Heineken wrote:Two or three centuries might be closer to what's needed, if everyone suddenly started acting cooperatively and rationally right now and MQ's "to do" list was enacted. Even then we face a cliff..
What is lacking is not sufficient knowledge of the solution, but universal consciousness of the gravity of the problem and the education of the billions who are its victims.
Omnitir wrote:And I agree, we haven’t yet reached sustainability.
MonteQuest wrote:New? Not hardly. You will find it many times in my writings on this site over the last two years.
It means we have been doing it this way for so long and have so much invvested in doing it this way, that it will not soon pass.
Heineken wrote:Two or three decades aren't nearly enough time to achieve this sea change toward sustainability, Omnitir. Two or three centuries might be closer to what's needed
Omnitir wrote:
But here’s the massive flaw that almost everyone makes with future predictions: the rate of change is not linear, it’s exponential.
Omnitir wrote:Heineken wrote:Two or three decades aren't nearly enough time to achieve this sea change toward sustainability, Omnitir. Two or three centuries might be closer to what's needed
I totally accept that and understand that it’s a monumental task, though two or three centuries may be a bit extreme, more realistically I would guess about one full century to achieve what’s needed.
But here’s the massive flaw that almost everyone makes with future predictions: the rate of change is not linear, it’s exponential.
Yes, at todays rate of change it might take a full century or more to achieve the necessary change. But extrapolating the exponentially increasing rate of change into the future, over the next two to three decades we can realistically expect to experience the equivalent amount of change that the entire 20th century enjoyed. At today’s rate of change we can expect the entire 21st century to experience the equivalent of about two hundred centuries of progress.
*** Resistance is futile. We will all be assimilated into the sustainable collective ***
Omnitir wrote:But here’s the massive flaw that almost everyone makes with future predictions: the rate of change is not linear, it’s exponential.
Heineken wrote:We had our chance at "progress." We blew it, and the result is a wrecked, wasted, deathly ill Earth.
People can't put it together again. We will lick our wounds, crawl into a cave, and slowly and painfully die.
Doly wrote: What made the rate of change exponential? Population growth? Energy consumption?
Doly wrote:Omnitir wrote:But here’s the massive flaw that almost everyone makes with future predictions: the rate of change is not linear, it’s exponential.
Past performance doesn't equal future performance, Omnitir. What made the rate of change exponential? Population growth? Well, it looks like that is slowing down and coming to a stable number (which is good). Energy consumption? Uh-oh, then we have a problem, don't we?
Prof. Dr. Claus W. Turtur (University of Applied Sciences Braunschweig-Wolfenbüttel - Germany) writes: Although I verified the practical utilization of free energy in the laboratory, I had to stop my research work completely. This is not very nice, because "Free and Clean Energy" would be important for mankind.
For all who want to see my former results: Please scroll down.
The zero-point oscillations of Quantum Electrodynamics do contain a huge amount of energy, which is known on the one hand from Cosmological measurements and on the other hand from measurements on the well known Casimir-effect.
The question is now, whether mankind can get benefit of this energy, which would be of serious practical importance, because this energy is understood without any connection to visible matter. Thus a conversion of this energy into a usable form of energy will be free from any pollution of our environment by principle.
The following links introduce into a theoretical understanding of this energy and furthermore they demonstrate a successful conversion of this energy into classical mechanical energy, as it was already performed in the Laboratory. Up to now, some knowledge of the fundamental principles of Physics is developed, but the technical maturity of this energy conversion is in far future, because in the experiment done up to now, only 150 NanoWatts of machine power had been gained.
More from source: http://www.ostfalia.de/cms/de/pws/turtur/FundE/English/
KaiserJeep wrote:In case anyone didn't know this, "Zero Point Energy" became a plot device on the Stargate: Atlantis TV show about one year before this thread started. The show's "Zero Point Energy Modules" were glowing crystals about the size of 3lb coffee cans that powered spaceships.
Don't you just hate it when a con artist isn't even original?
What makes this episode different from each of Steorn's previous adventures is that for the first time they are making Orbo-powered products available to the public, to be put to long-term use, tested, and torn apart. Their first products are clunky, impractical and overpriced: the 1200 euros phone charger is to be followed in early 2016 by a 480 euros retro-style non-smart cell phone that never needs charging. Later offerings will include an e-cigarette and a wireless game controller. But the impracticality of this motley collection of devices is beside the point: Steorn wants to get Orbo into as many people's hands as possible, so they won't need the blessing of academic science. People will find out for themselves that Orbo works, and proclaim it over and over on the internet, until the rumble is loud enough that scientists have to take it seriously, and manufacturers want to license it. Then Steorn can leave product development to others, while they focus on lowering the cost and improving the energy density of their core technology. Eventually, Orbo will power every phone, every car, maybe even everything. That seems to be Steorn's hope, anyway.
To pull this off, they just have one final hurdle to prove they can overcome: the law of conservation of energy, one of the most basic building blocks of modern physics.
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