tmazanec1 wrote:Pretend that, in 2020, the United States gets 100% of its gasoline from American shale oil. Yes, I know that has implications and implausibilities galore, I'm just trying to get a hypothetical "perfect case" for fracking...like a vet saying "First, assume a spherical dog..."
How much would a gallon of gasoline cost, assuming no inflation?
tmazanec1 wrote:Pretend that, in 2020, the United States gets 100% of its gasoline from American shale oil.....How much would a gallon of gasoline cost, assuming no inflation?
I don't doubt any of that. I did get that half million figure off the web and it was for wells a mile deep in Texas. Just shows that you cant believe everything you see on the web.ROCKMAN wrote:"...and at about a half million a pop a lot of money". Unfortunately you're not even in the same universe. The typical current completed Eagle Ford Shale well is running $5 million to $10 million and that doesn't include the land cost. But, more important, how much it cost to drill any oil well has no bearing on that we sell the oil for. Refiners buy our oil and they neither know nor care what we spent. Never have...never will. I've sold oil/NG for both more and less then it cost to get it out the ground. Oil/NG is priced by the market dynamics at the time it's being produced. Consider the recent shale gas play in East Texas. An operator puts his $6 million well on production and sells for $12/mcf. Two years later the NG market crumbles and he's selling NG from the same well for $5/mcf. And no: very few operators can afford cutting a well back to wait for higher prices. The cash flow, even at a reduced rate that means he'll never recover the total investment, is typically the priority and the profit margin isn't.
It's the anticipated price that oil/NG will be sold for that determines what gets drilled and thus how much of those commodities ultimately reach the market. Think about it: when you fill your car up in Michigan do you pay me my cost + profit for oil from my well in Texas or do you pay the max price for gasoline they can charge in Detroit?
Pops wrote:I think that's right, vt.
But when it is cracked it is still light factions it doesn't chemically mix - I don't think. My point is that from a profit standpoint, it is worth more as a diluent, even with the cost of freighting it north, than as a feedstock in its own right because the refineries have switched to preferring heavy and x-heavy. I linked a story where the refiners were complaining that drillers were mixing so much condensate into the "regular" crude oil stream (to get an "oil" price from the condensate) that the refiners were getting jipped.
I think Rock actually dug up a plan to separate (boil) it (LTO) off once the tar gets to the gulf refineries and ship the LTO back north again?
Pops wrote:But if it takes more heat and pressure to turn the factions with lower energy content into those with higher content you aren't gaining anything. Well you are gaining the preferred form of liquid but not gaining energy. I'm guessing tho.
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