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THE American Congress Thread pt 2 (merged)

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Re: THE American Congress Thread pt 2 (merged)

Postby Cog » Sun 11 Nov 2018, 19:29:02

Our extremist won the presidency.
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Re: THE American Congress Thread pt 2 (merged)

Postby vtsnowedin » Sun 11 Nov 2018, 19:42:06

Well I expect to vote for the President of the USA not the president of the seventh grade class.
It sure would be nice to have realistic choices on both sides in 2020 to choose from.
Not going to hold my breath though, considering the last decades events.
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Re: THE American Congress Thread pt 2 (merged)

Postby Cog » Sun 11 Nov 2018, 20:15:06

Wouldn't it be great if your choices in 2020 were Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump again?
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Re: THE American Congress Thread pt 2 (merged)

Postby KaiserJeep » Mon 12 Nov 2018, 01:13:22

I have never actually had the pleasure of voting for anybody that inspired admiration in me. Not once in over 46 years at the polls. Much easier to find somebody to vote against.
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Re: THE American Congress Thread pt 2 (merged)

Postby careinke » Mon 12 Nov 2018, 01:34:02

Cog wrote:Wouldn't it be great if your choices in 2020 were Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump again?


If that were to happen, I might actually vote for Trump this time. :) Last time I did not vote for a president as I did not feel ANY of the candidates were qualified.

I have to admit, So far, Trump has had some pretty good results for America. Better trade deals, better unemployment for all races, better economy, rising wages, no more mandatory health care, tax cuts, and best of all breaking the MSM from monopolizing the conversation.
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Re: THE American Congress Thread pt 2 (merged)

Postby vtsnowedin » Mon 12 Nov 2018, 13:19:59

Cog wrote:Wouldn't it be great if your choices in 2020 were Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump again?
I think that would be a disaster. Out of three hundred thirty odd million Americans surly there are two better choices then these two criminal Bozos.
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Re: THE American Congress Thread pt 2 (merged)

Postby Cog » Mon 12 Nov 2018, 15:04:51

Trump is a criminal?

Is there a criminal indictment in play that has escaped my attention?
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Re: THE American Congress Thread pt 2 (merged)

Postby Newfie » Mon 12 Nov 2018, 15:09:50

vtsnowedin wrote:
Cog wrote:Wouldn't it be great if your choices in 2020 were Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump again?
I think that would be a disaster. Out of three hundred thirty odd million Americans surly there are two better choices then these two criminal Bozos.


Frankly I think it’s likely.
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Re: THE American Congress Thread pt 2 (merged)

Postby Tanada » Mon 12 Nov 2018, 15:55:08

Newfie wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote:
Cog wrote:Wouldn't it be great if your choices in 2020 were Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump again?
I think that would be a disaster. Out of three hundred thirty odd million Americans surly there are two better choices then these two criminal Bozos.


Frankly I think it’s likely.


As do I. HRC knows where too many political bodies are buried to be peacefully shoved aside for new blood. With his record so far DJT is the clear choice for the R's to run again, especially if he is back up against the candidate he already beat.
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Re: THE American Congress Thread pt 2 (merged)

Postby vtsnowedin » Mon 12 Nov 2018, 16:03:31

Cog wrote:Trump is a criminal?

Is there a criminal indictment in play that has escaped my attention?
Not all criminals have been indicted... Yet!
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Re: THE American Congress Thread pt 2 (merged)

Postby Cog » Mon 12 Nov 2018, 16:14:28

vtsnowedin wrote:
Cog wrote:Trump is a criminal?

Is there a criminal indictment in play that has escaped my attention?
Not all criminals have been indicted... Yet!


You should really stop watching CNN. It will poison your mind.
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Re: THE American Congress Thread pt 2 (merged)

Postby vtsnowedin » Mon 12 Nov 2018, 18:30:17

Cog wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote:
Cog wrote:Trump is a criminal?

