[Sixstrings]

Clinton said Thursday that Washington had nothing to do with the crudely made film posted on the Internet, which she called "disgusting and reprehensible."

mbassador Stevens was killed Tuesday during a protest against the film when Islamists armed with guns, mortars and grenades staged military-style assaults on the Benghazi mission.

Information technology specialist Sean Smith, an Air Force veteran, also died at the consulate, while two other Americans were killed when a squad of security personnel sent from Tripoli to rescue diplomats from a safe house came under mortar attack.

Clinton identified the two as Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty, former Navy SEALS who died trying to protect their colleagues.
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/14/13856452-protests-rage-worldwide-three-reported-killed-outside-us-embassy-in-tunisia?lite

This is some wild stuff. What's going on here is a convergence of two things -- the internet has trolls, and fundamentalist Islam has not changed in 400 years. The latter now has access to the Internet.. cultures clash.. and all hell breaks loose over a youtube video.

What are we going to do here, have a world war over youtube videos? It's perposterous, yet real, this ambassador is dead and the Navy SEAL is dead trying to defend the embassy, and many others are dead. British and German embassies attacked too, German flag lowered and Islamic one raised.

This happened too with that Florida pastor. That was bizarre, some podunk little church in a Florida cracker town causing all that havoc on the other side of the planet.

Very sad, troubling situation. Some Euro governments clamp down on free speech in this area, but America cannot -- this is who we are, freedom to speak and the responsibility to peacefully allow others to speak, without free speech we aren't Americans.

[bochen280]

This is either

1) Mossad plot

2) CIA blowback

3) Natural course of peak oil and demand destruction weakening the fabric of society in third world nations

4) TPTB making sure the Mayans were right and planning WWIII DEC 21 2012

5) Precursor to Internet control, false flag cyber warfare, martial law, full police state in the US.

[davep]

3) Devout people influenced by crazies.

It was released a few months back.

[ritter]

Thanks for posting about this, Six. I've been hearing about it and just can't seem to buy the "it's the video" logic. I can't believe anyone would be willing to risk losing their life by violently protesting a video on the internet. I feel like the media's trying to feed me some bullshit. But why?

[Plantagenet]

Some Moslems are protesting the video. Other Moslems are using the video as cover for attacks on the US. The attack in Libya was on the 11th anniversary of 9/11. Al Quaida has a presence in Libya, and the leader of Al Qaida had called for revenge for a well-known Libyan jihadi who was recently killed by a drone attack in Afpak.

So 400 well-armed Libyans attacked the consulate in Benghazi on 9/11---. The 30 Libyan guards melted away before the attack began. The attack went on for FIVE HOURS but basically no help came from the local Libyan government authorities. The Americans withdrew to a "safe house" that was supposedly secret but the attackers knew all about it. They came under attack from mortars that were zeroed in on the safe house----. The relief group that finally rescued the US folks was flown in from Tripoli.

There are reports that the US was warned in advance about the attack but nothing was done. Obama even skipped his intel briefing (Hey, it was the anniversary 9/11----who would ever expect an attack?).

Sure----some Moslems are protesting the video. But some other Moslems used the video protests as cover for a terrorist attack on a US consulate in Libya.

[bochen280]

Some Moslems are protesting the video. Other Moslems are using the video as cover for attacks on the US. The attack in Libya was on the 11th anniversary of 9/11. Al Quaida has a presence in Libya, and the leader of Al Qaida had called for revenge for a well-known Libyan jihadi who was recently killed by a drone attack in Afpak.

So 400 well-armed Libyans attacked the consulate in Benghazi on 9/11---. The 30 Libyan guards melted away before the attack began. The attack went on for FIVE HOURS but basically no help came from the local Libyan government authorities. The Americans withdrew to a "safe house" that was supposedly secret but the attackers knew all about it. They came under attack from mortars that were zeroed in on the safe house----. The relief group that finally rescued the US folks was flown in from Tripoli.

There are reports that the US was warned in advance about the attack but nothing was done. Obama even skipped his intel briefing (Hey, it was the anniversary 9/11----who would ever expect an attack?).

Sure----some Moslems are protesting the video. But some other Moslems used the video protests as cover for a terrorist attack on a US consulate in Libya.

There won't be a NWO, shit is falling apart too fast.

[Arthur75]

Impressive that Reuters mixes up Algeria and Tunisia on this map ...

[SeaGypsy]

Anyone seen it? It's called : 'The Innocence of Muslims'; poorly made insulting parody. One dreads to think what 'the Islamic world' would do over a proper insulting comedy, aka Life of Brian/ Monty Python.Those Cambridge boys obviously thought better of that one and left it alone.

[Pops]

The thing is an Arab "shock jock" was who subtitled it and posted it to his youtube stream - as I understand anyway. Certainly we have enough of that type of our own.

This seems really backward and "Dark Age" to me, not muslims necessarily but organized superstition altogether I can not relate to it at all.

I'd rather believe it is because we're droning their little daughters or because we supported Mubarak/King Abdullah/whomever or maybe because they really liked Gaddafi and wish we'd have stayed out. At least that would mean that they are just coming to grips with exercising their newfound freedom and all our kids that got blown up over there in the name of exporting freedom actually died for good reason.

Too bad the age of enlightenment was cut short.

[bochen280]

The thing is an Arab "shock jock" was who subtitled it and posted it to his youtube stream - as I understand anyway. Certainly we have enough of that type of our own.

This seems really backward and "Dark Age" to me, not muslims necessarily but organized superstition altogether I can not relate to it at all.

