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Australian Dollar Down Late As China Lowers Growth Target

Unread postby babystrangeloop » Mon 05 Mar 2012, 07:53:35

Australian Dollar Down Late As China Lowers Growth Target
WSJ / March 5, 2012


The Australian dollar was lower Monday after China set a lower economic growth target for this year and traders braced for a deluge of data and central bank meetings.

China Premier Wen Jiabao said in a speech the government is aiming for economic growth of 7.5% this year, after targeting an 8% expansion for each of the last seven years, in a widely expected move that indicates an willingness to reconcile with slower growth in exchange for more balanced and sustainable development. ...

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Re: Australian Dollar Down Late As China Lowers Growth Targe

Unread postby Shaved Monkey » Mon 05 Mar 2012, 09:42:22

not for a while yet
China is the biggest customer for many mining companies and slowing growth may mean less demand for Australian commodities.

Still, economists at Capital Economics said: “with a leadership transition approaching growth probably wouldn’t be allowed to slow so far.”

They also noted that last year, Chinese growth came in a 9.2 per cent, exceeding the official 8 per cent target.

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Re: Australian Dollar Down Late As China Lowers Growth Targe

Unread postby babystrangeloop » Mon 05 Mar 2012, 14:37:18

May Australians be Safe and Well and Happy!
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Re: Australian Dollar Down Late As China Lowers Growth Targe

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Mon 05 Mar 2012, 16:04:49

Australians going over a cliff while Australia sails along smoothly for a fair while yet. I suspect I will be pushing up acacias before then.
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Re: Australian Dollar Down Late As China Lowers Growth Targe

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Mon 05 Mar 2012, 17:19:10

Australia and China are a perfect match for one another for this century.
Resources and consumption.

Australia is in a very peculiar position with regards to debt. Government fiscal responsibility has been fairly tight under both regimes, but at the expense of huge private debt. People have been talking about our housing bubble popping since it really began around the turn of the century, propped up by government sponsored consumer debt contracts (first home buyers grants). With the expectation that as these grants were withdrawn we would see an across the board price collapse leading to an American style consumer debt situation. This hasn't happened and is not likely while we add another 400,000 to our population through immigration and another 120,000 through births.

If/ when the housing bubble pops here, consumers will be left holding the bag. over 80% of this debt is held by only 4 banks (the big 4), each of which boasts growing profits throughout the financial crisis. This profit is a reflection of the triple equity held by the banks (each mortgage holder paying approximately 3 times the value of their loans in capital and interest) and the opportunities for these banks holding massive $AUD reserves in a market where gold in particular cannot be pulled out of the ground fast enough.

The current Chinese administration is coming up for re-assignment, they are not in a position to build more debt based infrastructure projects. At this stage in the Chinese political cycle it's about making nice, grand, self congratulatory speeches and trying to keep things fairly stable for those about to replace you. Only when the next administration comes in between December this year and March 2013 will we get any real idea where China is going to head.

Meanwhile we can expect China to keep a tight fiscal position, focused on internal market expansion and development. It won't be the metals boom we have had over the last 4 years, a lull rather than a crash.

(I suspect the Chinese electoral cycle is also influencing other players timing in the ME conflict, particularly Israel/ Iran.)
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Re: Australian Dollar Down Late As China Lowers Growth Targe

Unread postby babystrangeloop » Mon 05 Mar 2012, 18:04:47

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Re: Australian Dollar Down Late As China Lowers Growth Targe

Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Mon 05 Mar 2012, 18:47:08

I KNEW there would be talk (or at least hints) of doom, with China forecasting a whole half percent reduction in growth.

Let's see -- recently, folks were talking about a near term hard crash in China. THAT would surely be bad for the global economy. But wait - China reacts, and slows down credit growth and brings inflation (to some extent) under control.

So somewhat slower but very respectable growth, for some time to come.

And yet, it's still talks of banks and lulls and crashes.

