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Attention Grammar Nazi's

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What did you score on the Grammar Quiz?

Poll ended at Tue 13 May 2014, 12:13:50

0-10%
0
No votes
11-20%
0
No votes
21-30%
0
No votes
31-40%
0
No votes
41-50%
0
No votes
51-60%
0
No votes
61-70%
0
No votes
71-80%
0
No votes
81-85%
1
7%
86-90%
4
29%
91-95%
5
36%
96-100%
4
29%
 
Total votes : 14

Attention Grammar Nazi's

Unread postby Tanada » Thu 14 Nov 2013, 12:13:50

If English is thy first language or thou feel confident in thy second language skills take this 16 question grammar quiz and post thy results.

http://m.staples.ca/sbdca/en_CA/cre/pro ... ammarquiz/
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Re: Attention Grammar Nazi's

Unread postby Newfie » Thu 14 Nov 2013, 12:44:26

88%, better than I thought.
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Re: Attention Grammar Nazi's

Unread postby dsula » Thu 14 Nov 2013, 12:48:50

97% correct, and English is not my first language. That was too easy.
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Re: Attention Grammar Nazi's

Unread postby Synapsid » Thu 14 Nov 2013, 13:11:56

Nazis not Nazi's
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Re: Attention Grammar Nazi's

Unread postby dorlomin » Thu 14 Nov 2013, 14:10:54

Synapsid wrote:Nazis not Nazi's
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Re: Attention Grammar Nazi's

Unread postby Beery1 » Thu 14 Nov 2013, 14:21:04

Woo-hoo! 100%. Though I must admit a couple of the later ones were tough. I found out that although I might know the correct grammar, sometimes I get lazy.
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Re: Attention Grammar Nazi's

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Thu 14 Nov 2013, 15:00:39

"Noble thou feelest thyself still, and noble others also feel thee still, though they bear thee a grudge and cast evil looks."
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Re: Attention Grammar Nazi's

Unread postby careinke » Thu 14 Nov 2013, 15:01:44

88%, Didn't think you could use the same answer..... 8O
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Re: Attention Grammar Nazi's

Unread postby dolanbaker » Thu 14 Nov 2013, 18:20:57

97%, OK ;)
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Re: Attention Grammar Nazi's

Unread postby dinopello » Thu 14 Nov 2013, 19:57:01

94%

I don't know some of the rules but go by what sounds correct.
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Re: Attention Grammar Nazi's

Unread postby Newfie » Thu 14 Nov 2013, 20:19:41

“From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.”
― Winston Churchill
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Re: Attention Grammar Nazi's

Unread postby Shaved Monkey » Fri 15 Nov 2013, 00:38:33

97%
I must be edumacated
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Re: Attention Grammar Nazi's

Unread postby Pops » Fri 15 Nov 2013, 08:57:09

97% - pretty surprising!
Like Dino, I have an idea what sounds right but memorizing grammar rules (not to mention math rules) is like trying to breath water; it makes my butt pucker like I'm crawling across a talus slope above a deep canyon or trying to climb a chalkboard.
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Re: Attention Grammar Nazi's

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Sat 16 Nov 2013, 02:59:30

dinopello wrote:94%

I don't know some of the rules but go by what sounds correct.

Monkeys 'understand' rules underlying language musicality
Many of us have mixed feelings when remembering painful lessons in German or Latin grammar in school. Languages feature a large number of complex rules and patterns: using them correctly makes the difference between something which "sounds good", and something which does not. However, cognitive biologists at the University of Vienna have shown that sensitivity to very simple structural and melodic patterns does not require much learning, or even being human: South American squirrel monkeys can do it, too.
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I also got 94%. :oops: Whom would of thunk?
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Re: Attention Grammar Nazi's

Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Sat 16 Nov 2013, 17:11:58

94%. Who and whom always turned my brain inside out, and it seemed as relevant as inkwells to me while growing up. I had also always assumed that e.g. and i.e. were essentially the same thing, so I learned something. :)

Now, given the poll results thus far, I am going to assume there is a lot of selection bias going on for who takes the poll -- or a lot of people are VERY lazy when they write.

Reading the typical internet discussion thread, between spelling and just using the correct word (not a word with a vaguely similar sound and a COMPLETELY different meaning -- don't they correct anyone's English papers in K-12 anymore? Or do they even study formal English?) -- the typical person seems to belong a LOT lower in the scoring than the poll showed. And now it's showing up in a lot of supposed formal journalism in supposed "high quality" papers and magazines. The WSJ comes to mind, where the supposed "editors" can't use the proper words in a title, much less spell them. If a journalist doesn't need to be reasonably well versed in the language she writes in, who does?

It "feels" to me like the same issue as inability for cashiers to make change when the cash register breaks -- basic lack of meaningful K-12 education.

Then again, when over half of people don't believe in a solid science which has been refined for 150 years (i.e. evolution) -- perhaps I expect WAY too much from pre-college schooling.
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Re: Attention Grammar Nazi's

Unread postby Subjectivist » Sat 16 Nov 2013, 20:49:08

You know that statement reminds me of the anecdote from Sam Clemens aka Mark Twain, one day while working for a newspaper he witnessed a reporter being berated by the editor for using "its" when he should have used "it's". In the 1800's editors took their job very seriously anf felt bad grammar made their profession look bad in the eyes of the reading public. Somewhere around 1930 the news profession lost its desire to be accurate above all else and has been declining ever since.
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Re: Attention Grammar Nazi's

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Sun 17 Nov 2013, 02:04:35

Outcast_Searcher wrote:... so I learned something. :)
When I read the explanations I realised that I did know the rules, but had forgotten.
Outcast_Searcher wrote:a lot of selection bias going on for who takes the poll ... -- don't they correct anyone's English papers in K-12 anymore? Or do they even study formal English?).
Perhaps only old fogies care to take the poll.
Outcast_Searcher wrote:The WSJ comes to mind, where the supposed "editors" can't use the proper words in a title, much less spell them. If a journalist doesn't need to be reasonably well versed in the language she writes in, who does?
A Forbes headline had "flare" for "flair", giving it a humorous meaning. I was enough of a Nazi to register for a login so I could comment on it. They actually fixed it.

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