I'd rather believe it is because we're droning their little daughters or because we supported Mubarak/King Abdullah/whomever or maybe because they really liked Gaddafi and wish we'd have stayed out. At least that would mean that they are just coming to grips with exercising their newfound freedom and all our kids that got blown up over there in the name of exporting freedom actually died for good reason.

Too bad the age of enlightenment was cut short.

Blowback blows. Did they expect ten countries in the volatile Middle East to overthrow their leaders all at the same time was ever going to work? I'm beginning to see more and more that Peak Oil means there will be no global "NWO"... it is simply untenable.

[SeaGypsy]

Near where I am residing is a major refugee resettlement suburban stretch. Among these is a substantial African and Middle Eastern Muslims. They are intriguing to observe, especially the way the younger women adapt to western culture and fashion. Long, flowing, expensive fabrics worn draped over snug under-dresses, modesty meeting elegance and sexiness in a more appealing fashion than the common prostitute inspired fashion of many young anglos. It seems obvious that women are the dominant players in Muslim adaptation to the west in multicultural societies; beyond fashion also. If the war in Afghanistan can be justified, it is for the rights of women against the tyranny of men. Islam needs youthful, sensible and female leaders. I think that is what is happening in secular societies, in a natural progression from suffrogecy to freedom of expression, women are taking the stand. The men don't necessarily like it. In places where women are still chattellery there is great fear of this internal revolution within Islam.
Men are scared. Scared men do some crazy things.

[bochen280]

Near where I am residing is a major refugee resettlement suburban stretch. Among these is a substantial African and Middle Eastern Muslims. They are intriguing to observe, especially the way the younger women adapt to western culture and fashion. Long, flowing, expensive fabrics worn draped over snug under-dresses, modesty meeting elegance and sexiness in a more appealing fashion than the common prostitute inspired fashion of many young anglos. It seems obvious that women are the dominant players in Muslim adaptation to the west in multicultural societies; beyond fashion also. If the war in Afghanistan can be justified, it is for the rights of women against the tyranny of men. Islam needs youthful, sensible and female leaders. I think that is what is happening in secular societies, in a natural progression from suffrogecy to freedom of expression, women are taking the stand. The men don't necessarily like it. In places where women are still chattellery there is great fear of this internal revolution within Islam.
Men are scared. Scared men do some crazy things.

Right, so it all boils down to the asymmetric nature of sexual reproduction and the gender differences derived thereof. Perhaps you should educate yourself on Darwinist Evolution:
http://www.blackwellpublishing.com/ridl ... tion26.asp

Ain't nothing new under the big ball of hydrogen:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sperm_competition

Peak Oil does not gender issue make.

[SeaGypsy]

A very shallow interpretation. It's about social dynamics as much as physical constraints. There is, believe it or not, still a thing called social evolution, which happens infinitely faster than genetic, and seems to follow technical. It is damned obvious that there is an overload of testosterone present in middle eastern/ north African Islam. The greatest fear within these systems is the usurpation of their power by westernized secular Islam, where women have universal rights/ not being 'defeated' by Christianity.

[bochen280]

A very shallow interpretation. It's about social dynamics as much as physical constraints. There is, believe it or not, still a thing called social evolution, which happens infinitely faster than genetic, and seems to follow technical. It is damned obvious that there is an overload of testosterone present in middle eastern/ north African Islam. The greatest fear within these systems is the usurpation of their power by westernized secular Islam, where women have universal rights/ not being 'defeated' by Christianity.

Perhaps you don't understand that religion is a byproduct of evolution and not the other way around. Peak oil is causing the so called gender struggles, and not vice versa. When push is coming to shove, differences become more pronounced. The so called "social evolution" you are referring to is a direct result of population overshoot and resource depletion. Evolution could not have known about black gold back in the stone ages. Also, equity does not mean equality. Men and women were never meant to be fully equal in every quantitative and qualitative way. Ain't gonna happen, peak oil or not. At least from a biological gender perspective, the water always seeks it's own level...

[SeaGypsy]

My point is that evolution as such doesn't matter much in our lifetime, whereas cultural r/evolution happens all the time and does matter. I agree that peak oil will ultimately make a lot of the culture wars a waste of energy, time and blood; with reversioning of local tribalism in most places, unfortunately mostly along religious lines. The outloook for women's freedoms in the long run is pretty bleak; but so is the rest of humanity's.

[Plantagenet]

Now a report has come out in an Egpytian newspaper that Egyptian intelligence issued a warning on Sept 4th that US embassies would be targeted by a group called Global Jihad for attack on 9/11.

Egyptian intelligence warned on 9/4 that attacks on US embassies were planned for 9/11

I wonder why the US government ignored the warning that US embassies would be attacked on 9/11?

[bochen280]

Now a report has come out in an Egpytian newspaper that Egyptian intelligence issued a warning on Sept 4th that US embassies would be targeted by a group called Global Jihad for attack on 9/11.

Egyptian intelligence warned on 9/4 that attacks on US embassies were planned for 9/11

I wonder why the US government ignored the warning that US embassies would be attacked on 9/11?

WIII

[bochen280]

Now a report has come out in an Egpytian newspaper that Egyptian intelligence issued a warning on Sept 4th that US embassies would be targeted by a group called Global Jihad for attack on 9/11.

Egyptian intelligence warned on 9/4 that attacks on US embassies were planned for 9/11

I wonder why the US government ignored the warning that US embassies would be attacked on 9/11?

WWIII

[Rod_Cloutier]

Can anyone post a link to the Blasphemous video on youtube before its banned forever? (I'd like to watch it to see what all the fuss is about).

Given how widespread this unrest is, this might be an early symptom of next years food problems. (The media never attributes any world issues to food or energy scarcity).

[SeaGypsy]

I gave the title. I think we should draw the line about there, rather than a linky. Sure you can find it.