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News: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine

Unread postby Ferretlover » Thu 17 Apr 2014, 14:29:55

Deja vu???
Jews in the eastern Ukrainian city of Donetsk where pro-Russian militants have taken over government buildings were told they have to "register" with the Ukrainians who are trying to make the city become part of Russia, according to Ukrainian and Israeli media.
Jews emerging from a synagogue say they were handed leaflets that ordered the city's Jews to provide a list of property they own and pay a registration fee "or else have their citizenship revoked, face deportation and see their assets confiscated," reported Ynet News, Israel's largest news website
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/worl ... e/7816951/
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Re: News: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine

Unread postby Subjectivist » Thu 17 Apr 2014, 14:35:22

This kind of thing never ends well. Sometimes nothing happens right away, but once you register a group any future time bad things can happen to them.
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Re: News: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine

Unread postby dorlomin » Thu 17 Apr 2014, 14:38:12

There is nothing to confirm this is official, but any east European ultra nationalist group will have an anti semitic fringe.
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Re: News: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine

Unread postby Plantagenet » Thu 17 Apr 2014, 15:31:30

Ferretlover wrote:Deja vu???
Jews in the eastern Ukrainian city of Donetsk where pro-Russian militants have taken over government buildings were told they have to "register" with the Ukrainians who are trying to make the city become part of Russia, according to Ukrainian and Israeli media.
Jews emerging from a synagogue say they were handed leaflets that ordered the city's Jews to provide a list of property they own and pay a registration fee "or else have their citizenship revoked, face deportation and see their assets confiscated," reported Ynet News, Israel's largest news website
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/worl ... e/7816951/


Russia has a long history of anti-semitism.

The word "pogrom" comes from mass attacks by Russians on Jews.

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Re: News: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine

Unread postby Subjectivist » Thu 17 Apr 2014, 15:45:21

Unfortunately pogroms go back a thousand years in European history.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogroms_of_1096
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Re: News: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine

Unread postby dorlomin » Thu 17 Apr 2014, 17:06:53

Subjectivist wrote:Unfortunately pogroms go back a thousand years in European history.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogroms_of_1096

Christian attacks on Jews started in the 4th century.
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Re: News: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine

Unread postby Plantagenet » Thu 17 Apr 2014, 18:22:26

I don't see how anti-semitic leaflets could've been distributed in a city controlled by pro-Russian gunmen unless the pro-Russian gunmen were told to allow the distribution of the anti-Semitic leaflets.

The city of Donetsk is locked down by the Russian gunmen---the last thing the Russians would've allowed was somebody they didn't know handing out leaflets that they hadn't approved.

AND, the anti-Semitic leaflets were signed by the LEADER of the pro-Russian militia that controls Donetsk.
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Re: News: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine

Unread postby hvacman » Thu 17 Apr 2014, 19:39:53

There appears to be a lot of conflicting online info about this situation - I'm not rushing to judgment about anything until the facts have been more thoroughly vett'ed.
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Re: News: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine

Unread postby Shaved Monkey » Thu 17 Apr 2014, 19:45:06

Lots of talk of the pro west Ukraine faction being neo-Nazis/fascists
This could well be a propaganda exercise to paint the Russians in a similar light.
Get the pro Zionists sympathy and money flowing.

Lots of BS is being liberally spread by both sides.
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Re: News: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine

Unread postby Plantagenet » Thu 17 Apr 2014, 19:53:04

Shaved Monkey wrote:This could well be a propaganda exercise to paint the Russians...


The leaflets were handed out in broad daylight at multiple sites around downtown Donetsk, a town under the control of Russian gunmen.

Do you really imagine the Russian gunmen, who are in control of Donetsk, would've stood by and let mysterious strangers come into town and hand out these leaflets all over downtown without their permission?

The leaflets are signed by the leader of the pro-Russian gunmen in control of Donetsk, and must've distributed by his gunmen and others under his command.

This was a stupid act on the part of the pro-Russian forces who control Donetsk.
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Re: News: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Thu 17 Apr 2014, 20:20:03

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Re: News: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine

Unread postby dissident » Thu 17 Apr 2014, 20:44:48



End of thread.

