received an email forwarding a WSJ article chronicling a Fed governor's speech on the subject (thanks again Rich). A major intervention in the mortgage market would "accomplish" a number of vital goals as laid out by the Fed and also address the political reality faced by incumbent politicians:

... Operation Twist was performed to drive long term rates down in order to help facilitate mortgage refinancing and make any refinancing even more potent as far as freeing up cash. ... The benefits from lower rates has been muted due to the lack of a transmission mechanism - namely that many cannot refinance. A major mortgage centered program could legitimately defrost some of the credit system, which could go a long way in putting a charge into monetary velocity. ...

Mortgage rates have, perhaps, responded to Operation Twist:
Fixed mortgage rates near historic lows
By Associated Press / November 4, 2011


WASHINGTON — The average rate on the 30-year fixed mortgage fell to 4 percent this week, nearly matching the all-time low hit just one month ago.

Freddie Mac said Thursday the rate on the 30-year loan dropped from 4.10 percent last week. Four weeks ago, it dropped to 3.94 percent — the lowest rate ever, according to the National Bureau of Economic Research.

Are the mortgage backed securities (MBS) purchases underway too now?
US Fed bought MBS to cover canceled deals with MF
Reuters / November 3, 2011


The U.S. Federal Reserve bought $950 million in mortgage-backed securities from other firms to replaced canceled transactions with bankrupt futures broker MF Global , the New York Fed said on Thursday.

The replacement purchases were part of $5.5 billion in net buying of mortgage-backed securities in the week ended Nov. 2. ...

NY Fed: Buys $6.45B Agency MBS; Cancels Trades With MF Global
Market News International / November 3, 2011


The New York Federal Reserve Thursday said it bought $6.55 billion agency mortgage-backed securities this week under the program the Open Market Committee announced September 21.

The largest purchases this week were in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac 30-year "to-be-announced" securities with 4% coupons for December delivery. Those buys totalled $3.15 billion.

The next largest purchases consisted of $1.6 billion Fannie Maes and Freddie Macs with 3.5% percent coupons for January delivery. ...
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Re: Twist and Bail = QE3?

Unread postby babystrangeloop » Fri 11 Nov 2011, 09:12:21

NY FED: Buys $5.5B Agy MBS; To Buy $28B In Next Month
Market news International / November 10, 2011


NEW YORK (MNI) - The New York Federal Reserve bought $5.5 billion agency mortgage-backed securities in the week-ended November 9 under the program the Federal Open Market Committee announced September 21.

The largest purchases this week were in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac 30-year "to-be-announced" securities with 4% coupons for December delivery. Those buys totalled $3.05 billion.

The next largest purchases consisted of $1.55 billion Fannie Maes and Freddie Macs with 3.5% percent coupons for January delivery.

The NY Fed also said Thursday it expects to buy $28 billion agency MBS in the next 30-day period from November 14 to December 12. ...

Here comes QE3.

$5.5 billion here, $28 billion there and you're taking some serious bailing out.

So how long before the worldwide inflation starts to go back up? How long before $4 gas? Six months?
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Re: Twist and Bail = QE3?

Unread postby ritter » Fri 11 Nov 2011, 12:50:57

babystrangeloop wrote: How long before $4 gas? Six months?


Already at $3.90ish in my neck of the woods. Shouldn't take much to bump us over $4.
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Re: Twist and Bail = QE3?

Unread postby babystrangeloop » Fri 11 Nov 2011, 14:20:25

Found another one about this:
SocGen predicts MBS-focused QE3 in January
Jacob Gaffney / HousingWire / November 10, 2011


French investment bank Société Générale believes a third round of quantitative easing from the Federal Reserve will be announced in January. The buying, they expect, will begin soon after in March. ...

... They expect around eight months of MBS buying from the Fed, at around $75 billion per month, with a pre-commitment to about eight months’ worth of buying. This would increase the Fed’s securities portfolio from $2.65 trillion currently to $3.25 trillion by the end of 2012. ...

So is the NY Fed 28 billion in November 14 - December 12 really QE3-Lite?

Do you think the US will have $5 gas by the time that hits them?
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