[mattduke]

Brandon Raub is arrested without charges and now indefinitely detained against his will for his online political speech. His favorite book is Mises Theory of Money and Credit (mine too!). After his reeducation he'll swear building 7 collapsed due to fire and 1+1=3.

http://news.google.com/news/story?hl=en ... CC8QqgIwAA

[careinke]

Brandon Raub is arrested without charges and now indefinitely detained against his will for his online political speech. His favorite book is Mises Theory of Money and Credit (mine too!). After his reeducation he'll swear building 7 collapsed due to fire and 1+1=3.

http://news.google.com/news/story?hl=en ... CC8QqgIwAA

Wow.

[rangerone314]

Didn't the US used to make fun of the Soviet Union for locking up political dissidents on mental illness grounds.

I guess this is an example of Hegelian dialectics: the US example of freedom and free-market capitalism was thesis, the USSR with authoritarianism and communism was antithesis, and now we have synthesis with the US and Russia both exhibiting authoritarianism and crony capitalism.

[seenmostofit]

Brandon Raub is arrested without charges and now indefinitely detained against his will for his online political speech.

Saying it was political speech doesn't make it so, as being dragged in for a psyche evaluation is pretty normal for those who...need it. And apparently local mental health officials thought just that.

[dissident]

Brandon Raub is arrested without charges and now indefinitely detained against his will for his online political speech.

Saying it was political speech doesn't make it so, as being dragged in for a psyche evaluation is pretty normal for those who...need it. And apparently local mental health officials thought just that.

On this basis, many more people need to be evaluated. So there is extreme selectivity in this case.

[vision-master]

Brandon Raub is arrested without charges and now indefinitely detained against his will for his online political speech.

Saying it was political speech doesn't make it so, as being dragged in for a psyche evaluation is pretty normal for those who...need it. And apparently local mental health officials thought just that.

Shorty, have you been evaluated yet?

[Pops]

Raub's supporters characterized the detention as an arrest, complaining he was handcuffed and whisked away in a police cruiser without being served a warrant or read his rights. But authorities say it wasn't an arrest because Raub doesn't face criminal charges.

Yeah, wow.

[vision-master]

Sounds like Detox........ lsol

an then they want you to PAY for yer stay that was against your will in a lock down facility with NO criminal charges.... They can hold you up to 72 hrs this way!

[seenmostofit]

On this basis, many more people need to be evaluated. So there is extreme selectivity in this case.

Many people probably do need evaluated, but that costs money and strains local budgets, so I imagine some level of prioritization takes place. This guy was high enough of a priority to get tagged. I recommend not advertising on the internet if you suffer from certain kinds of "issues".

[SILENTTODD]

Hey, didn't they use to do this stuff in the old Soviet Union? If you were a dissident, you evaluated as clinically crazy.

[SeaGypsy]

http://www.facebook.com/groups/188319494633640/

Raub's support group on facebook, currently over 7000 members and growing fast. A lot of vets feel the same way he does, perhaps they are not so busy yakking about it on facebook; a known agency of the agencies.

[dinopello]

Some screen dumps from his FB page.

He posted that the revolution would come to him and that soon men would come to pick him us and published his address. Seems that he was looking to get picked up.

I doubt there will be a revolution, but hopefully this will start a conversation.

[mattduke]

And now they Shanghai him 3 hours away from his family and attorneys.

http://www.examiner.com/article/update- ... -detention

[rangerone314]

Sometimes I think we should form a shadow government, democratically elected and with no money allowed in the elections, and form a separate police force from ex-military personnel, and have the people's police go out and arrest police or agents who conduct unlawful detentions and violence, and break people out of jail who have been unconstitutionally arrested.

[Ferretlover]

Based on what is being reported, this is troubling.
"They" just keep hacking away at American civil rights, don't they? This makes me think of all those who think "the government is going to save them..."

[SeaGypsy]

Ridiculous when any 8 year old can tell building 7 didn't come down from fire and therefore NIST report is propagandist garbage. Facebook having kindly close Raub's account, we can't tell how many 'friends' he had on there. Looks to me like an attempt to nip a fire in the bud. Youth these days are into viral information spread. However I think this attempt is pretty futile given that most young folk know NIST is crap already.

[seenmostofit]

http://www.facebook.com/groups/188319494633640/

Raub's support group on facebook, currently over 7000 members and growing fast. A lot of vets feel the same way he does, perhaps they are not so busy yakking about it on facebook; a known agency of the agencies.

If he has 7000 friend members, and they feel the same way he does, and AREN'T being hustled off for psychiatric evaluation, then the possible correlation between this guys "issues" and the need to watch him for his own sake, or the sake of others, is an honest worry about him. If it weren't, the rounding up of the 7000 would be just as easy as rounding up the original actor, and would be happening as we speak. Any signs of that? Or good conspiracy theories on why it isn't happening?

[SeaGypsy]

Sure, delusions of grandeur are a common sign of potentially dangerous psychosis. On top of all your wonderful countries mass murders lately, perhaps the authoritahs may er on the side of caution for a while...

[mattduke]

They let him go.

http://www.businessinsider.com/republic ... mpa-2012-8

[seenmostofit]

Sure, delusions of grandeur are a common sign of potentially dangerous psychosis.

Really? Hadn't heard that one before. Matter of fact, I hadn't even seen the words which were supposedly political speech which got this guy into trouble in the first place. Is that because it then becomes obvious it wasn't just political speech, or is there a conspiracy related to hiding whatever he said, because none of us have ever heard it before and we would all go bananas if we did?

On top of all your wonderful countries mass murders lately, perhaps the authoritahs may er on the side of caution for a while...

It isn't like we are the only country with random nut bags.



And let me guess, Martin Bryant was just a little off his meds one fine afternoon, and what followed was perfectly normal Aussie behavior?