It's not so funny how people in the west always fall for such cheesy false flag BS. People in eastern Ukraine had relatives dying fighting the Nazis. At the same time much of the NATO backed western Ukraine was allied with the Nazis and the UPA perpetrated some of the worst atrocities of the war:

http://vognebroda.net/lvovskiy-pogrom-k ... sionalizma

http://www.volhyniamassacre.eu/history/ ... NAME=print
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Re: News: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine

Unread postby dorlomin » Fri 18 Apr 2014, 05:28:09

dissident wrote:


End of thread.

It's not so funny how people in the west always fall for such cheesy false flag BS.
Again dissident shows he is nothing but a grovelling bootlicker to the Russian fascists. He lies and claims the matter is settled rather than still open and in dispute.

I said at the start no one could be sure who was issuing these flyers. Only a liar would claim certainty in the matter.

Ironic to see someone living in comfort in the west braying Putin propoganda from the safety of free countries. :lol:
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Re: News: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine

Unread postby dorlomin » Fri 18 Apr 2014, 05:34:10

dissident wrote:
Keith_McClary wrote: People in eastern Ukraine had relatives dying fighting the Nazis. At the same time much of the NATO backed western Ukraine was allied with the Nazis

You forgot the entire of Russia was allied with the Nazis and collaberated with their invasion of Poland, then they themselves went on a little jolly of their own invading the Baltic states and Finland. They only turned to fighting the Nazis after their allies, the Nazis, invaded them.

It is a bit rich of histories biggest proNazi collaborates to try to rewrite history.

A nation with a long long history of jew murder for sport.

Russian Jews fear anti-Semitism amid Crimea fervour
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Re: News: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine

Unread postby Shaved Monkey » Fri 18 Apr 2014, 08:57:04

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Re: News: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Fri 18 Apr 2014, 12:19:07

dorlomin wrote:
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Keith_McClary wrote: People in eastern Ukraine had relatives dying fighting the Nazis. At the same time much of the NATO backed western Ukraine was allied with the Nazis
You got your quotes mixed up there.
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Re: News: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Fri 18 Apr 2014, 12:59:17

dorlomin wrote:I said at the start no one could be sure who was issuing these flyers. Only a liar would claim certainty in the matter.
"Reports of Jews being forced to register by pro-Russian forces in Eastern Ukraine are chilling, outrageous and must be universally condemned," Ben Rhodes, the White House's deputy national security adviser for strategic communications, wrote in a tweet.

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry also addressed reports of the flyers during a press conference in Geneva on Thursday.

"Just in the last couple of days, notices were sent to Jews in one city indicating that they had to identify themselves as Jews ... or suffer the consequences," Kerry told reporters. "This is not just intolerable, it's grotesque."
http://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine- ... ter-2014-4
They don't know either, but that doesn't stop them from spreading rumours. This is like the Kuwait baby incubators. Can't you smell the BS?
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Re: News: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Fri 18 Apr 2014, 13:21:43

Shaved Monkey wrote:Get the pro Zionists sympathy and money flowing.

They are already busy:
http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/1.577114
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Re: News: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine

Unread postby Plantagenet » Fri 18 Apr 2014, 13:34:48

If the anti-Semitic material that was handed out by the pro-Russian militia in Donetsk was faked, then how did the evil Ukrainians do it?

Did they use their top secret Ukrainian invisibility cloaks to sneak the fliers into town past the Russian gunmen who control Donetsk? :roll: Did they use mind-control to take over the minds of the Russian gunmen stationed downtown to make them hand out the fliers? :lol:

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You there...pro-Russian gunman wearing a bag over your head and a Russian military uniform with all the insignias taken off...take these anti-semitic fliers and hand them out. I will give you many zlotys in payment.
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Re: News: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Fri 18 Apr 2014, 15:26:58

Plantagenet wrote:Did they use their top secret Ukrainian invisibility cloaks to sneak the fliers into town past the Russian gunmen who control Donetsk? :roll:
Donetsk population 1 million.
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