[mmasters]

Maybe government but I can't see much else.

[Palpatine]

Maybe government but I can't see much else.

I didn't realize this was optional.
Compared to what alternative? Short emergency? No emergency?
What are you comparing it too?

Are you asking financially who benefits? These companies seem to be performing well so far during a plateau peak (long emergency) scenario.

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=TSLA

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=SCTY+Basic+Chart&t=1y

I am sure there are quite a few others. I am just tossing out a few examples to give you an idea.

[Plantagenet]

The "long emergency" doesn't benefit anyone.

The whole reason there is a "long emergency" is that people are growing progressively poorer as nations and the eventually the entire global economy go through repeated cycles of crisis and recovery in response to peak oil.

There might be some short-term benefits to oil producing regions, oil traders, etc., but in the long term it doesn't benefit anyone.

[mmasters]

The "long emergency" doesn't benefit anyone.

The whole reason there is a "long emergency" is that people are growing progressively poorer as nations and the eventually the entire global economy go through repeated cycles of crisis and recovery in response to peak oil.

There might be some short-term benefits to oil producing regions, oil traders, etc., but in the long term it doesn't benefit anyone.

That's what I'm thinking too. I'm wondering why they don't engineer some oil crisis to heard the sheep to their problem solving stations. It seems like it's in everyone's best interest.

[Palpatine]

That's what I'm thinking too. I'm wondering why they don't engineer some oil crisis to heard the sheep to their problem solving stations. It seems like it's in everyone's best interest.

Who is "they"? Is there someone behind the curtain pulling the strings and this was all part of some master plan?
Are you about to pull a Savinar on us with a conspiracy theory?

[mmasters]

That's what I'm thinking too. I'm wondering why they don't engineer some oil crisis to heard the sheep to their problem solving stations. It seems like it's in everyone's best interest.

Who is "they"? Is there someone behind the curtain pulling the strings and this was all part of some master plan?
Are you about to pull a Savinar on us with a conspiracy theory?

The powers that be. I don't think they are as all powerful as many give them credit for but I do think groups exist that try to do this sort of thing. I think 911 was an engineered event.

[Palpatine]

The powers that be. I don't think they are as all powerful as many give them credit for but I do think groups exist that try to do this sort of thing. I think 911 was an engineered event.

Are you trolling me now?
It was an engineered event. By a group of crazy muslims.

[mmasters]

The powers that be. I don't think they are as all powerful as many give them credit for but I do think groups exist that try to do this sort of thing. I think 911 was an engineered event.

Are you trolling me now?
It was an engineered event. By a group of crazy muslims.

Taught in a cave with box cutters. I don't buy it.

What about building 7? Wasn't particularly close to the tower's wake, had little structural damage and collapsed like a house of cards

[SeaGypsy]

There is a thread for this:
9-11-redux-pt-3-t62846-480.html

[Palpatine]

Taught in a cave with box cutters. I don't buy it.

What about building 7? Wasn't particularly close to the tower's wake, had little structural damage and collapsed like a house of cards

I guess I was wrong. The crazies are still involved in PO. It's too bad.

I thought with bozos like Matt Savinar gone, PO might be able to rebuild credibility with the mainstream. But it looks like PO is still a magnet for the conspiracy crowd.

[Tanada]

Those who end up on top of the power structure on the local/state/regional/federal/world levels will be those who benefit from the Long Emergency. Those who become the new peasant class and those who lose there grip on power during the transitions of the Long Emergency will not benefit.

TPTB now may remain TPTB afterwards, or they may lose their grip in the transition of the many crisis that make up The Long Emergency. If I were them I would not want to risk it so I would keep BAU going as long as possible using every trick and strategy I could think of because being TPTB is kinda sweet as a lifestyle.

Oh wait, that is exactly what we are seeing played out today. Hmm, does that mean we are in The Long Emergency already???? See Pops excellent analysis
the-plateau-is-the-peak-t68427.html

[mmasters]

Those who end up on top of the power structure on the local/state/regional/federal/world levels will be those who benefit from the Long Emergency. Those who become the new peasant class and those who lose there grip on power during the transitions of the Long Emergency will not benefit.

TPTB now may remain TPTB afterwards, or they may lose their grip in the transition of the many crisis that make up The Long Emergency. If I were them I would not want to risk it so I would keep BAU going as long as possible using every trick and strategy I could think of because being TPTB is kinda sweet as a lifestyle.

Oh wait, that is exactly what we are seeing played out today. Hmm, does that mean we are in The Long Emergency already???? See Pops excellent analysis
the-plateau-is-the-peak-t68427.html

Yeah true, when you got a couple hundred million and are networked into the club not much really can affect your position. Either way it goes they'll maintain their power. If they cared about the middle and lower classes or some kind of more sustainable future for the greater good they'd do something but I doubt they give a shit. There will be oil for the wealthy for many generations to come. I tend to care for my fellow man (somewhat at least) and think an oil crisis would be the best thing for the human race as a whole. There's not enough critical thinkers out there to lead the way in fixing things.

[Palpatine]

Long Emergency Winners and Losers:

Egyptian Army seems to be +1
Muslim Brotherhood seems to be on the down trend.

[ralfy]

I guess I was wrong. The crazies are still involved in PO. It's too bad.

I thought with bozos like Matt Savinar gone, PO might be able to rebuild credibility with the mainstream. But it looks like PO is still a magnet for the conspiracy crowd.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg2 ... world.html

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/05/ ... arket.html