ROCKMAN wrote:Rollin - Speaking of which I just heard yesterday from the head of the Canadian Coast Guard. According to him the control of the NW Passage was solely that of the Canadian gov't.
Alfred Tennyson wrote:We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Polar-class icebreakers USCGC Polar Star (WAGB-10), USCGC Polar Sea (WAGB-11) are heavy icebreakers operated by the United States Coast Guard (USCG). These cutters, specifically designed for open-water icebreaking, have reinforced hulls, special icebreaking bows, and a system that allows rapid shifting of ballast to increase the effectiveness of their icebreaking. The vessels conduct Arctic and Antarctic research and are the primary icebreakers that clear the channel into McMurdo Station for supply ships. All are homeported out of Seattle, Washington.
In addition to the two Polar-class icebreakers, the USCG has a third polar-capable icebreaker, USCGC Healy (WAGB-20).[4]
Both the Polar Star and Polar Sea are near the end of their effective lifetimes, and have spent years moored because they were in need of expensive and unbudgeted upgrades.[5][6][7] In November 2013 four Senators proposed an amendment to the 2014 Defense Appropriations Act authorizing the construction of four new Polar class vessels, at a cost of $850 million each.[8][9][10] The four Senators sponsoring the amendment were Maria Cantwell and Patty Murray, from Washington, and Mark Begich and Lisa Murkowski, from Alaska. According to the Seattle Times the chances that the amendment will survive into the bill, as passed, are slim.
In May 2007, sea trials were completed for the nuclear-powered Russian ice-breaker NS 50 Let Pobedy. The vessel was put into service by Murmansk Shipping Company, which manages all eight Russian state-owned nuclear icebreakers. The keel was originally laid in 1989 by Baltic Works of Leningrad (now St Petersburg), and the ship was launched in 1993 as the NS Ural. This icebreaker was intended to be the sixth and last of the Arktika class, and currently is the world's largest icebreaker.[12]
Canada's most powerful icebreaker, the 120 meters Louis S. St. Laurent of 13 500 tons displacement (dwt), was delivered in 1969. Its original 3 steam turbine/9 generator/ 3 electric motor system developed 27,000*shaft horsepower. A multi-year mid-life refit project (1987-1993) saw the ship get a new bow, and a new propulsion system. The new power plant consist of 5 diesels/ 3 generators/ 3 electric motors giving about the same SHP. On 22 August 1994 CCGS Louis S. St-Laurent and USCGC Polar Sea became the first North American surface vessels to reach the North Pole. The vessel was originally scheduled to be decommissioned in 2000 however a refit extended the decommissioning date to 2017.
Alfred Tennyson wrote:We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
yellowcanoe wrote:Yes, the position of the Canadian Government is that the North West Passage is Canadian territory and anyone planning to travel through it needs Canadian permission. The position of the US government is that the NW passage is an international waterway.
Plantagenet wrote:Hmmmm.......it was just 6 years ago Obama promised that his election would be "the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow, and our planet began to heal." Now US policy seems be to help oil tankers avoid the last bits of the sea ice as they steam through the ice-free Arctic Ocean on their way to export US fracked oil to foreign buyers.
WASHINGTON, Jan 30 (Reuters) - As Arctic ice melts away, opening the way for greater oil development and mining, the White House outlined a plan on Thursday to promote safety and security in the region by building ports, improving forecasts of sea ice, and developing shipping rules. With warmer temperatures leaving Arctic sea passages open for longer periods of the year, billions of barrels of oil could be tapped beyond what is already being produced in the region. A loss of seasonal ice could also allow greater exploitation of precious minerals considered abundant in the Arctic.
Sixstrings wrote:yellowcanoe wrote:Yes, the position of the Canadian Government is that the North West Passage is Canadian territory and anyone planning to travel through it needs Canadian permission. The position of the US government is that the NW passage is an international waterway.
Canadians are going to have to deal with Russians in the arctic, in the future. That's going to be interesting.
As for claiming the northwest passage.. how can they do that, beyond regular extension of national boundaries out to sea? You can't just claim the whole arctic.
If they want to claim it, they're going to need Uncle Sam for muscle. Canada can't hold onto that by itself.
Newfie wrote:The routes through the NW passage are pretty intricate, they pass through narrow channels in Canadian held territory.
Cold wars: why Canada wants to claim the North Pole
On Friday, the Canadian government was expected to submit an application to the UN Commission tasked with evaluating which countries can claim exclusive rights to resources — namely oil and gas — found in waterways far beyond their borders. Instead, however, the country made a surprising pivot: at the insistence of Prime Minister Stephen Harper, they submitted a partial application rather than a full one. That's because, according to The Globe and Mail, Harper wants government scientists to seek additional data that would support a more expansive claim — one that includes the North Pole.
The 18-million-square-mile region, though largely unexplored, is thought to contain around one-third of the world's oil reserves — all of them thus far untapped.
Canada appears to be pushing ahead — and doing so with uncharacteristic aggression. Harper's decision to scrap the proposal assembled by government-funded scientists and push for a bigger chunk of the Arctic wasn't exactly the diplomatic approach some experts were hoping for — and could catalyze discord with Russia and Denmark,
"The North Pole has extreme emotional value; people have an image that's essentially of Santa's workshop," Byers says. "So there's a huge domestic political angle to this, the idea of claiming the North Pole for your country."
http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/9/5191740/canada-russia-fight-over-north-pole-arctic
Russia to boost military presence in Arctic as Canada plots north pole claim
Vladimir Putin tells defence chiefs to build up infrastructure in region that he says is key to Russia's strategic interests
The political temperature in the Arctic rose on Tuesday when Vladimir Putin vowed to step up Russia's military presence in the region in response to a claim by Canada to the north pole.
In typically trenchant style, the Russian president told his defence chiefs to concentrate on building up infrastructure and military units in the Arctic.
His comments were a direct and rapid riposte to Canada, a rival Arctic power. On Monday Canada's foreign minister, John Baird, said his government had asked scientists to work on a submission to the UN arguing that the outer limits of Canada's territory include the north pole, which has yet to be claimed by any country.
"It's often said that the Russians act with their Arctic policy in an aggressive, nationalistic and unilateral way. The same thing can be said about the Canadians," said Andrew Foxall, director of the Russian Studies Centre at the Henry Jackson Society. "Harper has said Canada is an Arctic nation. He frequently goes up into Canada's high Arctic. There are large-scale military exercises there."
http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/9/5191740/canada-russia-fight-over-north-pole-arctic
Also, whatever happened to Canada being a leader on climate change and environmentalism?
clif wrote:Also, whatever happened to Canada being a leader on climate change and environmentalism?
Stephen Harper.
clif wrote:Also, whatever happened to Canada being a leader on climate change and environmentalism?
Stephen Harper.
clif wrote:Also, whatever happened to Canada being a leader on climate change and environmentalism?
Stephen Harper.
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