How much net growth of modest or reasonable amounts?; how much corporate profits and paychecks to people who are buying IPADs et al with both hands?; how much evidence does it take that society will likely muddle along for another decade or three or seven, (beyond which -- our offspring will have to figure things out) before the doomers quit crying wolf?

I am happy to see, BTW, a balanced discussion on this forum that acknowledges that any crash seems likely to be gradual. As a moderate -- the vast bulk of the evidence seems to support that (barring outlier events like Iranian instigated nuclear middle-eastern armageddon, of course... that might shake up the BAU crowd just a bit).
Given the track record of the perma-doomer blogs, I wouldn't bet a fast crash doomer's money on their predictions.
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Re: Australian Dollar Down Late As China Lowers Growth Targe

Unread postby kublikhan » Mon 05 Mar 2012, 18:58:28

I'm not on the whole zombie doom thing. But so far Australia has been flying high while the rest of the developed world was in the doldrums. Seems like Australia might be dragged down into recession as well in the not too distant future.

This article will deal with how the Australian economy will be dealt three successive blows in the coming year.

Commodity Exports
Since residential construction [in China] is a large consumer of many building materials/commodities, these will see reduced demand as well. This trend is already ongoing, in that residential prices have already started falling in China months ago, and are now falling ever faster. There are already statistics showing reduced steel demand and production. This is very relevant for Australia, because China represents 23.7% of Australia's export. Also, just five commodities, iron ore, coal, gold, copper and aluminum, represent 45.6% of Australia's exports. Hence, any fall in price or volume in these commodities, especially in iron ore and coal, is sure to have a deep impact on Australia's economy. The reduced demand from China for very specific commodities, due to decreased activity in very specific sectors (auto production, residential construction, shipbuilding) is one of the three blows I am predicting here.

Investment in Mining
Fixed capital expenditures by the mining industry come to about 10.5% of Australia's GDP. This is a very large number, especially since it's just one industry and investments can change rapidly. Indeed, if prices and volumes for iron ore are expected to fall, and given many of these investments are made toward increasing capacity, we can clearly expect a large plunge in these numbers. To see how far the mining investment could fall, one just needs to look back a few years. Back in 2006, the fixed capital expenditures of the mining industry were one-third what they are today. That could easily be the future, but such a future would imply a -6% hit to GDP all by itself.

Real Estate
There has been a RE bubble of epic proportions in Australia, but I still think that mining, through its several impacts (exports, investment, ongoing activity) can have a larger impact. Still, clearly real estate is also important. Construction represents 7.6% of Australia's GDP and more importantly, 9.1% of employment. And as we've seen from the U.S. bubble, a bust in real estate can impact many other activities beyond construction, namely finance. The bubble in Australia's real estate is obvious. The following two charts showing how prices moved relative to rends and real prices show it beyond any doubt: [see link below]

As with China, and previously with the U.S., we can see that prices have already started their descent. These prices are like a large tanker, once they start moving in one direction they're hard to stop. Plus, when prices start falling, activity is sure to follow. This is the third large blow that Australia's economy will suffer.

The three blows I mention, taken together, will represent a significant hit to Australia's economy and might even make it one of the main stories of 2012 and 2013.
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Re: Australian Dollar Down Late As China Lowers Growth Targe

Unread postby kublikhan » Mon 05 Mar 2012, 19:01:22

Australia has a very vulnerable economy where upcoming bad news has not been "priced in" at all. The country suffers from an epic real estate bubble that greatly exceeds those of US, Ireland, and Spain. The average Australian consumer is completely tapped out. Take out a "consumer credit" punchbowl and reduce the Chinese voracious appetite for iron ore and coal, and the Australian economy will collapse like a house of cards.

