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Liquid air 'offers energy storage hope'

Unread postby EdwinSm » Tue 02 Oct 2012, 07:52:51

Potentially this is almost as good as batteries IF the plant is correctly located, but it is not yet there. On the positive side this technology has moved out of the lab into the field testing stage.

The Institution of Mechanical Engineers says liquid air can compete with batteries and hydrogen to store excess energy generated from renewables.

IMechE says "wrong-time" electricity generated by wind farms at night can be used to chill air to a cryogenic state at a distant location. When demand increases, the air can be warmed to drive a turbine......

The technology was originally developed by Peter Dearman, a garage inventor in Hertfordshire, to power vehicles. A new firm, Highview Power Storage, was created to transfer Mr Dearman's technology to a system that can store energy to be used on the power grid.

The process, part-funded by the government, has now been trialled for two years at the back of a power station in Slough, Buckinghamshire.....

IMechE says the simplicity and elegance of the Highview process is appealing, especially as it addresses not just the problem of storage but also the separate problem of waste industrial heat.

The process follows a number of stages:

1) "Wrong-time electricity" is used to take in air, remove the CO2 and water vapour (these would freeze otherwise)
2) the remaining air, mostly nitrogen, is chilled to -190C (-310F) and turns to liquid (changing the state of the air from gas to liquid is what stores the energy)
3) the liquid air is held in a giant vacuum flask until it is needed
4) when demand for power rises, the liquid is warmed to ambient temperature. As it vaporizes, it drives a turbine to produce electricity - no combustion is involved

IMechE says this process is only 25% efficient but it is massively improved by co-siting the cryo-generator next to an industrial plant or power station producing low-grade heat that is currently vented and being released into the atmosphere.

The heat can be used to boost the thermal expansion of the liquid air.

More energy is saved by taking the waste cool air when the air has finished chilling, and passing it through three tanks containing gravel.

The chilled gravel stores the coolness until it is needed to restart the air-chilling process.
Highview believes that, produced at scale, their kits could be up to 70% efficient, and IMechE agrees this figure is realistic.

"Batteries can get 80% efficiency so this isn't as good in that respect," explains Dr Fox.....

"What's more, it uses standard industrial components - which reduces commercial risk; it will last for decades and it can be fixed with a spanner." .....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19785689
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Re: Liquid air 'offers energy storage hope'

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Tue 02 Oct 2012, 08:05:13

If it can really get 70% efficiency, that is a lot better than batteries at 80% taking into account the looming rare earth metals shortage, limits to lead supplies.
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Re: Liquid air 'offers energy storage hope'

Unread postby bluesman » Tue 02 Oct 2012, 08:41:49

The article stated 25% efficient. The 70% is if you add in low grade heat energy and not count it in the calculation. Seems like accounting majors are going into engineering!
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Re: Liquid air 'offers energy storage hope'

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Tue 02 Oct 2012, 09:56:38

Hope for fools.
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Re: Liquid air 'offers energy storage hope'

Unread postby Ibon » Tue 02 Oct 2012, 11:49:14

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Re: Liquid air 'offers energy storage hope'

Unread postby Plantagenet » Tue 02 Oct 2012, 15:40:47

EdwinSm wrote:IMechE says this process is only 25% efficient ......."Batteries can get 80% efficiency so this isn't as good in that respect," explains Dr Fox.....


If this process is only 25% efficient then it actually isn't very useful at all. :roll:
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Re: Liquid air 'offers energy storage hope'

Unread postby Fiddlerdave » Sat 06 Oct 2012, 23:38:56

Plantagenet wrote:
EdwinSm wrote:IMechE says this process is only 25% efficient ......."Batteries can get 80% efficiency so this isn't as good in that respect," explains Dr Fox.....


If this process is only 25% efficient then it actually isn't very useful at all. :roll:
This is "fossil fuel thinking".

Given that sunlight is free, the efficiency of its utilization is not a key issue.

The peak generation at peak need is the great match of solar power to our energy needs. The fact that saving this peak power if unneeded doesn't waste ANYTHING.

Currently, coal plants use VERY inefficient schemes to store over-generation, such as pumping water uphill to lakes to be used for peak power generation. The efficiency is TERRIBLE, but the coal power is FREE, since it is power that would have gone to waste..
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