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Government Motors Taxpayer Loss Hits New Record

Unread postby mattduke » Tue 03 Jul 2012, 21:06:40

General Motors (GM) shares fell to a fresh 2012 closing low of 19.57 on Monday. The stock hit 19 in mid-December, the lowest since the auto giant came public at $33 in November 2010 following its June 2009 bankruptcy.

Normally you might say, tough luck investors. But this is Government Motors. The Treasury still owns 26.5% of GM, or 500 million shares. Taxpayers are still out $26.4 billion in direct aid. Shares would have to hit $53 for the government to break even.

Those shares were worth about $9.8 billion as of Monday. That would leave taxpayers with a loss of $16.6 billion.

But that's not the full tally. Obama let GM keep $45 billion in past losses to offset future profits. Those are usually wiped out or slashed, along with debts, in bankruptcy. But the administration essentially gifted $45 billion in write-offs (book value $18 billion) to GM. So when GM earned a $7.6 billion profit in 2011 (more on that below), it paid no taxes.

Include that $18 billion gift, and taxpayers' true loss climbs to nearly $35 billion.

http://news.investors.com/article/61684 ... s-fall.htm
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Re: Government Motors Taxpayer Loss Hits New Record

Unread postby SolarDave » Thu 05 Jul 2012, 09:51:30

All of you who howled at the Solyndra loss - let's hear it for GM!

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Re: Government Motors Taxpayer Loss Hits New Record

Unread postby Timo » Thu 05 Jul 2012, 10:16:59

As a taxpayer, i'm a citizen of this nation only for myself! My taxes shouldn't be used for anyone else's benefit! What's all this national unity, United We Stand crap i keep hearing about?!?! As a law abiding citizen, i clouldn't give a crap about the intelligence or success of my fellow citizens. That sentiment is soooo WWII. Shared responsibility for national prosperity and well-being is COMMUNISM!!! :twisted:
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Re: Government Motors Taxpayer Loss Hits New Record

Unread postby dinopello » Thu 05 Jul 2012, 11:38:52

People with equity investments should realize that there is no loss (or gain) until you actually sell. That's why I like dividend paying stocks - it's getting paid to wait.
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Re: Government Motors Taxpayer Loss Hits New Record

Unread postby Plantagenet » Fri 06 Jul 2012, 16:43:00

GM sued for "cooking the books"

GM sued for "channel-stuffing"

If true, this would constitute financial fraud on a huge scale at GM. GM is accused of reporting phony sales numbers to cheat investors, which of course include all US taxpayers.

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