[Ferretlover]

"Oh, no!" ~Mr Bill:

Bacon shortage worldwide 'unavoidable' UK pig group says
By Cindy Perman, CNBC.com
Might want to get your fill of ham this year, because "a world shortage of pork and bacon next year is now unavoidable," according to an industry trade group.
Blame the drought conditions that blazed through the corn and soybean crop this year. Less feed led to herds declining across the European Union "at a significant rate," according to the National Pig Association in Britain.
And the trend "is being mirrored around the world," according to a release. The announcement was first reported in the Financial Times.
In the second half of next year, the number of slaughtered pigs could fall 10%, doubling the price of European pork, according to the release.
… In U.S. warehouses, pork supply soared to a record last month, rising 31% to 580.8 million pounds at the end of August from a year earlier, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
The surge came as farmers scaled down their herds as feeding the animals became increasingly expensive.
In July, global food prices leaped 10% from the month before, according to the World Bank. Maize and wheat jumped 25% while soybeans rose 17 percent.

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[AdTheNad]

This shit just got real.

[Lore]

Welcome to the reality of climate change. It's not just for the distant future.

[Scottie]

Welcome to the reality of climate change. It's not just for the distant future.

And it has been happening since before any of us was born. You adapted to your surroundings, is it so difficult to think we will all keep right on doing what we have been doing?

[Keith_McClary]

Welcome to the reality of climate change. It's not just for the distant future.

And it has been happening since before any of us was born. You adapted to your surroundings, is it so difficult to think we will all keep right on doing what we have been doing?

Without BACON ???

But seriously, much slower natural climate change in the past has had pretty disastrous effects.

"We" survived, but 90% of us didn't. Now we are (how many?) billions with just-in-time food supply.

[Scottie]

Welcome to the reality of climate change. It's not just for the distant future.

And it has been happening since before any of us was born. You adapted to your surroundings, is it so difficult to think we will all keep right on doing what we have been doing?

Without BACON ???

True. Humankinds ability to adapt to their environment will be critically impacted without bacon.

But seriously, much slower natural climate change in the past has had pretty disastrous effects.

"We" survived, but 90% of us didn't. Now we are (how many?) billions with just-in-time food supply.

A warming world has profited entire countries...Canada and the Scandinavians spring to mind. Their existence today is hardly disastrous. As far as food supply, I would recommend extra bacon, but we all know where that is going!

[AdTheNad]

Are all deniers Shorty? Or do they just read from the same play book?

Not all are, but this one is.

You adapted to your surroundings, is it so difficult to think we will all keep right on doing what we have been doing?

Yes. It is impossible to think we will all keep right on doing what we have been doing unless you are an idiot. The survivors adapted to their surroundings, the question is how many of all, become survivors.

[gandolf]

I would have thought that with all the cops that are being laid off over there at the moment there would have been a glut of pork on the market

[Lore]

Welcome to the reality of climate change. It's not just for the distant future.

And it has been happening since before any of us was born. You adapted to your surroundings, is it so difficult to think we will all keep right on doing what we have been doing?

This is an old meme trotted out over and over again by many of the denialists. It's the pace of change that reduces most living things ability to adapt and we are currently on track to exceed that rate in all of our living history.

[vision-master]

No more bacon for me, bad cholesterol is too high, changed diet and am on meds.....

[AgentR11]

Can't eat bacon, and are on meds for cholesterol?

Drive less. Run and Bike more. Enjoy piles of bacon and have your doc call you, all freaked out, because your cholesterol just fell below the reference range.

[AgentR11]

But yeah, to the main point. Adaptability to changing climate. Yes, we can in fact adapt to a changing climate for quite some time, and likely even to a very large magnitude. Unfortunately, that adaptation will not include $2 packs of bacon, or any other food remaining nice and cheap like we're used to. And that is a much more serious problem that you might want to admit; because we in the West are on the brink of directly outbidding people for food, even if those people are living in functional (if poor) countries.

Its one thing when there is enough to go around, and we simply get to outbid them for the prettiest corn and tomatoes. Completely different ethical problem when we start outbidding them for access to necessary food calories.

[davep]

Can't eat bacon, and are on meds for cholesterol?

Drive less. Run and Bike more. Enjoy piles of bacon and have your doc call you, all freaked out, because your cholesterol just fell below the reference range.

Quite. Cut out the refined carbs and your cholesterol ratios and triglyceride levels will really improve.

[vision-master]

Can't eat bacon, and are on meds for cholesterol? Drive less. Run and Bike more. Enjoy piles of bacon and have your doc call you, all freaked out, because your cholesterol just fell below the reference range.

Sorry agent. exercise ain't cutting it. You gotta know, I was an elite athlete for decades. Diet has helped!

[vision-master]

Quite. Cut out the refined carbs and your cholesterol ratios and triglyceride levels will really improve.

Sorry davep, I don't eat refined carbs, just brown/ wild rice mix.

[basil_hayden]

Clearly we ought to act on this, hoard, and drive the price up further.

There will be the have's and the have not's of nature's candy.

You can tell them apart - stuff slips out of the have's hands more often and more frequent drooling will be seen from the not's.

50 pounds will probably get me through the price spike, unless there's a drought next year too.

I wonder if that place in the Northwest can freeze dry some and sell it in #10 cans?

In the meantime, we can argue if this is peak bacon or not, as the bacon price undulates 'til none can be found. Poof.

Once it's obvious, we can figure out how to grow bacon directly from the sun via hothouses or something.

Maye there's bacon on Titan....

[AgentR11]

I wonder if one can make good bacon from wild hogs. Got plenty of those running around ripping up the ground.

vm: dang, I'd be a sad rightwingnutbar if I couldn't out exercise a few pieces of bacon.

[SilentRunning]

It's impossible for there to be a shortage of bacon. Human beings will innovate and produce new ways to make more bacon by other means. Science and technology will enable us to find pigs that have escaped detection before. Perhaps we will be able to get more bacon by fracking existing pigs, injecting them with enormous pressure and breaking loose additional bacon that was unprofitable before.

One thing is for sure - the bacon supply will forever increase to meet human needs and desires. It simply can not be otherwise..