Australia today suffers from a classic case of "Dutch Disease." Its reliance on natural resource exports for its GDP growth stunts the rest of the economic development, especially manufacturing. Australian manufacturing has been declining in relative and absolute terms at a faster rate than it is in the USA and Europe. The only export growing sector is energy and mineral resources. All other sectors are either flat or falling. Until several years ago, Australia had thriving tourist and wine industries. The appreciated Australian dollar put a severe dent in their growth. Even Australians themselves ditched their domestic wine favorites for cheaper European and South American brands

Looking at the data above, one can see that the Australian GDP is very dependent on two commodities, coal and metal ore, for its economic growth, with most of it going to China. Should the Chinese economy slow down, there will be few palatable options left. Devaluing the currency may not work because Australia has little manufacturing left to pick up the slack. Lowering rates may not be enough to encourage Australian consumers to spend as the falling real estate prices will force deleveraging. Also, the falling exports would create an immediate current account deficit leading to capital flight, currency collapse, and likely inflation. The Reserve Bank of Australia will not have an option of monetary easing at all.

The fact that the Australian real estate bubble is probably 30 years old is missed by many observers who plot data from the year 2000. To get a proper scale of the problem, one would have to go back all the way to Japan in late 80s when the land surrounding the Emperor's palace was valued higher than the land in the state of California. Australian prices matched some of the other country's bubbles until 2008. But while the real estate process elsewhere has been deflating, the Australian prices marched higher after a brief respite:
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This is just the beginning of the problem though. Australia's 4.25% short-term rate vs. the near 0% in the US and 1% in Europe drastically increases debt-servicing costs (in Australia and Europe most of the mortgages are adjustable rate).

Banks' Achilles' Heel
To its credit, Moody's sounded a warning last February when it put the "big four" on a downgrade watch because of their reliance on wholesale funding. The profitability of Australian banks is also eroding due to an inverted yield curve. The banks are forced to pay a high yield on short-term deposits but unable to lend long-term at a much higher rate. It must be disconcerting to see that the shape of the curve is somewhat similar to the US curve in 2006, just at the start of the housing bust.

This problem clearly shows up in poor Net Interest Margins (NIM) which is a difference between the cost of funding and yield on assets. Australian banks have a difficult time making money from prime mortgages, which should push them into riskier loans, just like US banks did in 2006. The Australian government is trying to extend the party by urging RBA to mimic Bernanke and introduce its own QE. However, these purchases are much riskier than American QE where the majority of bad loans have already defaulted.

Australian banks seem safe today sporting low default rates, high ratings from credit agencies, and strong capital adequacy ratios. They will remain safe as long as the Australian economy keeps expanding and real estate prices remain stable. However, once the music stops, I expect a "perfect storm": loan defaults will spike, funding will disappear, but interest rates will still stay high.

Epilogue
The Australian economy seems to be doing well today: the external debt is small, the unemployment is low, and the currency is strong. Yet, in many ways, it's very similar to the US economy in 2007 where much of the economic "wealth" was created by real estate boom and over-leveraged banks. Australia is likely to face its own "Great Recession" in the upcoming years, perhaps when commodity exports slow down. In many ways, this recession may be worse than the American one of 2008, as Australia neither enjoys the benefit of "reserve currency" that would allow it to easily "print" money nor a strong manufacturing base that would benefit from a currency devaluation.
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Re: Australian Dollar Down Late As China Lowers Growth Targe

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Mon 05 Mar 2012, 19:11:29

Perhaps this perhaps that, but it's not going to happen any time soon.
Australia still has only 21 or 22 million people, probably by far the highest resource/ population ratio in the world at scales which matter.
None of this politicking is going to change that. Peak oil globally is the big issue for China and Australia, same as everywhere else.
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Re: Australian Dollar Down Late As China Lowers Growth Targe

Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Mon 05 Mar 2012, 19:13:07

No doubt -- if China sneezes, the whole world will catch cold. And economies like Australia, where they provide a LOT of the raw material China consumes may well be hospitalized.

This could take quite a few years to materialize though. Thus far, China's growth seems mighty persistent, despite all the fears.
Given the track record of the perma-doomer blogs, I wouldn't bet a fast crash doomer's money on their predictions.
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Re: Australian Dollar Down Late As China Lowers Growth Targe

Unread postby babystrangeloop » Mon 05 Mar 2012, 20:50:00

China is just taking a little break. They'll go back to growing so much your eyes pop out in a short while.
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