Is there a criminal indictment in play that has escaped my attention?
Not all criminals have been indicted... Yet!


You should really stop watching CNN. It will poison your mind.
So you think someone, even with a few million head start, can become a billionaire in the New York real-estate market without committing crimes by the dozen.
I have a bridge to sell you cheap.
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Re: THE American Congress Thread pt 2 (merged)

Postby Cog » Mon 12 Nov 2018, 20:59:31

Do those crimes he allegedly committed before becoming president have any bearing on the job he is doing now? Not to me. Trump was, for all intents and purposes, back in the early life, a gun-grabbing Democrat loving liberal. I do not hold that against him. Ronald Reagan was a Democrat once too.

Trump has never held an elected office before now. I do not give Hillary that same break because most of her crimes revolve around either herself as a politician or being a co-conspirator with Bill Clinton who was one.
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Re: THE American Congress Thread pt 2 (merged)

Postby vtsnowedin » Mon 12 Nov 2018, 21:29:35

The fact that you can find no fault in the man or take issue with anything he has done or is trying to do speaks poorly to your own judgement.
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Re: THE American Congress Thread pt 2 (merged)

Postby Tanada » Mon 12 Nov 2018, 21:43:37

Cog wrote:Do those crimes he allegedly committed before becoming president have any bearing on the job he is doing now? Not to me. Trump was, for all intents and purposes, back in the early life, a gun-grabbing Democrat loving liberal. I do not hold that against him. Ronald Reagan was a Democrat once too.

Trump has never held an elected office before now. I do not give Hillary that same break because most of her crimes revolve around either herself as a politician or being a co-conspirator with Bill Clinton who was one.



No need, she was the elected Senator of New York state and held the office until she resign to take a cabinet post as Secretary of State a little over four years.
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Re: THE American Congress Thread pt 2 (merged)

Postby Plantagenet » Mon 12 Nov 2018, 23:47:57

Congrats to the Ds for taking over Congress. The blue wave has arrived.

However, these new Ds are going to be marked as liars from their very first vote. Many of them pledged not to support Pelosi for speaker of the House, but Pelosi is about to be elected Speaker by unanimous acclamation.

The Ds are going to elect the same team of elderly, senile leaders they had 8 years ago. Some things never change.

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Re: THE American Congress Thread pt 2 (merged)

Postby vtsnowedin » Tue 13 Nov 2018, 00:59:44

Plantagenet wrote:......
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The Ds are going to elect the same team of elderly, senile leaders they had 8 years ago. Some things never change.

Cheers!
It appears you are correct in that and it will be a big mistake that will cost them dearly in 2020.
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Re: THE American Congress Thread pt 2 (merged)

Postby KaiserJeep » Tue 13 Nov 2018, 05:09:38

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Re: THE American Congress Thread pt 2 (merged)

Postby lpetrich » Thu 15 Nov 2018, 08:12:02

Cog wrote:Trump is a criminal?

Is there a criminal indictment in play that has escaped my attention?

If he is not a criminal, then Hillary Clinton is not a criminal either.

Cog wrote:I'm trying to wrap my brain around what excess nationalism means and how it could be a bad thing. Perhaps you could expand on that KJ.

Excess nationalism? It can and does happen. How many examples should I list? Hint: the biggest one that I know of is covered by Godwin's law.

Cog wrote:Much of what you see with Trump is pure trolling.

Be careful. Two can play that game.
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Re: THE American Congress Thread pt 2 (merged)

Postby lpetrich » Thu 15 Nov 2018, 08:23:40

Nikki Haley Tells Conservative Teens: Stop Trying to ‘Own the Libs’ Online - The Daily Beast
“I know that it’s fun and that it can feel good, but step back and think about what you’re accomplishing when you do this—are you persuading anyone? Who are you persuading?” Haley asked. “We’ve all been guilty of it at some point or another, but this kind of speech isn’t leadership—it’s the exact opposite.”

Does that make her a RINO?
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