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THE Canada Thread pt 4 (merged)

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Re: THE Canada Thread pt 4 (merged)

Unread postby Revi » Wed 30 Nov 2016, 00:32:01

Trudeau just announced two new pipelines from Alberta. One goes east, the other west. One is to sell oil to the US, the other to Asia. They are desperate to get this stuff "to tidewater".

http://www.wsj.com/articles/canada-issu ... 1480460317
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Re: THE Canada Thread pt 4 (merged)

Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 30 Jan 2017, 14:04:31

The attackers on the Mosque in Canada have been indentified as Moroccon Muslim immigrants to Canada.

Does anyone know why these Muslim immigrants attacked this Mosque? Was it nontraditional in some way or what?

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Re: THE Canada Thread pt 4 (merged)

Unread postby GoghGoner » Tue 11 Apr 2017, 10:55:08

From market bubbles to ponzi schemes, euphoria is not an investment strategy

One of most common lines during market bubbles is that it’s always different this time around, a new paradigm, perhaps. There were no shortage of books written and experts touting peak oil in the mid-2000’s supporting what we know now were unsustainably high oil prices. Foreign companies came piling into Canadian oil sands projects and now they are all leaving, albeit some with a lot less capital than when they arrived.
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Re: THE Canada Thread pt 4 (merged)

Unread postby ROCKMAN » Tue 11 Apr 2017, 11:12:09

"Foreign companies came piling into Canadian oil sands projects and now they are all leaving, albeit some with a lot less capital than when they arrived." But not true for the promoters that sold at to those companies: they all made a sh*t load of money. LOL.

Old oil field saying from the early 1900's boom: How do you make guaranteed money in a new oil play? You ride into town with the first wagon load of whores and the ride out before the first wagon load of production equipment arrives. That strategy has never, not once, failed. Petrohawk sold its Eagle Ford Shale position for $12 BILLION. A position it had invested a few hundred $MILLION in at most. Then they rode out of town leaving the whores and drilling contractors behind to f*ck those investors. LOL.
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Re: THE Canada Thread pt 4 (merged)

Unread postby rockdoc123 » Tue 11 Apr 2017, 11:51:58

The situation with the majors in Canada has happened time and time again. They have left and then returned in one shape or form a couple of times in the past and I suspect it will happen again. Once they see higher prices and the ability to consolidate a bunch of small players then you can bet they will open their wallets once again. At this point if you put yourself in the shoes of a major's CEO his choice is to continue to invest in Alberta where the crude price is discounted and there is a anti-oil and gas provincial and federal government in place who have exacerbated the problems faced with the drop in price or instead take your money and double down in the US where the new gov't is pro-industry. But in four years time who knows what it will look like. Alberta will almost certainly toss the NDP (who won by default) out on their entitled backsides and elect a more pro-industry provincial gov't. On a Federal level it is harder to predict but I suspect everyone is getting a bit fed up with the empty suit in Ottawa. If the sentiment in the US switches and you suddenly have a Democratic gov't that is anti-industry then the impetus is for companies to perhaps move back to Canada.
And something folks forget is that this whole "the majors are leaving Canada" was started by the sale of Conoco Phillips holdings to Cenovus. But where did Conoco Phillips get those assets ...it's an interesting history. Originally all of those assets were owned by Gulf Corporation, one of the original 7 sisters. Gulf was purchased by Chevron back in the eighties and the Canadian piece of Gulf Resources was sold to the Reichman family out of Toronto. Gulf was a fully Canadian company for many years until it was purchased by Conoco Phillips in 2001 and now 15 years later Conoco has decided to sell. Gulf was one of the first companies working in the heavy oil fields with holdings in the Athabasca, Cold Lake, Wabasca areas back in the late sixties/early seventies. And now the assets are in the hands of a company that intends to grow in its oil production. Note that Cenovus was spun out from Encana in 2009 so that Encana could become a pure natural gas company focussed on unconventional and Cenovus would hold their oil assets.
As is normally the case in this industry the assets always end up in the hands of the most appropriate and capable producer.
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